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Spanking age: spank your child get 5 years probation.

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banned5y, 7m agoPosted 5 years, 7 months ago
I thought this was still a common practice? Do you spank your child? Should you be allowed to?

This ruling seems extreme to me.

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banned5y, 7m agoPosted 5 years, 7 months ago
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banned#1
http://www.volunteertv.com/mobi?storyid=124072014

Judge has harsh words for Mom before sentencing her for spanking her kid


Updated: 5:53 PM Jun 17, 2011

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (CBS) -- A judge in Corpus Christi, Texas had some harsh words for a mother charged with spanking her own child before sentencing her to probation.

"You don't spank children today," said Judge Jose Longoria. "In the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don't spank children."

Rosalina Gonzales had pleaded guilty to a felony charge of injury to a child for what prosecutors had described as a "pretty simple, straightforward spanking case." They noted she didn't use a belt or leave any bruises, just some red marks.

As part of the plea deal, Gonzales will serve five years probation, during which time she'll have to take parenting classes, follow CPS guidelines, and make a $50 payment to the Children's Advocacy Center.

She was arrested back in December after the child's paternal grandmother noticed red marks on the child's rear end. The grandmother took the girl, who was two years-old at the time, to the hospital to be checked out.

Gonzales who doesn't have custody of the child or her other two children, is trying to get them back, but until CPS feels she is ready the kids are living with their paternal grandmother.


Edited By: DangerGod on Jun 18, 2011 21:18
banned 1 Like #2
Monkey yes, child no
[mod][Moderator] 1 Like #3
whatsThePoint
Monkey yes, child no

abusing your monkey can make you go blind esp if it spits in your eye :p
banned#4
What is the law in Texas?
Without knowing that its pretty hard to know if its extreme or not, it might be common for people to get 5 years in jail for this over there for all we know.
Not sure why you think anyone here will get 5 years probabtion though, its mainly a uk forum.

Edited By: colinsunderland on Jun 18, 2011 21:22
1 Like #5
My girlfriend has me spank her while she calls me Daddy...will I get in trouble?
4 Likes #6
Can't imagine ever deliberately hurting either of my children.

Now, if my wife had the nerve to ever want to go to a night club with her friends then the spanking might have to commence.
banned#7
colinsunderland
What is the law in Texas?
Without knowing that its pretty hard to know if its extreme or not, it might be common for people to get 5 years in jail for this over there for all we know.
Not sure why you think anyone here will get 5 years probabtion though, its mainly a uk forum.


I'm asking if you think it's extreme or not to be punished for giving your child some discipline. I'm well aware it's a u.k forum I gathered that from the web adress.
#8
My kids get a tap on the hand if they cross the line, does that mean i deserve to go to prison?
#9
I thought this was still a common practice?


Did you really?

Do you spank your child?


No.


Should you be allowed to?


Yes, and I am.

OP you do seem to be very uneducated about real world situations.
banned#10
DangerGod
colinsunderland
What is the law in Texas?
Without knowing that its pretty hard to know if its extreme or not, it might be common for people to get 5 years in jail for this over there for all we know.
Not sure why you think anyone here will get 5 years probabtion though, its mainly a uk forum.


I'm asking if you think it's extreme or not to be punished for giving your child some discipline. I'm well aware it's a u.k forum I gathered that from the web adress.


You said you thought the ruling was extreme, as I don't know the law over there how would I know?
As for the uk bit - your thread title reads 'spank your child get 5 years probation' as if thats what will happen if you spank your child, even though we are in the uk and the ruling has nothing to do with the uk.

Personally I think you should be able to smack a child, but theres a big difference between a smack and anything heavier, TBH I think leaving red marks shows they might have been hit too hard.

Edited By: colinsunderland on Jun 18, 2011 21:35
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If i was naughty as a child i got smacked, yes it hurt, but in the same light it taught me a lesson, As i say i got smacked not beaten

Edited By: Toasthduk on Jun 18, 2011 21:35
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thesaint
I thought this was still a common practice?

Did you really?


If you think this is not still common then it seems you are the uneducated one my friend.
#13
i think a tap on the hand is ok for small children to try and teach them right from wrong, not sure about older kids, i remember getting a few smacks when i was a child, running up the stairs and my mum coming after me haha she use to stand me outside with a suitcase and said i was going to a childrens home lol. cruel mummy.
1 Like #14
Spanking yes, battering no.
1 Like #15
DangerGod


If you think this is not still common then it seems you are the uneducated one my friend.


