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The Sun has officially endorsed the Conservatories. Read More
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[mod] 7y, 6m agoPosted 7 years, 6 months ago
The Sun has officially endorsed the Conservatories.
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#1
yes, free speech etc my only concern is that 90% of the population are too stupid to cut through the chaff and actually form their own well informed opinion.
[mod]#2
ants97
yes, free speech etc my only concern is that 90% of the population are too stupid to cut through the chaff and actually form their own well informed opinion.


Exactly my reason for this thread!! They should be made to provide readers with bullet points of parties claimed aims...in the SIMPLEST form that readers can understand..
#3
Well with the current 2 party system you might as well flip a coin anyway.
#4
magicjay1986
Exactly my reason for this thread!! They should be made to provide readers with bullet points of parties claimed aims...in the SIMPLEST form that readers can understand..


How do you suggest you "make" them? More draconian legislation?
#5
well for the last two elections they endorsed labour
#6
The Mirror is for Labour normally...

With this internet, who buys a newspaper anyway..
#7
why shouldnt they, they all have been doin it for years, most of them have a political stance anyway and its fairly obvious
#8
F+F will love this thread tomoz,it's right up his alley:whistling:
[mod]#9
alternate
How do you suggest you "make" them? More draconian legislation?


Legislation isnt brought about through boredom. It is brought about when needed.

Allow them to form opinions but stop them from officially endorsing parties.

The Sun could write something libellous and people believe it until The Sun/Mirror etc are made to apologise. They are a media weather machine...they can cause storms, calmness etc. They shouldnt be allowed to cause a storm whenever they want. They base their views on current issues like the "War on Terrorism" (which is back by other countries) and the global state of the economy. Not caused by Labour. Caused by all greedy banks worldwide.

Just doesnt seem right to me.
[mod]#10
deb8z
F+F will love this thread tomoz,it's right up his alley:whistling:


I would rather not know what is up anyones alley, thanks all the same...:-D
#11
magicjay1986
I would rather not know what is up anyones alley, thanks all the same...:-D


AS long as he's not up your alley you'll be fine:thumbsup:
#12
i don't understand how a paper can endorse anyone. do they take a vote from all their workers as to who they're gonna support? or is it just the major shareholder who decides? or the editor? or the board?
[mod]#13
mcnally32
i don't understand how a paper can endorse anyone. do they take a vote from all their workers as to who they're gonna support? or is it just the major shareholder who decides? or the editor? or the board?


I think the editor must take a read of newspapers and they are obviously siding with whoever is supposedly in the "lead". Would they back Conservatories if Labour were in the lead? No way, at all. They would back Labour.
#14
mcnally32
i don't understand how a paper can endorse anyone. do they take a vote from all their workers as to who they're gonna support? or is it just the major shareholder who decides? or the editor? or the board?


In the case of the Sun, it is Rupert Murdoch who is not even a UK citizen and doesn't even have a vote here.

:x
#15
Inactive
In the case of the Sun, it is Rupert Murdoch who is not even a UK citizen and doesn't even have a vote here.

:x


+1, he doesnt even pay tax here :x
#16
Inactive
In the case of the Sun, it is Rupert Murdoch who is not even a UK citizen and doesn't even have a vote here.

:x


Yeah i know all about rupert, can't stand the man. What gets me is "the sun" is backing the tories. Why can't they just be honest and say our owner backs the tories? He also owns fox news in the states and they are staunchly conservitive, even though they claim otherwise.
#17
mcnally32
Yeah i know all about rupert, can't stand the man. What gets me is "the sun" is backing the tories. Why can't they just be honest and say our owner backs the tories? He also owns fox news in the states and they are staunchly conservitive, even though they claim otherwise.


Not forgetting Sky news as well.

Fox News is a joke.

I share your views on Rupert Murdoch.
#18
Been going on for years with certain papers aimed at lesser educated second or third generation unemployed who only vote as their long term ambition / career development of fag and beer buying benefits
#19
As shazzad said this has always happened and is nothing new,
i can remember at school being asked to look at all the tabloid and broadsheet papers and work out what political leaning they had.
unfortunately politics is a subject rarely taught in the home without political bias and schools now seem to avoid the subject, as a result the next generation have little idea what political opinions they are being taught by the papers they read.
#20
magicjay1986
I think the editor must take a read of newspapers and they are obviously siding with whoever is supposedly in the "lead". Would they back Conservatories if Labour were in the lead? No way, at all. They would back Labour.


I'm not sure if they have an opinion on conservatories, although they may consult with CR Smith. They may however back the Conservatives.... :whistling:
#21
The Sun has officially endorsed the Conservatories.
???

http://www.jamescoleglass.co.uk/contents/media/Edwardian%20Conservatories%203.jpg
banned#22
Inactive
In the case of the Sun, it is Rupert Murdoch who is not even a UK citizen and doesn't even have a vote here.

:x


And Murdoch will support whichever party is most likely to cut back the BBC so that we can have more Fox News-esque outlets in this country.

I can't believe people still read newspapers in this day and age. The problem is these people get their news from one biased source and then vote accordingly.

Democracy's a great idea until you realise that most of the people are uninformed and resentful.
#23
o crap FnF has joined the debate....

RUN!!!!!!!!!

(im kiddin!! :p u knowz i messin!)
#24
FilthAndFurry
And Murdoch will support whichever party is most likely to cut back the BBC so that we can have more Fox News-esque outlets in this country.

I can't believe people still read newspapers in this day and age. The problem is these people get their news from one biased source and then vote accordingly.

Democracy's a great idea until you realise that most of the people are uninformed and resentful.


If they were not swayed by newspapers opinions, they'd be swayed by something else, e.g. friends/family views.
#25
magicbeans
o crap FnF has joined the debate....

