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Steven Gerrard: Liverpool captain, England international... and serial diver

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6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
Im glad someone is bringing his serial diving to attention...
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6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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#1
[COLOR="Red"]WARNING - INVOLVES A LITTLE READING[/COLOR]

I don't think there's anything worse than a player diving when no one's been anywhere near him. It does ruin the game.

I'm sure you agree, but you wouldn't be agreeing with me. They are the words of Steven Gerrard, England midfielder, Liverpool's captain and a player who demonstrated his ability to go to ground all too easily again against Arsenal on Wednesday night.

Times may be hard over at Anfield just now - the dysfunctional board, no sign of the promised new stadium and continued underachievement on the pitch. But all that is no excuse for his behaviour.

Granted, the chase for three points hasn't been felt so acutely since Liverpool finished fifth back in 2005.

But has a player, who personifies so much that is right with football, become so desperate to win that he will sacrifice his so-called values to gain a slender advantage?

Gerrard hasn't shirked his responsibilities on the field - he never has - and he remains one of the finest midfielders of his generation.

But what can only be described as his blatant diving at the Emirates last night was embarrassing for him and the club he loves so dearly.
No Diving

On two separate occasions - at Arsenal and in the tempestuous Merseyside derby at the weekend - Gerrard hit the deck without the clattering challenges or blatant fouls that would have deemed his tumbles legal.

And on each occasion, he was straight on to his feet, remonstrating with the referee as we watched replays showing his falls.

Yet, this is no flash in the pan. Gerrard has previous: from the dubious penalty he won for England against Hungary in 2006 to the trailing leg 'foul' when he tried to win a penalty against Blackburn.

There were apparent dives against Portugal, Andorra, Sheffield United, Chelsea, Marseille. The list goes on.

Sportsmail launched the No Diving campaign this season in an attempt to combat the cheats. When we asked you to name and shame the divers, Gerrard was one of the Premier League players who kept cropping up.

Search on YouTube and you can see that plenty of irate fans have posted examples of his misdemeanors.
Gerrard


Gerrard once said: 'If I saw one of my team-mates diving, I would definitely have a word.' Well, maybe its time that one of his team-mates and great friends, Jamie Carragher, put an arm round his captain's shoulder to remind him of his responsibilties.

Responsibilites that come with wearing the armband for Liverpool, being an icon to thousands of young fans, an international footballer and as the guardian of his own reputation - to not let his Bambi-on-ice impressions tarnish his illustrious career.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1250236/Steven-Gerrard-Liverpool-captain-England-international--serial-diver.html
#2
with great power comes great responsabiltiy!!
[mod]#3
Could not agree more.
#4
You should really link to your source incase someone mistakes those as your own words :)
#5
bazzaric
You should really link to your source incase someone mistakes those as your own words :)


Whoop's.

Sorted :thumbsup:
#6
Deliberate cheating won't stop until;

1) Soccer uses TV replays to identify culprits. Rugby Union has done so for years - to the benefit of the game. Officials can be pressurised by crowds/players. The TV pictures are more objective.
2) Clubs - not players - are penalised by the immediate loss of the three points irrespective of the score. Fining players or clubs has been shown not to work. Just look at the acrobatics that foreign players use around the penalty box during international competitions. A cynic mught be forgiven for thinking that clubs actually factor in the costs of such fines to their annual accounts and players fined a week or two's wages can easily afford it.

If these two steps had already been in place, Ireland and not France would have gone through.
#7
banned#9
Did Gerrard get booked for diving in the game you mention, or did Bendtner?

Strong irony in this thread!
#10
Its a disease in pro fottball and the one you have mentioned from Wednesday was a blatant dive and so was the one right after that that involved, I think it was Dick Kite !.

If I remember correctly it was a certain Mr Klinsman that was mainly responsible for bringing the diving into the English game and I can remember that at the time it was all taken as a joke and thought of as quite funny.