I do not know of a single person who spanks their child.
When I was young, "everyone" got spanked. When you have some life experience, you may be wiser.
#16
8) by a lady in rubber i would pay for a good spanking
banned#17
thesaint
DangerGod


If you think this is not still common then it seems you are the uneducated one my friend.


I do not know of a single person who spanks their child.
When I was young, "everyone" got spanked. When you have some life experience, you may be wiser.


So because you don't know of anyone, it is a rare thing.

Wake up.
#18
Hitting a child is wrong & it's lazy parenting.
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WheresMeNuts
Hitting a child is wrong & it's lazy parenting.

I don't agree, lazy parenting is letting them do what the **** they want and not caring about them.
banned 1 Like #20
WheresMeNuts
Hitting a child is wrong & it's lazy parenting.


Argh I hate myself for agreeing with you.

Shame you don't think the same about women...
banned#21
You don't appreciate a lot of stuff of childhood until you get older. Little things like being spanked every day by a middle aged woman: Stuff you pay good money for in later life
#22
I'll spank anyone that -isses me off.!
#23
ive only ever tapped the back of my sons hand never smacked him, if he was naughty i sat him down and explained to him why he was being told off, i think ive only ever tapped his hand a few times, i just raise my voice these days and he stops if hes naughty,
i know someone whos kids are punished by facing the wall, standing there for hours on end, or sitting on the stairs for hours on end, i mean 12+ hours with no food or drinks, these kids are 9 & 10 now and its been like this since they were very small, its not as if the kids are naughty, one of them might not want toast and then they are sent to face the wall until school and once home they face the wall until bedtime,
and the family who live next door to us now have 2 small girls, the youngest screams from 5am to 7pm every day and the parents dont try to stop her, personally i dont know how they cope with her screaming all the time im next door and i swear shes standing on my stairs somedays shes that loud
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vinylandtrinkets
ive only ever tapped the back of my sons hand never smacked him, if he was naughty i sat him down and explained to him why he was being told off, i think ive only ever tapped his hand a few times, i just raise my voice these days and he stops if hes naughty,
i know someone whos kids are punished by facing the wall, standing there for hours on end, or sitting on the stairs for hours on end, i mean 12+ hours with no food or drinks, these kids are 9 & 10 now and its been like this since they were very small, its not as if the kids are naughty, one of them might not want toast and then they are sent to face the wall until school and once home they face the wall until bedtime,
and the family who live next door to us now have 2 small girls, the youngest screams from 5am to 7pm every day and the parents dont try to stop her, personally i dont know how they cope with her screaming all the time im next door and i swear shes standing on my stairs somedays shes that loud


And what did social services say when you got in touch with them?

Edited By: deek72 on Jun 18, 2011 22:43
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master_chief
WheresMeNuts
Hitting a child is wrong & it's lazy parenting.


Argh I hate myself for agreeing with you.

Shame you don't think the same about women...

Well if you're a fool to let a woman knock you about & not fight back then enjoy your black eye.
#26
Physical punishment for children is a no no for me. All it does is make the child fear the punishment not the actual motive behind whatever they did wrong. Taking away rewards, treats, etc combined with a change in tone should be enough.

Carrot and stick.

If it doesn't work then your child is probably possessed and will end up a crack head by their late teens.

Edited By: dtovey89 on Jun 18, 2011 23:10
3 Likes #27
"Spanking" or "hitting" is perfectly acceptable in my opinion, I got "spanked" occasionally as a child and it never did me any harm. I'm 23 if that matters.

Obviously, moderation is required etc.
banned#28
WheresMeNuts
master_chief
WheresMeNuts
Hitting a child is wrong & it's lazy parenting.


Argh I hate myself for agreeing with you.

Shame you don't think the same about women...

Well if you're a fool to let a woman knock you about & not fight back then enjoy your black eye.


I'm genuinely sorry you have to retaliate against your OH giving you a beating.
banned#29
Current law is you are allowed to smack as long as it doesn't leave a mark.

This scottish website is good, I'm sure the law is the same here

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2003/10/18406/28339

I remember my Mum running into my room with a hand full of implements and saying right which one do you want now? I thank her for increasing my pain thresh hold :) witch!
#30
Smacking is a risky choice of punishment. Those in control do not need to do it and those who have lost control should not do it.

Never understood what smacking teaches apart from if your bigger than somebody you can hurt them if they don't do what you say.
1 Like #31
DangerGod


So because you don't know of anyone, it is a rare thing.