RUN!!!!!!!!!

(im kiddin!! :p u knowz i messin!)


I'm surprised it took him this long.....
#26
civms47
I'm surprised it took him this long.....


Me too:?
[mod]#27
magicbeans
???

http://www.jamescoleglass.co.uk/contents/media/Edwardian%20Conservatories%203.jpg


Haha!! Stupid iPhone autocorrect!! Plus it was late!!
[mod]#28
civms47
I'm not sure if they have an opinion on conservatories, although they may consult with CR Smith. They may however back the Conservatives.... :whistling:


Haha. I am an idiot. See above...the iPhones fault...
#29
magicjay1986
Haha!! Stupid iPhone autocorrect!! Plus it was late!!


:giggle: i let u off...just this once! :p
[mod]#30
magicbeans
:giggle: i let u off...just this once! :p


..thanks petal :p
#31
thats politics for you, word play, slander and sometimes the truth does come through!
#32
Yeah, I quite agree, that will be it exactly. Murdoch will be onboard with the Tories because the Tories will have promised him to cut back the BBC because he thinks its unfair competition. And in Murdochs world 'unfair competition' translates as 'anything he doesn't personally control'.

A conservative victory in the next general election will be a disaster for the country. I despair that so many people are going to vote for them just because the media doesn't like Gordon Brown and takes every opportunity to paint him in the worst possible light.
#33
Painterz1
Yeah, I quite agree, that will be it exactly. Murdoch will be onboard with the Tories because the Tories will have promised him to cut back the BBC because he thinks its unfair competition. And in Murdochs world 'unfair competition' translates as 'anything he doesn't personally control'.

A conservative victory in the next general election will be a disaster for the country. I despair that so many people are going to vote for them just because the media doesn't like Gordon Brown and takes every opportunity to paint him in the worst possible light.


granted but he hasn't really done much to help his reputation recently, the new childcare laws are a joke, you can't choose as the parent who can look after your children as long as its costs alot to a nursery thats ok
#34
The Sun has always been a Tory paper.

Sometimes it pretends to support a few Labour ideas but always at election time it announces it has had some epiphany and it's conscience tells it conservative is the way to go. :roll:
banned#35
Alfonse
granted but he hasn't really done much to help his reputation recently, the new childcare laws are a joke, you can't choose as the parent who can look after your children as long as its costs alot to a nursery thats ok


I doubt it was he who thought it up and I doubt it is as bad as people are making out.

Nice to focus on that though, and not the praise he received from other world leaders on his handling of the banking crisis.

It's also nice to see this country's standards of perception have remained stoically myopic. With the internet and the vast amounts of information at one's fingertips, it would have been very tempting to expand one's horizons and adopt that painfully fashionable notion of being 'informed'.

I can only hope this fad passes and I congratulate the general population on their avoidance of such ruinous habits.
banned#36
Ungreat
The Sun has always been a Tory paper.

Sometimes it pretends to support a few Labour ideas but always at election time it announces it has had some epiphany and it's conscience tells it conservative is the way to go. :roll:


In the sense that I say both words with the same derisory tone:?
#37
FilthAndFurry
I doubt it was he who thought it up and I doubt it is as bad as people are making out.
.


wrong

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8278533.stm

also the new law requires that if you work in separate buildings not in the same company remit with children in them you need a CRB check for each building :w00t:

The reaction so far has been negative. A spokeswoman for children's charity Kidscape said: "I think there must be people all over the country going, 'What?'" She described this as "bureaucracy gone mad".

His handling of the banking crisis has been awful, the banks should not of ever been lent any money and left to collapse, interest rates are not being passed on to loans or mortgages etc, more money for the banks!

NHS cuts again..well done
#38
Alfonse


His handling of the banking crisis has been awful, the banks should not of ever been lent any money and left to collapse, interest rates are not being passed on to loans or mortgages etc, more money for the banks!



Well for certain, the " suit " George Osborne would have brought the country to it's knees if we had have listened to him.

Allowing the banks to collapse would have been disaster, I don't support what the banks did, but they simply could not be allowed to collapse.
banned#39
Alfonse

His handling of the banking crisis has been awful, the banks should not of ever been lent any money and left to collapse, interest rates are not being passed on to loans or mortgages etc, more money for the banks!

NHS cuts again..well done


I find it terribly hard to care about doomed proposals for childcare so forgive whilst I treat that point with the level of attention it warrants.

But I like your idea of 'letting the banks collapse'.

Despite Universal Studios and MGM studios turning many films into rides, they've not yet got around to a Mad Max ride. Your proposal would actually make the post apocalyptic/armageddon scenario photo-realistic and wholly interactive.

Either that or you've grown tired of the whole 'civilisation' schtick we've been propping up all these years. Granted, I occasionally feel overawed by the choice of food, clothes and shelter that we have and long for the days of starvation and destitute living conditions.

But I think it would have been a tough sell for some of those 'old' and 'sick' people whose fragility and propensity to die really does encroach on our fun.
banned#40
Inactive
Well for certain, the " suit " George Osborne would have brought the country to it's knees if we had have listened to him.

Allowing the banks to collapse would have been disaster, I don't support what the banks did, but they simply could not be allowed to collapse.


Pish and indeed posh.

Think of all the times you've misplaced some money down the sofa, or maybe even been a victim of bank fraud. How annoying...

With Alfonse's suggestion, bank fraud would be COMPLETELY eliminated. You'd never lose any money ever again.

Now granted there is the whole no food, no home adjustment to make, and of course law and order would in all likelihood break down but just think of all the endless fun you'll have foraging for food with your family.

No more sitting in front of the tv for meals - you'll be outside, fighting for scraps which will of course bring down obesity rates and take the strain off of the NHS.

Well, if the NHS still existed it would, but still....

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