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So police have called off the search for the little boy missing since 1991, after finding a item of his, they are now convinced that he died in 1991 in a farming accident. I don't understand why th… Read More
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8m, 1w agoPosted 8 months, 1 week ago
So police have called off the search for the little boy missing since 1991, after finding a item of his, they are now convinced that he died in 1991 in a farming accident.

I don't understand why they have stopped after finding a personal item, as I said in my title if the British police wont continue I hope someone does a kickstarter, he deserves to be found and laid to rest properly.
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1 Like #1
You could do one?
4 Likes #2
Im pretty sure the police are exhausting all avenues, the problem is the guy who was doing to work on the digger, is now dead, so they dont know all the locations the work was happening...

Im not sure how exactly a kickstart could help?

I suppose a kickstarter could maybe be used to fund the organisation of a voluntary group to do some digging etc, but then it would pretty much mess up any potential crime scene, and also the current land owners might not be keen on letting groups of people look for something that might not be there.

Alternatively the kickstarter would be to fund further police work, but thats a slippery path to start on.

This is a terrible situation for the family, and my sympathy goes out to them. i could never imagine what its like, i can only think it must be the most terrible thing to happen to a parent.
3 Likes #3
Although not within the existing objectives of the fund, if excess monies are currently available, it would be nice if the terms of Madeleine's Fund could be expanded to provide targeted help to families who have faced similar long-term heartache.
banned 12 Likes #4
Poor woman has never stopped looking for her son. Take every penny back from the McCanns to help her, after all.....they know where Maddie is.
4 Likes #5
Saturn
Although not within the existing objectives of the fund, if excess monies are currently available, it would be nice if the terms of Madeleine's Fund could be expanded to provide targeted help to families who have faced similar long-term heartache.

Yes, this exactly! but we know that will never happen, as its a profit making exercise and not a charity.
#6
miikeyblue
You could do one?

I cant do that sort of thing but someone should, its not really closer is it, contrary to what I think some on here may think I am actually religious and I really do think he needs to be laid to rest properly.

If we can dig up bones from thousands of years ago and drag an old king out of a car park we should find a little boy whos had a tiny fraction of the money spent on him as has been spent on the mccann case.
#7
haritori
Im pretty sure the police are exhausting all avenues, the problem is the guy who was doing to work on the digger, is now dead, so they dont know all the locations the work was happening...

Im not sure how exactly a kickstart could help?

I suppose a kickstarter could maybe be used to fund the organisation of a voluntary group to do some digging etc, but then it would pretty much mess up any potential crime scene, and also the current land owners might not be keen on letting groups of people look for something that might not be there.

Alternatively the kickstarter would be to fund further police work, but thats a slippery path to start on.

This is a terrible situation for the family, and my sympathy goes out to them. i could never imagine what its like, i can only think it must be the most terrible thing to happen to a parent.


Ground radar, I'm sure they'd know what sites that man worked on, they could be surveyed for anomalies and checked.
#8
Error440
haritori
Im pretty sure the police are exhausting all avenues, the problem is the guy who was doing to work on the digger, is now dead, so they dont know all the locations the work was happening...
Im not sure how exactly a kickstart could help?
I suppose a kickstarter could maybe be used to fund the organisation of a voluntary group to do some digging etc, but then it would pretty much mess up any potential crime scene, and also the current land owners might not be keen on letting groups of people look for something that might not be there.
Alternatively the kickstarter would be to fund further police work, but thats a slippery path to start on.
This is a terrible situation for the family, and my sympathy goes out to them. i could never imagine what its like, i can only think it must be the most terrible thing to happen to a parent.
Ground radar, I'm sure they'd know what sites that man worked on, they could be surveyed for anomalies and checked.

I think one of the problems was that this is farm land, and there are bones dating back hundreds of years throughout/everywhere on the site. So looking for bones via ground radar didn't help. They would all need to be examined to check if human.

Edited By: Firefly1 on Oct 17, 2016 14:28
1 Like #9
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
#10
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.

The facebook reports say a personal item, I assume a necklace or something of that nature.
banned#11
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
#12
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.
banned#13
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.

