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Speeding awareness..

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6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
I got flashed on a stationary camera last night.. it was a fair kop, was stupidly chatting and not paying attention to the accellerometer, about 38 or so in a 40, at about 9:30pm

It was my first offence, and Avon and Somerset offer a discressionary speed awareness course (rather than 10%+6 or whatever it is).

if they do offer it does it come with the offence notification?
does it cost extra? i know the cost of the A+S course is £60, but does that replace the fine or is that on top of the £60 fine (so 120 in total)?

as i am still within my 2 year initial probation i dont really want the points, so if offered i will take it.

cheers guys
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6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
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#1
about 38 or so in a 40? huh?

And no you dont pay the fine I believe, it is in replacement of.
#2
38 or so in a 40 zone is below the speed limit?
#3
about 38 or so in a 40

what have you done wrong?? lol

I got caught speeding, and was offered this. It was £60 and go on the course (half day long), or £60 and 3 points. Can't imagine anyone would take the points over the course.

Was pretty good to be fair. Lots of tea, biscuits and banter.
#4
I've just had one from Avon and Somerset and there was no offer of a course with it. Just pay 60 quid and take 3 points or go to court and maybe get a fine of £1000 and 6 points !
suspended#5
Hope they offer the course in my area, you know, just in case :whistling:
#6
My mum was flashed by a camera the other week, doing 35 in a 30.
She got offered of the course + £60 and took that instead of the fine

She has to go in a week or so for the 4 hr thing! What does it involve?
#7
sorry in a 30 not a 40!

the Avon and Somerset one is a 60 fine and 2 hour course.
does the offer come with the letter does anyone know?
#8
Jetpac;8193876
sorry in a 30 not a 40!

the Avon and Somerset one is a 60 fine and 2 hour course.
does the offer come with the letter does anyone know?


After you return the signed S172 response identifying yourself as the driver, they'll either offer you the speed awareness course, CoFP or for more severe speeds nothing as it will go to a summons.

John
#9
krazykel
What does it involve?


You get a book to complete, drink tea, talk about your reasons for speeding, drink tea, watch some gruesome anti-speeding adverts, drink tea, do a quiz, drink tea, answer your quiz, then go home.

I had alot of fun actually! And found out that I didn't know the dual carriageway speed limits, so had been going 20mph too slow for the last 10 years! :thumbsup:
#10
Johnmcl7
After you return the signed S172 response identifying yourself as the driver, they'll either offer you the speed awareness course, CoFP or for more severe speeds nothing as it will go to a summons.

John


Does that mean if you fill the form in (with your credit card info etc) they might give you the points but offer you the course ?
#11
steve1221;8194456
Does that mean if you fill the form in (with your credit card info etc) they might give you the points but offer you the course ?


It depends exactly what you're filling in - the standard process should be that a Notice of Intended Prosecution(NIP)/Section 172 (S172) request is sent to the registered keeper to name the driver. Once the form is filled in and returned, the decision is then made depending on the offence to either offer a speed awareness course, Conditional offer of Fixed Penalty (CoFP) or take it to court. There's no obligation for them to offer a speed awareness course and the requirements vary across different areas, generally if you're not offered the course you can't get it.

However some areas have combined NIP/S172/COFP so that rather than just admit to being the driver, you also accept the CoFP. If you're filling in payment information then I assume it's a CoFP which means no course.

John
#12
milesy29
You get a book to complete, drink tea, talk about your reasons for speeding, drink tea, watch some gruesome anti-speeding adverts, drink tea, do a quiz, drink tea, answer your quiz, then go home.

I had alot of fun actually! And found out that I didn't know the dual carriageway speed limits, so had been going 20mph too slow for the last 10 years! :thumbsup:


So you saved a lot on petrol:w00t:
what did you think of all the other speeders doing 70;-)
#13
Johnmcl7
It depends exactly what you're filling in - the standard process should be that a Notice of Intended Prosecution(NIP)/Section 172 (S172) request is sent to the registered keeper to name the driver. Once the form is filled in and returned, the decision is then made depending on the offence to either offer a speed awareness course, Conditional offer of Fixed Penalty (CoFP) or take it to court. There's no obligation for them to offer a speed awareness course and the requirements vary across different areas, generally if you're not offered the course you can't get it.

However some areas have combined NIP/S172/COFP so that rather than just admit to being the driver, you also accept the CoFP. If you're filling in payment information then I assume it's a CoFP which means no course.

John



Thanks John,

This might help Jetpac too then. Avon and Somerset only send out a 2 page form.
page 1 is for saying you were the driver or not and if you have any mitigating circumstances.

Page 2 is for, yes I was the driver, here's my credit card info for the fixed fine.

As they've told me that they don't accept any mitigating circumstances the only option you have is to pay the fine and take the points...
#14
steve1221
Thanks John,

This might help Jetpac too then. Avon and Somerset only send out a 2 page form.
page 1 is for saying you were the driver or not and if you have any mitigating circumstances.

Page 2 is for, yes I was the driver, here's my credit card info for the fixed fine.

As they've told me that they don't accept any mitigating circumstances the only option you have is to pay the fine and take the points...


Whether you get offered the speed awareness course depends on local policy. In Thames Valley, it used to be up to 36 in a 30 area. 37 or over and you got the fine and points. It may have changed and Avon may, of course, have a different policy.
#15
meshosa
So you saved a lot on petrol:w00t:
what did you think of all the other speeders doing 70;-)


haha - yeah! thought bloody holligans! :-D

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