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banned8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
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Male
17 Years Old
Around 6 foot 4
Weighing around 23 stone (last time i checked. More than likely more)
BMI of around 40

Obviously, I need to lose a hell of a lot of weight

I have tried and failed, I just cant stick to it!

My diet currently consists of regular things like pizza, curry, spaghetti bologneise, pastries etc but it is rare i eat anything truly 'healthy'

I dont drink alcohol but fizzy drinks I couldnt live without

I snack out on both sweet and savoury foods a lot - chocolate is probably the worst thing, dont eat many crisps.

I dont exercise a whole lot, I walk around 2 miles a day and thats it.

I need some help - I dont want to lose weight, I want to change who I am and how I see things

Can anyone help?
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banned8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
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#1
Its not an easy task you have ahead of you and I don't think people can really help you, it seems it is down to you and your mentality. Weigh up your options, think to yourself WHY you want to change and how this change will affect your life.Will it affect your career, your relationships, your well being?

If you decide it will greatly benefit you in life then this is all you need to help you through it. Just think about the new life you may create.
#2
Hi
My sister is about the same weight but only 5'. She tried everything but couldn't sustain weight loss. She then got hypnotised and is loosing weight. She always leaves food on the plate (part of the conditioning) and no longer eats chocolate. My son lost 3st after christmas. he set a rule not to eat after 8pm and no rubbish. He is now trim, muscular (does gym & weights) and goes running.

Try leaving something on the plate, then there is not the need to finnish everything i.e. even when full, you may clear the plate out of habit and then don't eat after 8pm. Best of luck:thumbsup:
1 Like #3
You have so many things in your favour - the main one is your age.

At 24 stone and 6'4 I wouldn't say you have a "hell of a lot of weight" to lose really but I'm sure you'd be happier and more comfortable with less baggage. Two miles of walking a day seems pretty fantastic to me. Keep doing that. I'd say forget about joining a gym for now and remember that with your excess weight every mile you walk will burn more calories than a lighter person walking the same distance.

Fizzy drinks are a very fast way to get a LOT of calories into your system without really noticing and they can make you feel very up and down because of the way your body deals with the sugar. If you're drinking the diet versions then there can be different problems with those. If it's the fizz you like then you could try what worked for me - switching to fizzy water. It will probably be VERY weird and "wrong" at first and then you might just forget about it and just do it naturally. Maybe you could start off by switching to fizzy water on every other drink?

Overall it's going to be a lifestyle change. I believe hypnosis is the simplest way to do it - two people I can think of that have products you can buy that could help are Paul McKenna and a Trevor Silvester. Paul McKenna has a book and CD that you can get from Amazon etc. Trevor Silvester has an MP3 download you can get from the Quest Institute - Google will find it. With either of those, all you need to do is listen to the audio once a day and notice the changes. Be as skeptical as you like - it'll have an effect anyway as long as you commit to listening regularly. The only willpower you need is that commitment until your changes are automatic and you are getting slimmer - nothing else.

I wish you well.
#5
Its easy, consume less calories than you expel and you will loose weight. After all physics is physics!
#6
Best to have an early lunch and early dinner
so have lunch at like 11am and dinner at about 6.30pm
but dont eat bread as that fattens you right up

I was like 9st 3 and starting having sandwiches this week for lunch and dinner and im now like 10st 1 plus its easter
#7
I'd recommend joining, or at least browsing some weight loss communities online. People there are more willing and able to offer you advice and support, plus you can log your weight, measurements, BMI, food etc - it really helps me to follow my progress in that way (I like graphs and charts!!).

My two favourites are:

