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"Steel Against Ice", The Scotland Motorway Clearup. The Public Views

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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
Chanel 4 News reporter stood and watched while a portion of the motorway was being cleared. It looked like snow but it wasn't...
"That noise", he said is "steel against ice".

Emergency crews have been working to get Scotland moving after a night of weather chaos, but still warn not to take to the roads on Tuesday evening.

Heavy snow and freezing temperatures caused the country's transport network to grind to a halt.

On the M876 alone, 650 cars and 350 lorries became stuck on the five-mile stretch of road near Falkirk.

Disruption will continue into Wednesday, with the closure of the M8 westbound overnight.
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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#1
My heart melted at the thought of those people who stayed overnight in thier cars in teperatures below -11°C last night.
Please feel free to give your thought's/ experiences.

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Edited By: yeahbutitsnotfree on Dec 07, 2010 19:39: .
1 Like #2
dont get me started...............
#3
barky
dont get me started...............


Enough said barky, I've read your thread ....The Day after Tomorrow.
#4
its a complete nightmare,my wee renault clio wasnt coping well with the M80
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Can't understand why anyone would set out without a basic survival kit including food, water (hot drink in flask even better) spare warm clothes, spade in this weather.

The sooner the Government makes winter tyres compulsory the sooner we'll stop lorries jackknifing and cars sliding about on even the gentlest slope holding everyone else up.
1 Like #6
The councils aren't doing nearly enough, and haven't been for some weeks now. I've seen 1 gritter this winter, and most major roads were not being gritted or cleared even before the heavy snowfall at the beginning of the week.
#7
My sister's kids school is open tomorrow but the police are telling people not to venture out unless absolutely necessary!! She's keeping them off school as a result! I agree with her and think the school are mad to expect kids to brave icy roads/pavements.
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grit aint gonna do anything if temps are below -10

feel so sorry for all u scottish people......reading barky's thread was pretty upsetting as well. sad times
#9
cannyscot - Dec 07, 2010 20:18
Can't understand why anyone would set out without a basic survival kit including food, water (hot drink in flask even better) spare warm clothes, spade in this weather.

The sooner the Government makes winter tyres compulsory the sooner we'll stop lorries jackknifing and cars sliding about on even the gentlest slope holding everyone else up.


I have to agree with this, basic knowledge and prep for ice/ snowy conditions should be compulsory especially around Scotland. However the Government are not in the clear on this particular issue. Would you agree?

dcx_badass
The council have had people out cracking the ice off all paths here, even out the city centre, big slabs of ice and the side of the pavement over 2" thick.

What area is that? for the record.


tonypop
its a complete nightmare,my wee renault clio wasnt coping well with the M80


Renault Deisel's are usually very good with ice/ snow... is your's a petrol/ deisel?

Edited By: yeahbutitsnotfree on Dec 07, 2010 23:27: .
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it took me 3 hrs to get to work on train this morning on a 30 min train journey 15 mins in car ,roads were deserted its all very well clearing main roads but if non main roads arnt cleared no 1 can get out,and if they were cleared the volume of traffic would help clear main roads
#11
yeahbutitsnotfree
[quote=]cannyscot - Dec 07, 2010 20:18Can't understand why anyone would set out without a basic survival kit including food, water (hot drink in flask even better) spare warm clothes, spade in this weather.The sooner the Government makes winter tyres compulsory the sooner we'll stop lorries jackknifing and cars sliding about on even the gentlest slope holding everyone else up.

and how would this be inforced?
#12
dcx_badass
New'hastle pet. But yeah I live maybe a mile out the city centre and the ice has been taken off the paths along all the main roads, obviously used tools and force as there are big slabs of ice moved to the side.


What part of Newcastle? I'm in High Heaton and the council haven't bothered doing this around here. :-/
#13
I'm in Gateshead and they had a JCB driving around the other day breaking up all the compacted ice and snow.
banned#14
Brings back nights mares of earlier on in the year on the way back from a course in east london. All the trunk roads closed finally found one open and we had to be escorted by police cars.
#15
cannyscot
Can't understand why anyone would set out without a basic survival kit including food, water (hot drink in flask even better) spare warm clothes, spade in this weather.

The sooner the Government makes winter tyres compulsory the sooner we'll stop lorries jackknifing and cars sliding about on even the gentlest slope holding everyone else up.


It isn't " winter tyres ", it is poor driving skills.

Many drivers do not have a clue how to drive on snow or ice.
banned#16
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It isn't " winter tyres ", it is poor driving skills.

Many drivers do not have a clue how to drive on snow or ice.


My lowered suspension doesn't seem to help, my wife's car grips the snow so much better than mine.
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cannyscot
Can't understand why anyone would set out without a basic survival kit including food, water (hot drink in flask even better) spare warm clothes, spade in this weather.

The sooner the Government makes winter tyres compulsory the sooner we'll stop lorries jackknifing and cars sliding about on even the gentlest slope holding everyone else up.

It isn't " winter tyres ", it is poor driving skills.

Many drivers do not have a clue how to drive on snow or ice.

Wholeheartedly agree - my current car has 170bhp, sits on lowered suspension with low profile 17in wheels on sports compound tyres which should be a disaster in the snow. However despite going on back roads untouched by the ploughs or gritters for taking the dog out walking it's yet to get stuck once. Last year in a similar car I managed to get 200 miles and back through some of the worst snow up here again, people were surprised to find I didn't have a 4x4 of any sort but it's just a case of taking it slow and easy rather than shooting along at normal speeds and ignoring the conditions.