Wake up.


Who said it was rare? Like your thread title, you make things up to suit.

I've been working and volunteering with children for 10 years(inc social services) and been a parent for longer than that.

Come back to me when you've lived a little.
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thesaint
DangerGod


So because you don't know of anyone, it is a rare thing.

Wake up.

Who said it was rare? Like your thread title, you make things up to suit.

I've been working and volunteering with children for 10 years(inc social services) and been a parent for longer than that.

Come back to me when you've lived a little.


if you don't know of anybody who smacks their child now and again, you must be living in some fantasy world. Just walk into town on Saturday afternoon and i'm sure your blinkered view would be totally disproven. It is common place. Not condoning it just letting you know you are wrong.
#33
deek72
vinylandtrinkets
ive only ever tapped the back of my sons hand never smacked him, if he was naughty i sat him down and explained to him why he was being told off, i think ive only ever tapped his hand a few times, i just raise my voice these days and he stops if hes naughty,
i know someone whos kids are punished by facing the wall, standing there for hours on end, or sitting on the stairs for hours on end, i mean 12+ hours with no food or drinks, these kids are 9 & 10 now and its been like this since they were very small, its not as if the kids are naughty, one of them might not want toast and then they are sent to face the wall until school and once home they face the wall until bedtime,
and the family who live next door to us now have 2 small girls, the youngest screams from 5am to 7pm every day and the parents dont try to stop her, personally i dont know how they cope with her screaming all the time im next door and i swear shes standing on my stairs somedays shes that loud


And what did social services say when you got in touch with them?

absolutely nothing! I'd called them and the lady the other side of them called as well, as the mother is a nurse they didnt seem bothered.
banned#34
Smacking is to teach violence is the answer to control situations.

Ergo, smacking is bad.
banned#35
Glad to see the general consensus is smacking's bad!
#36
lumoruk
Current law is you are allowed to smack as long as it doesn't leave a mark.

This scottish website is good, I'm sure the law is the same here

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2003/10/18406/28339

I remember my Mum running into my room with a hand full of implements and saying right which one do you want now? I thank her for increasing my pain thresh hold :) witch!


I remember me being about 10/11 and i answered my mum back, she took a big leather belt to my behind, I also remember her whacking me with a slipper too, yes my mum is a witch too!
banned#37
JonnyTwoToes
Smacking is to teach violence is the answer to control situations.

Ergo, smacking is bad.


It was this classic study we did in psychology at college that changed my view at 16 - http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Bandura/bobo.htm
banned#38
master_chief
JonnyTwoToes
Smacking is to teach violence is the answer to control situations.

Ergo, smacking is bad.


It was this classic study we did in psychology at college that changed my view at 16 - http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Bandura/bobo.htm


Very interesting. Anyone with young kinds should read that.
banned 2 Likes #39
JonnyTwoToes
master_chief
JonnyTwoToes
Smacking is to teach violence is the answer to control situations.

Ergo, smacking is bad.


It was this classic study we did in psychology at college that changed my view at 16 - http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Bandura/bobo.htm


Very interesting. Anyone with young kinds should read that.


I was certain I'd be a smacker when I grew up and had children, having being smacked as a child fairly frequently. It was that study and the fact, at the back of my mind, I knew the most effective punishment I was given as a child was to be sent to bed than get a smack.
#40
vinylandtrinkets
deek72
vinylandtrinkets
ive only ever tapped the back of my sons hand never smacked him, if he was naughty i sat him down and explained to him why he was being told off, i think ive only ever tapped his hand a few times, i just raise my voice these days and he stops if hes naughty,
i know someone whos kids are punished by facing the wall, standing there for hours on end, or sitting on the stairs for hours on end, i mean 12+ hours with no food or drinks, these kids are 9 & 10 now and its been like this since they were very small, its not as if the kids are naughty, one of them might not want toast and then they are sent to face the wall until school and once home they face the wall until bedtime,
and the family who live next door to us now have 2 small girls, the youngest screams from 5am to 7pm every day and the parents dont try to stop her, personally i dont know how they cope with her screaming all the time im next door and i swear shes standing on my stairs somedays shes that loud


And what did social services say when you got in touch with them?

absolutely nothing! I'd called them and the lady the other side of them called as well, as the mother is a nurse they didnt seem bothered.


Really? So what did they say? Seems odd that they're not interested in child abuse.

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