http://www.extrapounds.com
http://caloriecount.about.com
#8
Hi
It might sound extreme,but I suggest a juice fast. The week before starting slowly cut out tea,coffee,fizzy drinks,processed food etc,so that you will end up eating fresh fruit,salad,veg etc. Try and also drink a lot of water. Tap if you live in Scotland ;) If not,buy a Brita water filter. Then start off by juicing carrots. If you have never tried freshly juiced carrots you will be blown away by how good it tastes (if you like carrots :whistling: ) Drink lots of water,herbal teas,no milk or sugar,and carrot juice. Also try juicing apples,oranges,grapes,celery etc. anything and everything! Type fasting in to google,loads of good info. If you are still stuck or need any help,just PM me. Last year I did a 47 day water/juice fast and I lost 58 pounds. I am also male 6'4''. You won't need to do that long,but a one week fast,water or juice or both is very easily attainable. If in doubt,ask your Doctor although he might be against it,just get checked over,blood pressure,blood & urine samples to see if it would be ok. As long as you are not diabetic or taking any medication it will be very very GOOD for you :)
#9
drink more water, by filling yourself with more water you will eat less. from your list of foods id say try to cut out the pizza and pasta 1st as i think that would be easier for you than getting rid of things you know are gonna be impossible like choc. altho them things are only impossible at the moment and eventually you will cut down
#10
my advice m8 is simple if you really want to lose wight you will give up all those stuff thats bad for you, i was the same living on cans of coke and so called fast food, but when my son was born i decided to go on a diet for him and for me ive been doing it now for 2 months (lost 2 stone so far) yes ill admit i did try the tablet route etc, but it really dont help that much, now all i do is drink more water eat more healthy (allowing the odd treat) excersise wise i just walk the dog and take a few trips round battersea park, but i had tried diets b4 and failed (i think you have to hit that low point - then you no deep down its what you want and will succed)
banned#11
When I finished my first year at uni I was 21 stone, I worked at it big time in the summer holidays, I cut out coke (my biggest downfall!) cut out ALL junk food and ate Salads everyday. I also went to the gym and just did weights to tone and excerise bike, In the 3 months between 1st and 2nd year I went down to 14.5 stone and levelled out at 15 (I'm 6 foot 2 and broad (rugby player)) so I looked right. It wasn't until I started eating junk all day that I started to put it back on 2 years later.....

However it can be done....everything is better......no more trying on clothes first, much stronger, fitter and I had a ridicuolous amount of energy.....

You can do it you just have to stick to it, but the benefits far outweigh the negatives....

and if like me, you will get laid more than you could ever imagine....


That was my reason for maintaining the healthy lifestyle:thumbsup:


You can do it, just stick to it!
#12
Good Luck themaniac123 - you have made the first step by wanting loose the weight, there is only you that can do it. :thumbsup:

Keep us updated on yur progress.

Eat less, exercise more and it will happen. :thumbsup:
#13
Here is some advice I was given a while back and it seems to make sense.

Right, firstly, and most importantly, is DIET. Food is energy. Fat is stored energy. If you eat more food than you need, it'll be stored as fat. Simple.

We measure food energy in Calories. A balanced diet requires Protein, Carbohydrates, and Fats. Protein builds and keeps muscle, carbs are your basic energy, and fats are a necessity for joints, your brain, etc. The problem is most people's diets are high in carbs and fats, but not protein.

As a general rule, you should aim for 1 gram per day of carbs and protein per pound of bodyweight. So if you weigh 180lbs, that's 180g carbs and 180g protein. If you eat healthy foods, you don't have to count the fat content as it should be suitable down. However, if you eat real healthy, fatty acids will be too low and you'll have to supplement with a couple of pieces of fish a week or my favourite, a small handful of nuts before bed (ahem!). Not Salted Peanuts, proper nuts!

Right, so at 180lb a day, your diet will be roughly:

180g Protein
180g Carbs
40-50g Fats

That's around 1800-1900 calories a day:

1g Protein = 4 cals
1g Carbs = 4 cals
1g Fat = 9 cals

Now to be real healthy, you want to eat 5 or 6 meals a day. Why? It raises your metabolism. Most diets don't work as people starve themselves. When you go hungry, your body goes in to Starvation Mode and that's real bad. You actually burn off MUSCLE before fat, as you don't need muscle to survive.

So eat more often, your metabolic rate rises, and you actually burn off fat by doing no exercise!! It's great.

If you're just after a sensible diet to get healthy and lose a bit of lard, you should front-load the carbs. That is, more carbs in the morning, less in the evening. If you don't burn carbs off, they get stored as fat, so avoid carbs a couple of hours before you go to bed. If you sleep at 10pm, no carbs later than 7pm.

It's difficult to get the 6 meals balanced through the day. This is what I'd suggest for a simple way to stick pretty close to it.

