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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
Was travelling on a dual carriage way, doing about 75 MPH when I realised that a white van with the police-like markings on the back, parked up in the layby with a huge black camera lens pointing at the oncoming cars.....Do you reckon this was speed camera or number plate recognition? And if it was a speed camera do you reckon I'll get a ticket for doing 75 MPH??
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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
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#1
75 is an over estimation of the speedometer. Doubt they will issue a ticket for 75mph

Also most likely ANPR camera to stop those without insurance etc.


Edited By: strike on Jan 25, 2011 16:26
#2
Might of been an ANPR van.
#3
You are allowed a 10% margin of error!
#4
strike
75 is an over estimation of the speedometer. Doubt they will issue a ticket for 75mph

It depends what the speed limit on the dual carriageway was.

BFN,

fp.
#5
If the limit is 70 then you will be ok. If the limmit was 60 then if it was a speed camera then you may have some grounds for worry. If it was ANPR camera I hope you have nothing to worry about!
#6
AberdeenDad
If the limit is 70 then you will be ok. If the limmit was 60 then if it was a speed camera then you may have some grounds for worry. If it was ANPR camera I hope you have nothing to worry about!

If it was 30mph or 40mph, expect a fine... if not a ban (& a re-test).

BFN,

fp.
#7
I would say "probably" nothing to worry about "if" the speed limit was 70MPH.
banned 1 Like #8
d-j mitch
You are allowed a 10% margin of error!


no your not
banned 2 Likes #9
deserve what you get if you were speeding and it was a cam to catch you.

break the rules pay the price
#10
d-j mitch
You are allowed a 10% margin of error!


If that's the case, seems silly to set speed limits.... they exist for a reason
#11
Thames vally police allow 10% + 2mph so you would get a fine if you done 80 on 70 road.
#12
If your speedo said you were doing 75, then the true speed would probably have been 70-71 mph.
#13
exmouthred
If your speedo said you were doing 75, then the true speed would probably have been 70-71 mph.

"...doing about 75 MPH..." may mean 80mph though.

BFN,

fp.
banned#14
Broxy
Thames vally police allow 10% + 2mph so you would get a fine if you done 80 on 70 road.


I am afraid. ACPO the guidelines for speed camera enforcement RECOMMEND 10% + 2 but if they so wished they could ping every car at 1mph over quite legally.
#15
Broxy
Thames vally police allow 10% + 2mph so you would get a fine if you done 80 on 70 road.


Its not just Thames valley its all police forces under acpo guidlines

the op would have to be doing 81mph to even stand a chance of getting an FPN
#16
If you get a ticket this place is good for advice.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=idx
#17
dog_cop
Broxy
Thames vally police allow 10% + 2mph so you would get a fine if you done 80 on 70 road.


I am afraid. ACPO the guidelines for speed camera enforcement RECOMMEND 10% + 2 but if they so wished they could ping every car at 1mph over quite legally.


imo it would fall apart in court, the police would need to show good reason for acting against its own guidelines but yes in theory you could get a ticket for going 1mph over as its an absolute offence.

Edited By: stiffnuts on Jan 25, 2011 16:51
#18
d-j mitch
You are allowed a 10% margin of error!


Utter tosh.
banned#19
exmouthred
If your speedo said you were doing 75, then the true speed would probably have been 70-71 mph.

rollox
banned#20
Broxy
If you get a ticket this place is good for advice.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=idx


Advice for what? If you were speeding you pay the ticket ffs.
#21
My speedo is a few mph out. it says 75 and my satnav says 70. Driving into villages with those signs that display your speed usually says 27 or so when I'm doing 30.

Although I suppose you don't know what to believe
banned#22
Speedos can be 10% out so when your doing 70 you could be driving at 77 or 63..

Thats why you won't get flashed if you do say 33 real speed past a 30mph camera or 44 past a 40.

The faster you go the more likely they are off too.
1 Like #23
Jumpingphil
exmouthred
If your speedo said you were doing 75, then the true speed would probably have been 70-71 mph.
How do you work that out?

Isn't it illegal for cars to under-read the speed, so manufacturers tend to make them over-read. The faster you're going, the more error reflected in the speedo. My car says I'm doing 75 when my sat-nav reads 72.
#24
stiffnuts
Broxy
Thames vally police allow 10% + 2mph so you would get a fine if you done 80 on 70 road.


