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The state of UK education is getting worse!

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5y, 6m agoPosted 5 years, 6 months ago
First of all, this is by no means an attack on students but the state of the education system of the UK, so good luck to all taking exams at this time!

The state of this country's education is a mess. Years of dumbing down, the UK has now slipped from in the top 10 of the world education rankings to the high 20's (out of 65 countries).

If that wasn't shocking enough, a pupil from the high school told me yesterday that the headmaster has made it COMPULSORY to resit every exam, even the ones who got A results, to bump up the figures (as they can swat up on the questions that they struggled with in the first exam). This is, in my opinion, borderline cheating.

I honestly believe if this was to carry on and if the people in charge don't take their heads out of the sand, stop sitting on denial and make some big changes we, as a nation, will be left behind as a third world country...
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5y, 6m agoPosted 5 years, 6 months ago
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banned#1
Years of dumbing down, the UK has now slipped from the in the top 10 of the world education rankings to the high 20's (out of 65 countries).

That is dumbing down - there were loads more countries in my day. :|
#2
I am shaking my fist at my LCD screen in outrage.
banned#3
Let's face it, our country is rubbish.
#4
what you mean education getting worse? we gone up from 10 to 20 pff
#5
it might be because of all the RE lessons?
banned 1 Like #6
master_chief
Let's face it, our country is rubbish.


On the bright side, they'll be more jobs around for the older generation as the plebs leaving schools today won't be getting them.
banned#7
it is a sad state to be in but i think alcohol plays a part in this as well,lots of people to busy binge drinking and focusing less on exams, careers etc.
banned#8
r4ge
it might be because of all the RE lessons?

We've always had RE lessons though otherwise I'd have blamed them too. Maybe it's the lack of RE being taught now?
#9
wat u tawkin bout we iz vell clever bruv X)

to be honest its true, universities tend not to teach certain subject areas as they say its "too difficult" or takeds p too much time to explain it to the students. i personally blame the government due to their "targets". Teaching along with medical care is made up too much beaurocratic crap that they have litel time to spend on the student/patient.

I spend atleast 3 hours per week on my students and I dont even teach them, i only supervise.

All grammar and spelling mistakes are intentional and have been left in to highlight the crappy state of the british educational system. :D
banned#10
I think those of us around the age of 30 represent the last great generation this country will produce.
[mod][Moderator]#11
10 posts in and no ****, smut, double entendre, what is hukd coming to oO
#12
Rupz
wat u tawkin bout we iz vell clever bruv X)

to be honest its true, universities tend not to teach certain subject areas as they say its "too difficult" or takeds p too much time to explain it to the students. i personally blame the government due to their "targets". Teaching along with medical care is made up too much beaurocratic crap that they have litel time to spend on the student/patient.

I spend atleast 3 hours per week on my students and I dont even teach them, i only supervise.

All grammar and spelling mistakes are intentional and have been left in to highlight the crappy state of the british educational system. :D


reported!
banned#13
wishihadadonkey
10 posts in and no ****, smut, double entendre, what is hukd coming to oO


until then :|
#14
wishihadadonkey
10 posts in and no ****, smut, double entendre, what is hukd coming to oO



you missed rupz spending 3 hours on top of his students......... and he's not teaching them!
#15
master_chief
r4ge
it might be because of all the RE lessons?

We've always had RE lessons though otherwise I'd have blamed them too. Maybe it's the lack of RE being taught now?

if we are totally honest and i really hate to say this, but its sex! there is so much more sex around that children grow up much quicker although not maturing at the same rate. Sex in something that has become more part of society. while they should be learning about core subjects like english, maths and science. they end up going to college and university and studying perfoming arts, drama and sociology.

Get a real degree and contribute to society, we used to be a nation with the greatest scientists in the world, but all we have left now is half a Hawkins and Brian Cox
#16
OP, link to article please?
#17
r4ge
Rupz
wat u tawkin bout we iz vell clever bruv X)

to be honest its true, universities tend not to teach certain subject areas as they say its "too difficult" or takeds p too much time to explain it to the students. i personally blame the government due to their "targets". Teaching along with medical care is made up too much beaurocratic crap that they have litel time to spend on the student/patient.

I spend atleast 3 hours per week on my students and I dont even teach them, i only supervise.

All grammar and spelling mistakes are intentional and have been left in to highlight the crappy state of the british educational system. :D

reported!


Im a supervisor for MSc sutdents lol.... so no need to teach, i provide guidance and experimental approaches for them to follow. I also sit in their viva's and interigate them not just in that uni but in many.
1 Like #18
i think i have to agree with op

this women has a masters a bsc an mbe an ibm, but she's well dumb

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdM3mgS2RQMKtVxBeV0f3YE8ttCdtBvxoOGhnhyZn0aRtDG_Yt
#19
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.

Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.
banned 5 Likes #20
£1400 - £700 = £0

True story.
#21
dtovey89
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.

Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.


Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning. I was also lead to believe that, as this girl was a A student, if she got a lower grade in the resit the higher grade will stand. To me it takes away the point of having a sitting exam. Isn't it bad enough already when you can get most of your grades from course work and STILL get a high grade without even bothering turning up for your written test? What's more, the majority of the students from the school seem to be going to sixth form to study PE and only a tiny few are going on to core subjects. Shocking.
banned 2 Likes #22
ei8hty5ive
dtovey89
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.

Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.

Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning. I was also lead to believe that, as this girl was a A student, if she got a lower grade in the resit the higher grade will stand. To me it takes away the point of having a sitting exam. Isn't it bad enough already when you can get most of your grades from course work and STILL get a high grade without even bothering turning up for your written test? What's more, the majority of the students from the school seem to be going to sixth form to study PE and only a tiny few are going on to core subjects. Shocking.

Students sit the previous years exams anyway in preparation so not going to be much better off resitting.
banned#23
master_chief
ei8hty5ive
dtovey89
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.

Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.


Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning. I was also lead to believe that, as this girl was a A student, if she got a lower grade in the resit the higher grade will stand. To me it takes away the point of having a sitting exam. Isn't it bad enough already when you can get most of your grades from course work and STILL get a high grade without even bothering turning up for your written test? What's more, the majority of the students from the school seem to be going to sixth form to study PE and only a tiny few are going on to core subjects. Shocking.


Students sit the previous years exams anyway in preparation so not going to be much better off resitting.


I was advanced a year when I was at school - because I'm THAT awesome (true story). Even those I was put in a class with were less educated than my cat.
I think genes/jeans have a lot to do with it.
banned 1 Like #24
ei8hty5ive

Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning.


You're right. After failing my history GCSE I retook it but this time I focused my revision on the past.

I had been revising quadratic equations and John Steinbeck for months, so imagine my surprise when I was asked about the factors leading to the Second World War.
#25
Does this include Scotland?
Can we see the link, cos im guessing it doesnt
Probably another measurement method that ignores us, cos our systems totally different.
Dont do GCSE's and A-Levels, hence we just get to laugh at the state of it down south
banned 1 Like #26
r4ge
i think i have to agree with op

this women has a masters a bsc an mbe an ibm, but she's well dumb

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdM3mgS2RQMKtVxBeV0f3YE8ttCdtBvxoOGhnhyZn0aRtDG_Yt

and she couldnt even spell vegetable (she thought it was vegatable)

GCSE exams are far easier now than the old GCE's ever were. Employers must have a nightmare what with most CV's having prospective employees all holding 10+ GCSE 'passes'.
#27
HaggisHunter
Does this include Scotland?
Can we see the link, cos im guessing it doesnt
Probably another measurement method that ignores us, cos our systems totally different.
Dont do GCSE's and A-Levels, hence we just get to laugh at the state of it down south

is that why the best thing to come out of scotland was gordon brown X)
#28
Rupz
HaggisHunter
Does this include Scotland?
Can we see the link, cos im guessing it doesnt
Probably another measurement method that ignores us, cos our systems totally different.
Dont do GCSE's and A-Levels, hence we just get to laugh at the state of it down south


is that why the best thing to come out of scotland was gordon brown X)


The best thing to come out of Scotland was Tony Blair, revenge for Thatcher ;)
banned#29
Rupz
HaggisHunter
Does this include Scotland?
Can we see the link, cos im guessing it doesnt
Probably another measurement method that ignores us, cos our systems totally different.
Dont do GCSE's and A-Levels, hence we just get to laugh at the state of it down south


is that why the best thing to come out of scotland was gordon brown X)

who only marginally beat that other famous Scotsman Tony Blair! ;)
#30
ui
HaggisHunter
Does this include Scotland?
Can we see the link, cos im guessing it doesnt
Probably another measurement method that ignores us, cos our systems totally different.
Dont do GCSE's and A-Levels, hence we just get to laugh at the state of it down south

Probably does include Scotland as this other report has England separate
http://nces.ed.gov/timss/table07_1.asp
#31
Marty1981
ui
HaggisHunter
Does this include Scotland?
Can we see the link, cos im guessing it doesnt
Probably another measurement method that ignores us, cos our systems totally different.
Dont do GCSE's and A-Levels, hence we just get to laugh at the state of it down south

Probably does include Scotland as this other report has England separate
http://nces.ed.gov/timss/table07_1.asp


Love to know where they got their figures from lol
Got this from the Scottish government website
"There are no national testing arrangements for children
in Scottish pre-schools or primary schools and there are no leaving certificates for
primary school children"
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/research/pdf_subj_maps/smda-10.pdf
#32
#33
r4ge
i think i have to agree with op

this women
has a masters a bsc an mbe an ibm, but she's well dumb

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdM3mgS2RQMKtVxBeV0f3YE8ttCdtBvxoOGhnhyZn0aRtDG_Yt



Ironyyyyy!
#34
Mmm, university places and degrees in what ever subject you like, handed out like sweeties these days.

