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Strike Day :-)

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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
it feels like i've woken up in the 1970s
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while the rich are avoiding tax, exploiting workers and having the Tories wipe their butts whilst having the time of their lives the rest of us are left to fight over the sloppy left overs

Unit & fight there's more than enough for all to enjoy in the 6th richest country in the world
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Everyone should strike, the ability to redraw labour is the only tool we have to fight with.

we are sitting back and letting the government push us down a slippy slope to an American health care model, decreased standard of living, very little chance of seeking justice from our employers/former employers, a nation of fleeced renters with a useless wrlfare system that forces people to go to foodbanks and go cap in hand to charities.

Years of fighting to get those things, now to watch them vanish due selfish apathy and ignorance. America is one of the few countries that doesn't have a national health service why hold them up as an example, we already have below average welfare spending compared to other first world nations. We need to stop sleep walking into being brow beaten paupers.
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RAFAVDV
Musician
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).

Firefighters risk there lives everyday? Really? I doubt most would recognise a fire if they saw one... And they knew the retirement age when they chose that career path.

How did they know the retirement age would be increased when they chose to be a firefighter? :|
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RAFAVDV
Musician
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).

Firefighters risk there lives everyday? Really? I doubt most would recognise a fire if they saw one... And they knew the retirement age when they chose that career path.

Teachers do not start working the moment school starts nor do they finish working the moment the school day ends.

Firefighters did know their retirement age when they joined the service. And they knew their pensions. Now, they are striking because these are being CHANGED. How they could have known that prior to joining is astonishing! Maybe I should ask some of my colleagues for the winning lottery numbers!

Firefighters just want the terms they signed up for. Nothing more but certainly nothing less.

Before you ask, I work for Control and we aren't striking. I'm off work anyway today so am heading down to my fire station shortly to show my damn support!!
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Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

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I take it you don't approve?
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don't worry the tories are about to **** them over big style :)

if they get in next year they are going to firstly make it a lot harder to strike and secondly make teachers 'core' staff which means it is against the law to strike...

that will teach them!


Edited By: Aeschylus on Jul 10, 2014 09:09
banned 1 Like #3
Can't stand strikes, mainly because I never get to do one!

Wish they'd all just shut up and get on with it. Live isn't fair, get used to it. Bunch of whingers.
banned 1 Like #4
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).
#5
Good luck to them, them striking a few days leads to kids getting a better education then so be it.
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Musician
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).

Firefighters risk there lives everyday? Really? I doubt most would recognise a fire if they saw one... And they knew the retirement age when they chose that career path.

Teachers do not start working the moment school starts nor do they finish working the moment the school day ends.
#7
Serious question. Can anyone suggest when a national strike in the UK achieved its aims?
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RAFAVDV
Musician
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).

Firefighters risk there lives everyday? Really? I doubt most would recognise a fire if they saw one... And they knew the retirement age when they chose that career path.

How did they know the retirement age would be increased when they chose to be a firefighter? :|
#9
IamMT
Serious question. Can anyone suggest when a national strike in the UK achieved its aims?

Tube drivers, they get everything they want, everytime. massively overpaid, ticket office staff probably easiest job in the sector.... upset them they bring London to a standstill
#10
Aeschylus
IamMT
Serious question. Can anyone suggest when a national strike in the UK achieved its aims?

Tube drivers, they get everything they want, everytime. massively overpaid, ticket office staff probably easiest job in the sector.... upset them they bring London to a standstill
Although not national.
#11
IamMT
Aeschylus
IamMT
Serious question. Can anyone suggest when a national strike in the UK achieved its aims?

Tube drivers, they get everything they want, everytime. massively overpaid, ticket office staff probably easiest job in the sector.... upset them they bring London to a standstill
Although not national.

Politicians only recognise London. that is why National strikes never work, now if every teacher said they were not working for 2 weeks, then things would change

a day here and there affects Whitehall very little
banned 2 Likes #12
RAFAVDV
Firefighters risk there lives everyday? Really? I doubt most would recognise a fire if they saw one... And they knew the retirement age when they chose that career path.

What a load of tosh, how did someone who started as a firefighter 10 years ago have any idea the pensions and retirement age would change?
banned#13
Musician
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).

Compare how many teachers die because of students to firefighters... there's not much between
6 Likes #14
RAFAVDV
Musician
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).

Firefighters risk there lives everyday? Really? I doubt most would recognise a fire if they saw one... And they knew the retirement age when they chose that career path.

Teachers do not start working the moment school starts nor do they finish working the moment the school day ends.

Firefighters did know their retirement age when they joined the service. And they knew their pensions. Now, they are striking because these are being CHANGED. How they could have known that prior to joining is astonishing! Maybe I should ask some of my colleagues for the winning lottery numbers!