But its not just Gerrard or for that matter just in the Premier League its in football right down to grass roots level as I have been involved with football for many years at local level and see it all the time.
#11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abk9JSDBra4&feature=related

He tried is against Arsenal the other night, and got a couple of Free kicks against Everton the week before.....

He is a mess.... Alex is a good lay though...
#12
guv
Did Gerrard get booked for diving in the game you mention, or did Bendtner?

Strong irony in this thread!


Yep only Gerrard Dives.. you know or as the game knows it, playing the challange, how longs this list going to get, sounds like one bitter Arsenal fan, even though you beat us? Strange.

You have been warned no other players do such things. It's FACT.
banned#13
Adam2050
Yep only Gerrard Dives you know or as the game knows it, playing the challange, how longs this list going to get, sounds like one bitter Arsenal fan, even though you beat us? Strange.


They're a funny lot them gooners!
#14
guv
Did Gerrard get booked for diving in the game you mention, or did Bendtner?

Strong irony in this thread!


Its only the foreigners who dive.

No way was Webb going to book English hero Stevie G.

In all seriousness, it is a joke that the media make little fuss over the biggest diver in world football. He's not even subtle. Does sum crazy, flying spreaded eagle.
#15
guv
They're a funny lot them gooners!


Indeed. Only foreigners do it, don't make me laugh.

Do most footie fans on here, only look at match of the day or do they actually watch games in full?
#16
Because Gerrard is an England international and a key player for our hopes of a world cup it seems to be ok for him to dive and nothing be done!

The media in general are turning a blind eye to his recent diving antics.....if this was a foreign player then the media would be having a field day.....i was listening to the radio the other day and they were trying to justify Gerrards diving as ok.....
#17
cannyscot
Deliberate cheating won't stop until;

1) Soccer uses TV replays to identify culprits. Rugby Union has done so for years - to the benefit of the game. Officials can be pressurised by crowds/players. The TV pictures are more objective.
2) Clubs - not players - are penalised by the immediate loss of the three points irrespective of the score. Fining players or clubs has been shown not to work. Just look at the acrobatics that foreign players use around the penalty box during international competitions. A cynic mught be forgiven for thinking that clubs actually factor in the costs of such fines to their annual accounts and players fined a week or two's wages can easily afford it.

If these two steps had already been in place, Ireland and not France would have gone through.


TV replays would slow the entire game down, thats the great thing about football, its free flowing and there are hardly any breaks, tv replays would change that, it would be a whole new ball game and would become boring.

3 points docked for a player diving...are you serious??? :?
#18
khy86
TV replays would slow the entire game down, thats the great thing about football, its free flowing and there are hardly any breaks, tv replays would change that, it would be a whole new ball game and would become boring.

3 points docked for a player diving...are you serious??? :?


Best thing to introduce is a one game suspension for any player found diving!!!....that will soon stamp it out
[mod]#19
Diving is rife in all divisions of football. Every team has their 'expert'.
#20
Gerrard, Ashley Young and Drogba .............. possibly the top 3 cheaters / divers in the top flight.
#21
Abz
Best thing to introduce is a one game suspension for any player found diving!!!....that will soon stamp it out


Or punish them with a booking, seriously I thought that's what they were for, I am all for no diving no matter the club nor the player. But suspensions for something that can be dealt with in game if you brought in replays, surely that's the point in them right?

As for one player being singled out, don't be daft.
#22
smithyp1
Gerrard, Ashley Young and Drogba .............. possibly the top 3 cheaters / divers in the top flight.


Drogba is far worse then Gerrard or Ashley young, Drogba has his own league.

Check out Rooney the little fat shrek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cmpozcslIA - Skillzzz penality defo. (Sorry guv)
#23
Check out Lampard, he wasn't so lucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik4j8S09TD0
#24
Adam2050
Or punish them with a booking, seriously I thought that's what they were for, I am all for no diving no matter the club nor the player. But suspensions for something that can be dealt with in game if you brought in replays, surely that's the point in them right?

As for one player being singled out, don't be daft.