I have looked seriously into winter tyres this year due to my car's apparent poor suitability in the snow but given it's managed fine so far I'm not convinced the cost is worth it for the amount of time the snow is here for.

John
#18
I wondered for like 2 minutes yesterday when parents took me to Asda for tea at around 5.30p, and the cafe was out of food! turns out out delivery lorry couldnt make it in and also some people were stuck there overnight.
#19
lumoruk
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It isn't " winter tyres ", it is poor driving skills.

Many drivers do not have a clue how to drive on snow or ice.


My lowered suspension doesn't seem to help, my wife's car grips the snow so much better than mine.


My Subaru AWD didn't help me at all last year, I do believe winter tyres play a big part in gripping the road, my 16" low profiles where wide and slipped into ASDA's welcome sign post. It was like i had a set of snowboards on, that was at only 20mph.
Ofcourse people who can't drive on snow/ ice should consider alternative modes of transport/ stay at home.
#20
Got winters fitted on my vw corrado this year,great on snow/ice,makes you feel much safer on slippery bends too. Worth it cos they cost less than my insurance excess.
#21
Johnmcl7
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cannyscot
Can't understand why anyone would set out without a basic survival kit including food, water (hot drink in flask even better) spare warm clothes, spade in this weather.

The sooner the Government makes winter tyres compulsory the sooner we'll stop lorries jackknifing and cars sliding about on even the gentlest slope holding everyone else up.


It isn't " winter tyres ", it is poor driving skills.

Many drivers do not have a clue how to drive on snow or ice.


Wholeheartedly agree - my current car has 170bhp, sits on lowered suspension with low profile 17in wheels on sports compound tyres which should be a disaster in the snow. However despite going on back roads untouched by the ploughs or gritters for taking the dog out walking it's yet to get stuck once. Last year in a similar car I managed to get 200 miles and back through some of the worst snow up here again, people were surprised to find I didn't have a 4x4 of any sort but it's just a case of taking it slow and easy rather than shooting along at normal speeds and ignoring the conditions.

I have looked seriously into winter tyres this year due to my car's apparent poor suitability in the snow but given it's managed fine so far I'm not convinced the cost is worth it for the amount of time the snow is here for.

John


What part of the country are you in?
#22
I'm North of Dundee - not so bad here as central belt - lucky as we got it ear;lier I think but then didnt get hits so bad with last few rounds of snow so kids are now back at school this week - they got back for a few hours Thursday and council has been great they have had diggers in carting away the snow and then breaking up the ice on the main roads in town and carting it away and have done at least one side of most pavements - okay otherside may have about 2 foot of snow to wade through and kids dont get out at break times from school cos snow is too deep but thank god we didnt get it as bad as the central belt!

I work for a call centre at moemnt part time and thats been fun as deal with raileasy\megabus etc so lots of calls and then to add to it fun with payments on some sites tonight - guessing due to the hacking?Some people booking journeys and bookings didnt complete but payments are kept in a holding acct by bank and wil be returned i approx 72 hours I think but not a good time at xmas to have money floating around in the deep blue nowhere that you want to spend but cant cos its in transit! Hope the hackers thing is fixed tomorrow, we have enough hassle with all the train and bus services at moment and limited stock in shops and am still waiting for some of my shopping orders for xmas to arrive in post as due to kids nursery\school and me working evenings, I cant really get to shops as I dont drive and public transport is a joke up here in country!
#23
nikkiandmidgets
we have enough hassle with all the train and bus services at moment and limited stock in shops and am still waiting for some of my shopping orders for xmas to arrive in post as due to kids nursery\school and me working evenings, I cant really get to shops as I dont drive and public transport is a joke up here in country!


WOW you guys have got it bad, shows how grateful the rest of us should be.. shops o.k. cars etc I wish you the best and hope the kids are happy and you have a nice holiday.. not long now.
Just consider yourself lucky your not driving, there's stories all over the U.K of people that got stuck in their cars for 15 + hours! Imagine all alone, no food, no toilet, fuel running out and car cant move.. absolute nightmare.
[mod]#24
jellybaby22
All the trains and buses round my way cancelled ... Roads are undrivable... Running out of stuff in the shops... And now the petrol stations are running out ... :(


Nice and sunny and dry here :D About 2 degrees.
[mod]#25
The snow we had was pathetic........it looked like someone had dropped a bag of icing sugar. lol
#26
we have lots but either I have forgotten how to or snow is too icy but I cant get a snowman made - the snow isnt sticking together! Annoying as its a fun way to deal with the piles of snow in the garden, and make it possible to reach the ice at the bottom to break it up!

Am sure when I was a kid we used to make a snowball then roll it around in snow and it grew! Not working for me this year!
#27
nikkiandmidgets
we have lots but either I have forgotten how to or snow is too icy but I cant get a snowman made - the snow isnt sticking together! Annoying as its a fun way to deal with the piles of snow in the garden, and make it possible to reach the ice at the bottom to break it up!

Am sure when I was a kid we used to make a snowball then roll it around in snow and it grew! Not working for me this year!


It is strange that, had the same problem here attempting to clear up my sisters street... gathering the snow sticking it together and rolling was near impossible.
I just wonder if anyone was looking! It was really embarassing.

Edited By: yeahbutitsnotfree on Dec 09, 2010 18:03

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