Firefighters just want the terms they signed up for. Nothing more but certainly nothing less.

Before you ask, I work for Control and we aren't striking. I'm off work anyway today so am heading down to my fire station shortly to show my damn support!!
9 Likes #15
Everyone should strike, the ability to redraw labour is the only tool we have to fight with.

we are sitting back and letting the government push us down a slippy slope to an American health care model, decreased standard of living, very little chance of seeking justice from our employers/former employers, a nation of fleeced renters with a useless wrlfare system that forces people to go to foodbanks and go cap in hand to charities.

Years of fighting to get those things, now to watch them vanish due selfish apathy and ignorance. America is one of the few countries that doesn't have a national health service why hold them up as an example, we already have below average welfare spending compared to other first world nations. We need to stop sleep walking into being brow beaten paupers.
banned#16
leelee6781
Musician
Firefighters, agreed; they risk their lives everyday they deserve every bonus going. Retirement age agreed, you can't perform doing that job at that age.

Teachers: Disagree, once again letting down our kids and setting a bad example, already paid well. They need to get back in the real world; some companies haven't had pay rises for some years. Then there's the fact they get 12 weeks holiday and only work shorter days.

Other Civil Servants. Don't really agree. Times are hard, cut backs on staff are necessary as are pension changes. As for privatisation if they are not making money (like the mines in the 80s) It's necessary.

Good on the alliance for trying to pull our country back into the real world (things starting to look good again) after what labour did to this country (people have short memories).

Compare how many teachers die because of students to firefighters... there's not much between

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Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?
banned 1 Like #18
whatsThePoint
momartin
Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

countless common people have risked and lost their life's saving or trying to save others

Firefighters are common people, just with more balls than most of us.
banned 1 Like #19
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
whatsThePoint
momartin
Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

countless common people have risked and lost their life's saving or trying to save others

Firefighters are common people, just with more balls than most of us.

by balls do you mean training and the right equipment or are you saying they blindly just rush into a fire with no regards for their own safety

By balls I mean by willingly doing one of the most dangerous jobs going. They risk their lives for our safety and so they deserve our respect.
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while the rich are avoiding tax, exploiting workers and having the Tories wipe their butts whilst having the time of their lives the rest of us are left to fight over the sloppy left overs

Unit & fight there's more than enough for all to enjoy in the 6th richest country in the world
banned 1 Like #21
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
whatsThePoint
momartin
Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

countless common people have risked and lost their life's saving or trying to save others

Firefighters are common people, just with more balls than most of us.

by balls do you mean training and the right equipment or are you saying they blindly just rush into a fire with no regards for their own safety

By balls I mean by willingly doing one of the most dangerous jobs going. They risk their lives for our safety and so they deserve our respect.

so now you are saying they work on a fishing boat while not being a low risk of death at work firefighter

http://goinglikesixty.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/makes-no-sense.jpg
#22
dont agree with the strike myself they are well paid enough and its us parents who have to pay, ive have to fork out for nursury to have my daughter, it was either that or use a days leave or go unpaid
banned 2 Likes #23
king261
dont agree with the strike myself they are well paid enough and its us parents who have to pay, ive have to fork out for nursury to have my daughter, it was either that or use a days leave or go unpaid


So you think its fair that someone who has been doing a job for say 15 years is suddenly told they cannot retire until they are 68 and their pension scheme has been changed?
Dunno about others, but I think most 68 year olds would struggle to control a class of teenagers, so not really sure raising the retirement age is in the best interest of the kids regardless of any other arguments.

Edited By: davey369 on Jul 10, 2014 11:12: spelling
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As much as I support the strikers I also know it is futile some may enjoy popular support but most in our society don't care for workers rights.

The tories won't be happy till they have broken any will to fight that workers have (lucky to have a job etc) then as mentioned above after next election laws against public sector strikes then they will be privatised.
#25
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
whatsThePoint
momartin
Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

countless common people have risked and lost their life's saving or trying to save others

Firefighters are common people, just with more balls than most of us.

by balls do you mean training and the right equipment or are you saying they blindly just rush into a fire with no regards for their own safety

The right training and equipment?? Have you seen Manchester's budget? The training system is antiquated and get cancelled at the drop of a hat. The equipment is almost unfit for purpose and since pooled fire gear came in a couple of years ago it's a case of running into a fire with gear that's not right for the wearer.

WTP you are always trying to be controversial and most of the time I do like you. This time you're well wide of the mark sausage.