In my day a science degree required a certain level of intellectual excellence - and included some rock hard maths. :p
#35
ei8hty5ive
dtovey89
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.

Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.


Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning. I was also lead to believe that, as this girl was a A student, if she got a lower grade in the resit the higher grade will stand. To me it takes away the point of having a sitting exam. Isn't it bad enough already when you can get most of your grades from course work and STILL get a high grade without even bothering turning up for your written test? What's more, the majority of the students from the school seem to be going to sixth form to study PE and only a tiny few are going on to core subjects. Shocking.


Coursework is being phased out in favour of controlled assessments, which pupils complete under exam conditions.
#36
must be all the foreign kids here now
#37
Susannah
ei8hty5ive
dtovey89
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.
Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning. I was also lead to believe that, as this girl was a A student, if she got a lower grade in the resit the higher grade will stand. To me it takes away the point of having a sitting exam. Isn't it bad enough already when you can get most of your grades from course work and STILL get a high grade without even bothering turning up for your written test? What's more, the majority of the students from the school seem to be going to sixth form to study PE and only a tiny few are going on to core subjects. Shocking.
Coursework is being phased out in favour of controlled assessments, which pupils complete under exam conditions.


I think that is the most stupidist thing the government can do. this now means the teachers will be feeding then the answers in a round about way an they scoring good marks although it's not their true mark. The coursework gives the student the ability to research his/her answer and explain it in their own understanding. Seems this government is grooming the next generation of fools.
banned#38
Rupz
Susannah
ei8hty5ive
dtovey89
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.
Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning. I was also lead to believe that, as this girl was a A student, if she got a lower grade in the resit the higher grade will stand. To me it takes away the point of having a sitting exam. Isn't it bad enough already when you can get most of your grades from course work and STILL get a high grade without even bothering turning up for your written test? What's more, the majority of the students from the school seem to be going to sixth form to study PE and only a tiny few are going on to core subjects. Shocking.
Coursework is being phased out in favour of controlled assessments, which pupils complete under exam conditions.


I think that is the most stupidist thing the government can do. this now means the teachers will be feeding then the answers in a round about way an they scoring good marks although it's not their true mark. The coursework gives the student the ability to research his/her answer and explain it in their own understanding. Seems this government is grooming the next generation of fools.

who currently awards the marks for their coursework?
#39
Rupz
r4ge
Rupz
wat u tawkin bout we iz vell clever bruv X)

to be honest its true, universities tend not to teach certain subject areas as they say its "too difficult" or takeds p too much time to explain it to the students. i personally blame the government due to their "targets". Teaching along with medical care is made up too much beaurocratic crap that they have litel time to spend on the student/patient.

I spend atleast 3 hours per week on my students and I dont even teach them, i only supervise.

All grammar and spelling mistakes are intentional and have been left in to highlight the crappy state of the british educational system. :D


reported!



Im a supervisor for MSc sutdents lol.... so no need to teach, i provide guidance and experimental approaches for them to follow. I also sit in their viva's and interigate them not just in that uni but in many.


Interigate? huh?
#40
ei8hty5ive
dtovey89
Complete BS @ the resitting exams.

Whenever I've took a resit it's never been the same questions as the previous exam. Similar topics maybe but not identical questions.


Maybe not identical questions but you must be at an unfair advantage if you even know the gist of the questioning. I was also lead to believe that, as this girl was a A student, if she got a lower grade in the resit the higher grade will stand. To me it takes away the point of having a sitting exam. Isn't it bad enough already when you can get most of your grades from course work and STILL get a high grade without even bothering turning up for your written test? What's more, the majority of the students from the school seem to be going to sixth form to study PE and only a tiny few are going on to core subjects. Shocking.


Don't be daft, anyone who has done an ounce of prep will have looked at past papers that are freely available to all, so all should no the gist of questioning.

I remember Maths A Level modules we essentially knew there would be 4 questions, worth 25 marks each, on 4 set areas.

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