I hope so but it is very unlikely.
1 Like #14
I read it was a toy & found some distance from the farmhouse so the assumption is he carried it around & toddled over to where the construction work was going on while Grandpa was distracted/snoozing.
could be nothing...could be everything, he's there somewhere & was never abducted in my opinion
Error440
The facebook reports say a personal item, I assume a necklace or something of that nature.
#15
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.
I hope so but it is very unlikely.
For the police to be convinced its Ben's and for them to be convinced he died there AND for them to show the family the evidence, it must be something very compelling.
RIP
2 Likes #16
Really sad thing to happen and for the family forever not having peace

Horrible to say but this sort of thing for most people will say its a waste of money, but if was to happen to us we would be the same and spend every penny you had to find the truth
banned#17
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.
I hope so but it is very unlikely.
For the police to be convinced its Ben's and for them to be convinced he died there AND for them to show the family the evidence, it must be something very compelling.
RIP

They aren't convinced about anything from the articles I have read.
#18
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.
I hope so but it is very unlikely.
For the police to be convinced its Ben's and for them to be convinced he died there AND for them to show the family the evidence, it must be something very compelling.
RIP
They aren't convinced about anything from the articles I have read.
I've only heard it on the radio today and they were saying they were convinced. Time will tell hopefully
banned#19
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.
I hope so but it is very unlikely.
For the police to be convinced its Ben's and for them to be convinced he died there AND for them to show the family the evidence, it must be something very compelling.
RIP
They aren't convinced about anything from the articles I have read.
I've only heard it on the radio today and they were saying they were convinced. Time will tell hopefully

I think it's more of a case they believe that to be the case. Here is a qoute from the Police DI..

"It is my professional belief that Ben Needham died as a result of an accident near to the farmhouse in Iraklis where he was last seen playing," said South Yorkshire Police Detective Inspector Jon Cousins.''

Hopefully the family will have some closure from this investigation, it seems to have provided substantial evidence with this item being found and with the witness coming forward that a farming accident was indeed the case.
#20
If it could provide an outcome I would back it as I'm sure most people would too. Good idea if it would work.
banned#21
MrScotchBonnet
Poor woman has never stopped looking for her son. Take every penny back from the McCanns to help her, after all.....they know where Maddie is.

Just to clarify. Does that statement mean you believe they were involved in her "disappearance"?

Just interested because I have my doubts about stuff but dont know enough about any recent updates.
banned#22
Error440
after finding a item of his, they are now convinced that he died in 1991 in a farming accident.

I hope they are not convinced about a farming "accident". Anyone can say anything on their deathbed to ease the guilt they are suffering from perhaps murdering a child.

Edited By: YouDontWantToKnow on Oct 17, 2016 17:20
#23
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.
I hope so but it is very unlikely.
For the police to be convinced its Ben's and for them to be convinced he died there AND for them to show the family the evidence, it must be something very compelling.
RIP
it's most likely a toy he was playing with, car or perhaps a digger etc and he just wanted to get close to a real one poor kid
1 Like #24
dataload
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
MrScotchBonnet
stuarthanley
Perhaps they've found his skull or something. The police and the family are obviously convinced it's something of his.
''police had recovered an item believed to have been in Ben's possession when he disappeared.''
Is what the news is currently saying. Until the police or family release more information, there is little point jumping the gun and starting thus fund and that fund for him.
For all we know, they may have recovered more than they're admitting at this stage.
I hope so but it is very unlikely.
For the police to be convinced its Ben's and for them to be convinced he died there AND for them to show the family the evidence, it must be something very compelling.
RIP
it's most likely a toy he was playing with, car or perhaps a digger etc and he just wanted to get close to a real one poor kid


Doesnt make sense to me if its just a toy unless it has evidence with it, kids leave toys, bottles, shoes etc everywhere. I lost tonnes of toys as a child.
#25
My husband was a forensic archaeologist . It's nowhere near as simple as you may think it should be . Firstly this is toddler so any bones will be small and fragile . It is an area of farming and building so there is fair chance any bones will have been subsequently disturbed . Digging a grave would be stupid if there were existing building trenches to dispose of a body in and so ground penetrating radar would be useless . I'm sure the authorities have covered every base and investigated everything they could . I think it is unlikely there will ever be closure on this
#26
Kerry has confirmed the item found does belong to her son.