Edited By: momartin on Jul 10, 2014 11:21
1 Like #26
yeah Pointy stop being a troll-sausage & get back on the picket line :p
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6idroSxpf1qz80pso1_500.jpg
#27
whatsThePoint
momartin
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
whatsThePoint
momartin
Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

countless common people have risked and lost their life's saving or trying to save others

Firefighters are common people, just with more balls than most of us.

by balls do you mean training and the right equipment or are you saying they blindly just rush into a fire with no regards for their own safety

The right training and equipment?? Have you seen Manchester's budget? The training system is antiquated and get cancelled at the drop of a hat. The equipment is almost unfit for purpose and since pooled fire gear came in a couple of years ago it's a case of running into a fire with gear that's not right for the wearer.

WTP you are always trying to be controversial and most of the time I do like you. This time you're well wide of the mark sausage.

so you consider a job in which on average 1 person out of the 1000s who dies each year in work to be highly dangerous and if you were a firefighter you would worry each morning that 1 person might be you?

Yes. Have you not seen Ladder 43? John Travolta coming to your house is a bad omen.

People's opinions of Firefighters is laughable. Their argument immediately goes to 'well they play snooker and have beds to sleep in'. Well, they simply don't! Some stations have snooker tables but the crews paid for them out of their subs and there isn't time to play anyway what with the extensive community work and home safety checks booked in. Beds-wise, these were removed in 2009. Firefighter's don't sleep all evening. They do station-end work and update Operational Intelligence Systems with information on premises in their area.

I bet a lot of people who criticise the Fire Service were happy to take the free smoke alarms from us. If your house was on fire you wouldn't turn Firefighters away would you??
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KillFelix
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
whatsThePoint
momartin
Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

countless common people have risked and lost their life's saving or trying to save others

Firefighters are common people, just with more balls than most of us.

by balls do you mean training and the right equipment or are you saying they blindly just rush into a fire with no regards for their own safety

By balls I mean by willingly doing one of the most dangerous jobs going. They risk their lives for our safety and so they deserve our respect.

everyone should be respected, bout time we stopped pushing the building trade down, paying migrant builders the minimum wage or less, that is a dangerous job, infact the statistics say in the last 10 years we have had more deaths on building sites and from illnesses caused by that line of work then the amount of soliders lost on the battlefield in that time, so technically being a builder is more dangerous then fighting in a war zone. I don't see people standing up and saying we need to support builders and respect them more.

Everyone is should be respected this looking down on others is part of the problem that allows government to grind people down and demonise them for wanting a decent life. The gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and bigger.
[helper] 1 Like #29
Aeschylus
don't worry the tories are about to **** them over big style :)

if they get in next year they are going to firstly make it a lot harder to strike and secondly make teachers 'core' staff which means it is against the law to strike...

that will teach them!

I'm hoping that if they bring in the "threshold" idea they also apply it to politicians......:D
#30
whatsThePoint
momartin
whatsThePoint
momartin
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
whatsThePoint
momartin
Oh, and coinicidentally, Sunday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Firefighter Stephen Hunt who died in a fire on Oldham Street in Manchester. So, yeah, firefighting's a walk in the park....

Any firefighter would risk their lives to save yours. Can you say the same?

countless common people have risked and lost their life's saving or trying to save others

Firefighters are common people, just with more balls than most of us.

by balls do you mean training and the right equipment or are you saying they blindly just rush into a fire with no regards for their own safety

The right training and equipment?? Have you seen Manchester's budget? The training system is antiquated and get cancelled at the drop of a hat. The equipment is almost unfit for purpose and since pooled fire gear came in a couple of years ago it's a case of running into a fire with gear that's not right for the wearer.

WTP you are always trying to be controversial and most of the time I do like you. This time you're well wide of the mark sausage.

so you consider a job in which on average 1 person out of the 1000s who dies each year in work to be highly dangerous and if you were a firefighter you would worry each morning that 1 person might be you?

Yes. Have you not seen Ladder 43? John Travolta coming to your house is a bad omen.

People's opinions of Firefighters is laughable. Their argument immediately goes to 'well they play snooker and have beds to sleep in'. Well, they simply don't! Some stations have snooker tables but the crews paid for them out of their subs and there isn't time to play anyway what with the extensive community work and home safety checks booked in. Beds-wise, these were removed in 2009. Firefighter's don't sleep all evening. They do station-end work and update Operational Intelligence Systems with information on premises in their area.

I bet a lot of people who criticise the Fire Service were happy to take the free smoke alarms from us. If your house was on fire you wouldn't turn Firefighters away would you??

I didn't realise ff's pay for the fire alarms out of their own pocket and their was a high risk while fitting them

what has doing their job got to do with the low risks of doing it, it's a bit like saying a doctor does a dangerous job when healing you because you wouldn't turn one away if they were treating you

Doctor's DO do a high risk job. Their infection risk is massive!
And yes, the smoke alarms are paid for by the Fire Service so make a dent in the pot that could be used for things like training and new equipment....
1 Like #31
king261
dont agree with the strike myself they are well paid enough and its us parents who have to pay, ive have to fork out for nursury to have my daughter, it was either that or use a days leave or go unpaid

we are not allowed to take day's leave, either strike or cross picket line - guess what i am doing? Housework oO
banned 2 Likes #32
^^ Arguing for the sake of arguing...
2 Likes #33
Heres Teachers for you....