The problem with dealing with in game is that as some-one mentioned the game is alot faster these days...and its difficult for refs to pick out the divers....hence i would rather it be dealt with after the game using replays.....i really dont want technology to stop the flow of the game.....
#25
Just so you think im not avoiding my own club.

Check out Torres sweet pathetic dive agains't Man Boobs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZpapsRcQgk
#26
Adam2050
Drogba is far worse then Gerrard or Ashley young, Drogba has his own league.

Check out Rooney the little fat shrek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cmpozcslIA - Skillzzz penality defo. (Sorry guv)


Adam2050
Check out Lampard, he wasn't so lucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik4j8S09TD0


what about N'gog.....this could go on and on
#27
Adam2050
Just so you think im not avoiding my own club.

Check out Torres sweet pathetic dive agains't Man Boobs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZpapsRcQgk


Sweet knights thats a beut.

Did he get the free kick?
#28
Abz
what about N'gog.....this could go on and on


Exactly, tons of culprits from each team.

This has got to be the best footage ever of that so called challange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2svcj2vVW74 I loled really hard.
#29
#30
gerrard is the worst culprit yet he has the nerve to bang on about divers!

have a word with yourself Stevie g!
#31


0:43 secs :-D
#32
jaybizzle
0:43 secs :-D


Makes any english league dive look like a leg breaking challange. Seriously pathetic.
#33
As a lifelong Liverpool fan (Ah.... memories of when we were world class!) I should be defending Gerrard but in this instance I agree. I just don't understand why a world class player, which he most certainly is, has to resort to these tactics on a regular basis. It just makes me cringe when I see it and, why I don't want Liverpool to lose for any reason, I also hate to sneak a win from a blatant ballet move. I might, maybe, just, forgive a bit of a dive in the dying minutes of a cup final to rescue the team (heroic sacrifice style) but not the cynical way it appears to be used as a legitimate team tactic.

Tongue in cheek bit alert!!!:
In his defence, he's bloody good at it and has spent some considerable time honing his talent! So far, you are concentrating on the obvious ones recently but he's been at it for years, trailing leg, pulling up like his shirts been pulled etc etc, he's got a great repertoire. He has a great knack (!?!) of wrong-footing a defender to get the opportunity to dive but it is not what I want to see from our captain, of all people - if he can wrong-foot someone why not just go past!!!

***Rant over***

On a more positive note, it's still nice to see the, increasingly rare, event where the player has just been well beaten and shows the goalie/defender etc appreciation rather than a whinge and a complaint to the ref or the goalie acknowledges a particularly good attempt on goal (only seen when it hasn't gone in, obviously :-D ). Cynicism has not yet completely taken over.

Phew!

Dave
#34
Has anyone got any footage of the dive on wednesday?
banned#35
the__mayster
Has anyone got any footage of the dive on wednesday?


Which one? The one in the penalty area, or the one just before their last minute free kick?

Yes Bendtner got booked, but didn't even Andy Gray say it was a harsh one and probably a penalty?

Drogba used to be a lot worse, but he got a lot of stick from his own fans because it was getting silly. He's really cut it out from his game and I would argue become a much greater threat because of it.

Maybe the Liverpool fans need to have a word in the shell of the second coming:whistling:
#36
khy86;7820328
TV replays would slow the entire game down, thats the great thing about football, its free flowing and there are hardly any breaks, tv replays would change that, it would be a whole new ball game and would become boring.

3 points docked for a player diving...are you serious??? :?



TV replays would eventually be required only for the most marginal decisions eg off/onside, ball over goal line etc. because players would learn not to cheat because they would be caught and their club would forfeit all 3 points.
So eventually the game would improve and become more free-flowing - no shirt pulling leading to stoppages for free kicks, no tackle grabbing in set pieces, no hands of God ,etc., etc.

And yes, I am serious because anything else would be like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic - lots of activity but no actual use!
How serious are you about getting rid of cheating - not just diving?
How quickly do you want it to stop?

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