Police discovered where Dino was dumping rubbish half a mile away and the toy car belonging to Ben was found on the rubbish dump site. This is the evidence that makes them believe he was killed accidentally by the digger and his body moved and buried elsewhere.

This is, I believe the first time that Kerry has stated that Ben is dead.


So terribly cruel that for a quarter of a century she and her family have held on to hope that he was abducted and that one day they might be reunited with him.





Edited By: Mark2111 on Oct 18, 2016 00:45
#28
how are the local ppl reacting to this news? not seen anything about that on the news

how could he not say anything for all those years
banned#29
Cant see why the police believe it was an accident. Could have been murder, sexual attack on a child, anything.
banned#30
YouDontWantToKnow
Cant see why the police believe it was an accident. Could have been murder, sexual attack on a child, anything.

You old cynic you ;)
banned#31
miles136
how are the local ppl reacting to this news? not seen anything about that on the news

how could he not say anything for all those years

If I killed someone and didn't want to be caught I would probably not tell anyone either. Of course, I wouldn't have it in me but unfortunately some do.
#32
MrScotchBonnet
miles136
how are the local ppl reacting to this news? not seen anything about that on the news
how could he not say anything for all those years
If I killed someone and didn't want to be caught I would probably not tell anyone either. Of course, I wouldn't have it in me but unfortunately some do.


On the basis that it was an accident it was strange that he didn't call for help or raise the alarm as he child was alone and unsupervised. Why would he be so scared that he would be in trouble? Did he have other things to hide? Should he have been digging there? Was he drinking?

A boy at my school was hit by a car at night, a country lane if I recall. It was a hit and run and the car and driver never found. The boy was found dead at the scene in the morning.


Edited By: Mark2111 on Oct 18, 2016 09:44
#33
Error440
miikeyblue
You could do one?
I cant do that sort of thing but someone should

Why not?
#34
Might come across as a bit cold here... but

I watched the daughter this morning on GMB but I found it very strange how she came across, going on about being angry and very dramatic and overly emotional, yet not a single tear when she was crying, I also found it strange as she would of been 4 when this happened but was gogin on about still not grieving him.

she was huffing and puffing alot and it just seemed very weird.

Sounded like she was really in denial about the whole thing, kept saying the Toy might not of been his they weren't 100% about it, wouldn't you know?

http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2016-10-18/ben-needhams-sister-we-remain-hopeful/

Edited By: haritori on Oct 18, 2016 12:30
#35
The daughter was born after Ben Needham disappeared.

She has grown up in the shadow of her mother and grandparents loss and grief.
#36
MrScotchBonnet
miles136
how are the local ppl reacting to this news? not seen anything about that on the news
how could he not say anything for all those years
If I killed someone and didn't want to be caught I would probably not tell anyone either. Of course, I wouldn't have it in me but unfortunately some do.

Ok... now you've got me wondering... have you killed someone?
banned 1 Like #37
miikeyblue
MrScotchBonnet
miles136
how are the local ppl reacting to this news? not seen anything about that on the news
how could he not say anything for all those years
If I killed someone and didn't want to be caught I would probably not tell anyone either. Of course, I wouldn't have it in me but unfortunately some do.
Ok... now you've got me wondering... have you killed someone?
No, but you almost tricked me in to admitting it.

https://media.giphy.com/media/apd2cozPop3R6/giphy.gif
#38
I still don't think that the discovery of the toy car is conclusive proof that Ben is dead and was killed by the digger driver.

The toy could have been discarded by the child at any time. The digger may have picked up the toy after Ben disappeared.

The police are adamant that this is the final finding though.
#39
Mark2111
I still don't think that the discovery of the toy car is conclusive proof that Ben is dead and was killed by the digger driver.
The toy could have been discarded by the child at any time. The digger may have picked up the toy after Ben disappeared.
The police are adamant that this is the final finding though.
Cheaper that way.

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