Divide the daily carbs total by 4. You'll have 1/2 your carbs at breakfast, and the other half split between lunch and dinner.

Divide protein by 6, and spread that through the day.

So with a 180lb man, you'll have something like this:

Breakfast
Carbs 90g
Protein 30g

Snack (mid morning)
Carbs 0g
Protein 30g

Lunch
Carbs 45g
Protein 30g

Snack (mid afternoon)
Carbs 0g
Protein 30g

Evening Meal
Carbs 45g
Protein 30g

Before Bed
Carbs 0g
Protein 30g


That would be ideal.

To put that in to context, 30g of protein is about 1 chicken breast. So 6 of them a day, or get some protein shakes - nice, and cheaper. However, mix with water to avoid the carbs and fat in milk. Only have with milk if you're trying to gain muscle.

You can work out your own diet around that. Avoid sugars and such foods. Regardless of what you hear, you don't want lots of potatoes, pasta and bread. 2 slices of good quality Granary bread (the best) contains 30g of carbs, so a sandwich with a HUGE slab of chicken in it and lots and lots of salad could be your evening meal. For breakfast, how about 5 pieces of wheetabix and a pint of semi skimmed milk? Pretty healthy, good fibre, and that gets your carb intake to around 90g.

Don't forget to scale up or down according to your own weight, and remember as your weight drops, your food intake has to drop. If you lose more than 1kg a week, you're losing muscle, so increase total calories by 100 each day.

Weight loss is scientific. You DO need to count calories, measure your foods, and weigh yourself. I bet if you worked out your current diet, you'd be under 100g of protein a day, and probably 250 to 300g of carbs, maybe a load of fat as well. Protein is the most important thing you can eat. Think of it like this - in our body, protein is what makes and maintains the LIVING cells. The fat on a body is just dead.
#14
Find and interest in food and cooking, slowly learning a new recipe every week and introducing yourself to balanced meals and build that up. Making your own pizzas and burger etc, little by little gradually working towards a routine you built yourself and are comfortable with.
banned#15
I agree with what 'the-jackal' has said :thumbsup:

I followed the south beach diet which is very similar to what has been posted, high protein, low fat, low sugary carbs and it does work, i lost 12lbs and as the weather warms up i will be doing it again as i can't eat salad in the winter :oops:

I was having 2 grilled sausages, 2 grilled bacon, 2 scrambled eggs, 2 tinned tomatoes for breakfast and i suddenly had tonnes of energy for the day and i had to force myself to eat lunch as i wasn't hungry but then that made me eat less for dinner :-D

Good luck with whatever route you choose
#16
I also found these a great way of getting support and ideas for meals for whatever diet you try.

http://www.fatsecret.com/

Good luck
#17
Wishing you all the good luck in the world ... your on your way .................... keep us informed
#18
i would suggest that a lot of the fat in your diet comes from processed foods. if you still want to eat pizzas and burgers, make them yourself.

Pizza
get a pizza base recipie off the net. mix some dough and rollout flat.
tomato sauce - fry some chopped onion with some chopped garlic, fry until goind brown and add a tin of chopped tomatoes. fry until starting to thicken and then add some basil leaves and pepper. let it cool and then spread on top of your base. throw on a few chopped mushrooms, peppers, (whatever you want), then lightly sprinkle some cheese over the top. tastes miles better than shop bought stuff, miles cheaper and is not packed with preservatives/additives/fat etc

Burgers
mush up some lean mince with some softened onions, garlic, herbs and breadcrumbs. fashion into patties (a bit bigger than you want the finished burger, as it will shrink a bit) and plonk into a dry frying pan on a low heat. DO NOT ADD ANY OIL as the fat in the burger will seep out and oil the pan for you. toast a bun (make the bread yourself if you are feeling adventurous) and fill with lettuce, tomato and raw red onion. top with the burger and eat. yummy.

Chips
leave the skin on the potato and chop into wedges. spray them with the spray oil you can buy and stick into a hot oven for 40 mins or so, turning every 10 minutes until they're golden.