I have two boys with Autism, one at Primary one at Secondary

both finish at 3pm but i have arrangements to pick up my youngest at 3.15, both my boys attend a special Autism department at the relative school.

now my eldest boy regularly is stopped from leaving until after 3.15 making me very late for my youngest, whose autism is very severe and gets very distressed when routine is broken.

When i asked my eldest son why the teach er keeps him back, he said he explains he has to leave on time for my younger brother, and the teacher says to him, "I do not care that is not my concern", when i confront the teacher over this, despite my eldest 1-1 support working hearing it and other pupils she denies ever saying it, yet says it again the very next time, so when i ask why he is let out late she says "its my sons fault for not being as fast as other pupils".

so when i was told that she was striking, my answer to that to her was "I do not care, it isn't my concern".

this is just one example of how teachers care very little for the children they care for, how teachers find it very easy to talk down to children and even lie to protect their own attitude to the job.

I hope they get nothing, they should get the same entitlements as the rest of us, they aren't firefighters, they aren't nurses or doctors, they are teachers, and they do nothing remarkable other than present a lesson, and very few teachers actually care for the students.
#34
My wife works as a Higher Level Teaching Assistant (She is also a qualified primary school teacher, TAing for a while till she goes back into it full time).

Despite the fact she is part of Unison she is not striking, she is in school. She doesn't agree that teachers should be permitted to strike, feels that it impacts the children more than anything else.

Personally i don't agree in striking in most cases, not unless there is an extreme situation where it's completely understandable. Although i can understand teachers pay has been eroded due to inflation and lack of pay rise. It's cyclical though.

Edited By: spritey on Jul 10, 2014 12:35: .
#35
spritey
My wife works as a Higher Level Teaching Assistant (She is also a qualified primary school teacher, TAing for a while till she goes back into it full time).

Despite the fact she is part of Unison she is not striking, she is in school. She doesn't agree that teachers should be permitted to strike, feels that it impacts the children more than anything else.

Personally i don't agree in striking in most cases, not unless there is an extreme situation where it's completely understand. Although i can understand teachers pay has been eroded due to inflation and lack of pay rise.


Whats your opinion though? do you think your wife should be able to retire earlier and be on the same level as a firefighter?
1 Like #36
haritori
Whats your opinion though? do you think your wife should be able to retire earlier and be on the same level as a firefighter?

I don't have one...

My personal view is public sector workers should have a good pension, as the main attraction of that work has always been a decent pension and job stability as a way to counter private sector pay. Everything else is a bit of a non issue to me.

Edited By: spritey on Jul 10, 2014 12:33
1 Like #37
these large unions seem to be like a cult

"give us your money every month, we're not shrewd enough to negotiate you a good deal with your employer so we'll strike & you'll lose a days pay"

members are brainwashed into thinking the union is acting in their best interests X) just keep paying their fees you'll be fine oO
banned#38
whatsThePoint
KillFelix
^^ Arguing for the sake of arguing...

^^ trolling for the sake of trolling

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4 Likes #39
Best wishes to those on strike, I admire you, the sooner this bunch of effluent toffs are out the better.

BTW, I don't recall the Tories getting a very high turnout, but they still govern us.

Take away the right to strike, and you will be under the complete control of this corrupt and vile outfit.
1 Like #40
heres a thing....

I worked in security for 18 years.... I would regularly get assaulted, spat at, and attacked.... my wages when i started were £15/hr..... now.... with the influx of foreigners your lucky to get £8/hr.

My gf is a teacher although not part of a union involved in todays strikes so as shes just text shes ' working hard'.... and no doubt I see her workload and know shes worth every penny....
But imo, teachers get paid alot, the pay systems have changed though for her which means long terms shes worse off.... but still she gets a decent wage....

Do we deserve more?? yes we do.... could i strike? no i couldnt..... can she - yes she does...

I then pick up the paper and read about an unemployed father of 13 who has had 2 council houses knocked thru to accommodate then and who is moaning about sum1 killing his prized koi carp....
But we/the state are funding his family and the games room that he lives in....

There are alot of problems in this country.... shutting the doors will solve one, and forced work will solve the other.

I believe EVERYONE should have the right to strike.... but those in private sector which isnt unionised will jsut get the sack... is this fair? i think not.

But you know what.... nothing will change until theres a radical shift in government and that will not happen with labour and conservative.

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