Its not just Thames valley its all police forces under acpo guidlines

the op would have to be doing 81mph to even stand a chance of getting an FPN


Speed camera's that are above the motorway on signs, are only activated at speeds over 80mph
2 Likes #25
dont know....but i wish police vans would look out for middle lane hoggers as well.....!
#26
i got a speeding ticket for doing 55 in a 50 zone. 3 points and £60 fine. this was on a motorway with no speed limit signs in sight. mobile unit too
#27
This thread should be subtitled beware of old wives tales, some cracking replies from people who obviously haven't a clue what htey are on about but 'read it somewhere'
#28
exmouthred
If your speedo said you were doing 75, then the true speed would probably have been 70-71 mph.

Jumpingphil
How do you work that out?


Speedometer regulations state that it can be 10% over (+ another 6.25mph), but not a penny under. [/brucey]

(See The Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2001, Schedule 3, Section 10)

So if OP reckons they were going 75, their actual speed was between 75 and 61.25mph.

Also given that you're allowed 10% over everywhere, plus the local force's discretionary allowance (2 or 3mph in South Yorkshire, obviously 0mph in vinylandtrickey's area above), I could potentially drive at 94.75mph according to my speedo, and still be "within the law"

94.75mph minus 10% (speedo max differential [8.85mph]) = 85.9mph
minus 6.25mph (other variable in speedo allowance) = 79.65mph
minus 3mph (discretionary) = 76.65mph
minus 10% (speed camera allowance [7mph]) = 69.65mph

I often take more notice of my TomTom's speed readout than my car speedo.


Edited By: adambaz on Jan 25, 2011 18:42: meh
#29
Did you notice any other police vehicles parked further up the road if so it will have been an anpr but they dont usually put them on dual carriage ways so I am 99 % sure it will have been a speed trap unfortunatly and yes if you were doing 75 on your speedo you will get a ticket . Dual carriage ways are 60 if you wer doing around 69 you could escape but 75 definatly not, if you dont hear anything after 2 weeks your safe but with vans if you have been done it will be a lot sooner anyway.
#30
Hopefully you will get a ticket
#31
dc7911
Did you notice any other police vehicles parked further up the road if so it will have been an anpr but they dont usually put them on dual carriage ways so I am 99 % sure it will have been a speed trap unfortunatly and yes if you were doing 75 on your speedo you will get a ticket . Dual carriage ways are 60 if you wer doing around 69 you could escape but 75 definatly not, if you dont hear anything after 2 weeks your safe but with vans if you have been done it will be a lot sooner anyway.


The speed limit on a dual carriageway is 70mph.
#32
whatsThePoint
dc7911
Did you notice any other police vehicles parked further up the road if so it will have been an anpr but they dont usually put them on dual carriage ways so I am 99 % sure it will have been a speed trap unfortunatly and yes if you were doing 75 on your speedo you will get a ticket . Dual carriage ways are 60 if you wer doing around 69 you could escape but 75 definatly not, if you dont hear anything after 2 weeks your safe but with vans if you have been done it will be a lot sooner anyway.


Unless there were signs saying 60 the speed on a duel carriage way is 70


Or signs saying 50, 40 or 30.... ;):D
#33
I got done for going 33 mph in a 30 limit.
#34
tell them you were getting late to propose some one,so hopefully they won't mind

Edited By: addjon on Jan 25, 2011 19:11: .
#35
Sorry I stand corrected I was thinking single carriage, disregard my comment, 75 you will be fine m8 dont worry about it.
#36
addjon
tell them you were getting late to purpose some one,so hopefully they won't mind


oO was that supposed to mean propose ?
#37
You'd be amazed how far out a speedometer on a vehicle is compared to a more accurate gps speedo (TomTom etc)
#38
My Dad was pulled over at the weekend for speeding 51 in a 30, the policeman asked him why he was rushing, he had just bought fresh warm beigals from Brick Lane, the policeman said he hadn't had them in years...proceeded to ask my Dad what he was going to put in them and then sent him on his way to enjoy them!! What a nice man, of course my Dad won't do it again, and he did offer to give the policeman a couple, but he said he couldn't take bribes!!

OP I think you'll be fine at that speed ;)
#39
Go straight to prison, do not pass go, do not collect £200.
banned#40
Jumpingphil
adambaz

Speedometer regulations state that it can be 10% over (+ another 6.25mph), but not a penny under. [/brucey]


Well I never knew that, I was always lead to believe it could be a small percentage out either way.
You learn something new every day.

They don't test this on the MOT though, do they?
How do you know your speedo is still accurate once it leaves the factory?

that 10% +6.25 mph has nothing to do with speeding. Its for speedometer approval by the looks of the link. Otherwise there would be millions of people caught doing 35-39mph in a 30mph limit asking for their fines back!


Edited By: csiman on Jan 26, 2011 09:03: fd

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