Ice cream
try frozen yoghurt instead

Chocolate
replace your milk chocolate with dark chocolate, the higher the cocoa content the better (the hight the content, the more bitter the taste. will stop you eating as much)

Spag Bol
brown off some lean mince (without using any oil) and put to one side.
fry off and onion with some garlic, add passata and a tin of tomatoes, chopped peppers/mushrooms, add a dash of worcestershire sauce, dessertspoon of HP sauce and a dessertspoon of tomato ketchup (sounds strange, but it works), add a drained tin of tomatoes. add the meat and simmer or an hour. lovely.

also, grill your food instead of frying it (use grilled chicken for your curries) and replace the cream in your curry with natural or greek yoghurt
#19
good luck maniac. i am a serial dieter.. but right now ive had enough of slimming owrld / weight watchers.. these r great diets but after u get off them its hard to get them on. saying that i DO recommend them,,,,am i making sense?!

anyways with ur BMI..go to docs and tel him u r trying ti lose weight and they give u Xenical... it helps block the amount of fat ur system can absorb..so if u eat a lot of **** u will know and u will experience the rather nasty consequences..so u kinda stay on the straight and narrow... i combine that with going to the gym and im doing ok.... neeed to pull socks up a lil.

somoene mentioned hypnosis.... do the pau mckenna diet/lifestyle change.. the bok is cheaper than hypnosis and its the same principles and does work..defo!!!

bottom line combine xenical and healthy eating. but see ur GP cos in some places u can get free gym membership as well!!!
banned#20
faiza1
good luck maniac. i am a serial dieter.. but right now ive had enough of slimming owrld / weight watchers.. these r great diets but after u get off them its hard to get them on. saying that i DO recommend them,,,,am i making sense?!

anyways with ur BMI..go to docs and tel him u r trying ti lose weight and they give u Xenical... it helps block the amount of fat ur system can absorb..so if u eat a lot of **** u will know and u will experience the rather nasty consequences..so u kinda stay on the straight and narrow... i combine that with going to the gym and im doing ok.... neeed to pull socks up a lil.

somoene mentioned hypnosis.... do the pau mckenna diet/lifestyle change.. the bok is cheaper than hypnosis and its the same principles and does work..defo!!!

bottom line combine xenical and healthy eating. but see ur GP cos in some places u can get free gym membership as well!!!




Actually I would stay away from that stuff....did nothing for me except ruin a lot of clothes and leave oily fart juice all over the place!

I did it without!
#21
Firstly 2 miles walking a day is a great excersise! Maybe you could just try and speed up your walking to make it more cardiovascular.

I also confess to being a fizzy drink addict!!! I don't drink tea, only have a very occasional coffee and don't smoke so I feel I'm allowed one vice! I don't like the taste of diet colas put have found that Pepsi Max is lovely! So that's my hit every day.

I am also trying hard to lose weight (7 weeks til my hols and I'd love to lose half a stone). I don't own scales aso I am going to rely on how my clothes feel. We all know we have to cut out the c**p (biscuits, crisps and cheese are my downfalls) but it isn't easy! I'm trying to snack on fruit but it just isn't the same as a chocolate chip cookie!!! lol.

Forgot to say that I probably need to lose 4 stone but am taking it a little at a time! So half a stone for my hols would be good!
#22
ODB_69
Actually I would stay away from that stuff....did nothing for me except ruin a lot of clothes and leave oily fart juice all over the place!

I did it without!


haha..... so funny everyone seems to have done this... but to avoid that u eat more sensibly..well i found that... give it a go at least i reckon.. u pay all those taxes... might as wellget something back!:-D
1 Like #23
dandoc2;1805942

I was like 9st 3 and starting having sandwiches this week for lunch and dinner and im now like 10st 1 plus its easter


Youve put on 12 pounds in a week? WTF are you eating in those sandwiches? LARD?
#24
I use eDiets which although you have to pay for is great, there are several diets to choose from so you are more likely to find one to suit you and they give you a meal plan to follow with all the recipes so you know exactly what to eat and how to make it, you can change between plans whenever you want, you weigh in every week and they chart you success. There is also a support forum where you can chat to other dieters to get tips and motivation from them or you can contact your diet mentor if that fails, there are lots of success stories to also help motivate you.

Good luck and remember to be healthy you need to eat healthily and drink lots of water.

:thumbsup:
#25
I do slimming world, my friend does as well, i have seen people lose 5/6stone in a yr, it will drop off really quickly, there is nothing you cant eat but its about controlling how much you eat and allows you to eat lots of the good stuff and limit the bad, fizzy is ok as long as its diet you can drink that to your hearts content.

I would say give it a go because if you dont lose weight in the first 4 wks then they give you your money back, most of all the groups are good fun and great laugh and you meet lots of good friends.
#26
loveabargain
Firstly 2 miles walking a day is a great excersise! Maybe you could just try and speed up your walking to make it more cardiovascular.


defo...stick some tunes on ur ipod that get u motivated and burn those calories.... :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
#27
Titchimp
Youve put on 12 pounds in a week? WTF are you eating in those sandwiches? LARD?


lol, it would never happen to a PS3 owner...

OP- my top tip is join a gym with loads of attractive women in it, I did that a year ago and talk about motivation, I dropped the stone I wanted to lose in three weeks!
#28
im going to have a pizza tonight
i use to do alot of training
still do a bit not as much
the high protien diet is the best diet
but if you try and cut out everything
you will fail
even when i was training hard
every sunday id get myself a medium pizza from dominos with pepperoni and beef
people who dont treat themselves to this stuff are evil and will go to hell so dont worry
#29
ps the thing with the pretty girls also works if your going to do exersize
you never want to do **** infront of girls anyway
real good looking ones give you get the strength of 10 men
#30
lol, just back from the gym half hour ago, there was a gorgeous girl on the treadmill next to me, when I looked at my computer stats on the way out i'd lifted twice what I normally do!
I have a motivaional blog that only I can see, I update it most nights and list what I have to do- work wise and exercise. If I have to go on and post that i've done nothing, it motivates me more for the next day. I can also look back and see what long term targets i've hit over the last month, which makes me feel great when I have done them. I reckon since starting the blog I hit about 90% of my targets, the last 10% gets carried over and I hit it the next week- before the blog I prob did about 10% of what I need/want to do.

I got the idea from http://12weekphysique.blogspot.com/ that blog shows you whats possible, and its interesting to see how he tried to get fit before and failed- look what he did in the first 12 weeks with daily exercise and eating right, theres no tablets or other stuff involved, just the desire to get fit. Mind you, he got far too much into it in the end, his life is all about looking perfect now, but he seems happier than before- fair play.
banned 1 Like #31
thanks for the support guys, i've been on a diet since monday and I feel great, i dotnt think I could have done it without the support

The Jackals advice has been a god send mainly but everyones contribution has helped - I have stuck to carbs in the morning and progressed onto protein throughout the day and its awesome - i dont feel the urge to eatas much and its awesome!

I have given up the fixxy pop for still flavoured water, :)

[I] weighed 23st exactly on Monday; will keep the thread updated
#32
Well done themaniac123, keep up the good work and I'm sure it will only get easier as your new helthy eating becomes more of a routine for you and automatic.

Well Done! :thumbsup:
#33
themaniac123
thanks for the support guys, i've been on a diet since monday and I feel great, i dotnt think I could have done it without the support

The Jackals advice has been a god send mainly but everyones contribution has helped - I have stuck to carbs in the morning and progressed onto protein throughout the day and its awesome - i dont feel the urge to eatas much and its awesome!

I have given up the fixxy pop for still flavoured water, :)

[I] weighed 23st exactly on Monday; will keep the thread updated


Well done!!! I have also 'been good' since Monday! Lets do this together. I don't have any special diet plan except for cutting out all the junk. So no biscuits, crisps, chocolate, sweets etc. Having fruit and low cal cereal bars instead. I also feel very possitive at the mo. It helps that my oh is also joining me in the diet.


Couldn't give up the Pepsi Max though :oops: :thumbsup:

Right off to have my cereal and banana now!
#34
Whats the latest guys. I have been shedding the pounds as well. Preety much followed what I put with some running and cycling and Badminton 5 times a week for 30 minutes. I have lost a stone and this week is the first week I have not lost any weight. Saying that though I did have a Bar B Q this weekend and sunk about 10 cans of Strongbow. :oops:

I plan to lose 3 lbs this week so will have to work a bit harder. I feel fitter, my trousers fit better and I can now run 3 miles. :thumbsup:

I was 14 stone and now I am 13 stone 1lb so 13lbs lost (not a stone) :whistling:

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