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Supermarket chickens, what are we being sold? (1stop Halal factory)

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Chickens boiled alive, I personally won't buy supermarket chicken, they say it has happened numerous times, this is the times they were caught out. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4078006/… Read More
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5m, 3w agoPosted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Chickens boiled alive, I personally won't buy supermarket chicken, they say it has happened numerous times, this is the times they were caught out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4078006/Halal-chicken-firm-supplies-supermarkets-boiled-birds-ALIVE-blunders-meant-not-throats-slit-plunged-water.html
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The DailyMail? That's really your source of fact??
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Quoted from article, "Chickens are also killed using the same method without being stunned for some Muslims who want to know the animals are alive when they are killed.'

Surely all animals are alive when they are killed oO

It is a barbaric way of slaughter and should not be allowed.
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What about boiling alive lobster or crabs?

That's a very British culture...
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81 over the course of 4 months, they slaughter up to 100,000 per day.

Of course thats only the ones they know about, but I'm sure this happens in every slaughterhouse in the UK.

If you care about animal welfare you wouldn't eat any meat ever.

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This displeases the great one, I smite you
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The DailyMail? That's really your source of fact??
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Free Range corn fed chicken please.

Not too fussed how it dies so long as its quick.

Edited By: YouDontWantToKnow on Dec 31, 2016 10:32
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The DailyMail? That's really your source of fact??
No , it's in the times but subscription only
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The DailyMail? That's really your source of fact??

Precisely. Cooking a chicken to death. & then you have to disembowel it?

Nah. Its another airfix "story"
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
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Quoted from article, "Chickens are also killed using the same method without being stunned for some Muslims who want to know the animals are alive when they are killed.'

Surely all animals are alive when they are killed oO

It is a barbaric way of slaughter and should not be allowed.
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The DailyMail? That's really your source of fact??

Yes thats a source or http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/supermarket-poultry-firm-boiled-halal-chickens-alive-wkx2xh329 - whats the problem fella?
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Doesn't matter how they die, if you eat chicken you can have no complaints.
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Terrible and apparently things like this happen thousands of times a year....so why has the Mail highlighted this case?

Because it's Halal and it gets people like the OP going. They're so predictable that the Mail can publish stories like this safe in the knowledge they'll be outraged and post it on social media and other sites. Well done OP for your Pavlovian response. Now stop drooling. X)
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Airfix is outraged again. X)

I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.

Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
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81 over the course of 4 months, they slaughter up to 100,000 per day.

Of course thats only the ones they know about, but I'm sure this happens in every slaughterhouse in the UK.

If you care about animal welfare you wouldn't eat any meat ever.
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Terrible and apparently things like this happen thousands of times a year....so why has the Mail highlighted this case?

Because it's Halal and it gets people like the OP going. They're so predictable that the Mail can publish stories like this safe in the knowledge they'll be outraged and post it on social media and other sites. Well done OP for your Pavlovian response. Now stop drooling. X)

And The Times?
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?

No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.

What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
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Sainsbury's said it had received assurances that its chicken was not affected by the factory error.

Phew! At least Sainsbury's chicken wasn't emotionally disturbed by the news.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.

Sentience.
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Doesn't matter how they die, if you eat chicken you can have no complaints.

Eh? That makes sense. I eat meat but want to know that during the slaughter it was done quickly and in a humane way. I wouldn't want to eat a chicken that had been forced to listed to Rick Astley till it dropped down dead.
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MrScotchBonnet
Doesn't matter how they die, if you eat chicken you can have no complaints.
Eh? That makes sense. I eat meat but want to know that during the slaughter it was done quickly and in a humane way. I wouldn't want to eat a chicken that had been forced to listed to Rick Astley till it dropped down dead.

You will never know how all of your meat has been slaughtered. It's pointless living on those ethics because you can't monitor anything.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.

Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
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As we are on the subject of chickens, a few weeks ago I bought a chicken and cooked it. When i carved it there was LOADS of dark red bits all the way through it. I took it back to Morrissons cos it looked disgusting, the butcher reckons it was from plucking but all the way through? I've noticed these bits since but no so bad, anyone else noticed this?
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Theres plenty of incidents at non halal abattoirs where animals are treated in a very very cruel manner but airfix don't post about those. Oh I forgot, this is about halal. Got ya airfix, keep it up buddy <3
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Theres plenty of incidents at non halal abattoirs where animals are treated in a very very cruel manner but airfix don't post about those. Oh I forgot, this is about halal. Got ya airfix, keep it up buddy <3
should each story mention non halal abbattoirs - that would be slight ludicrous wouldn't it?
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Theres plenty of incidents at non halal abattoirs where animals are treated in a very very cruel manner but airfix don't post about those. Oh I forgot, this is about halal. Got ya airfix, keep it up buddy <3

In The Times today? Must have missed them.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.

What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.

Edited By: Fred Smith on Dec 31, 2016 11:54
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Glad I buy my Halal Chicken from the butchers, where they kill the chicken themselves :)
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.

Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.

Like I said, what's arbitrary about it? BTW do at least try to reply to comments without attempting to denigrate your interlocutor.

Edited By: Fred Smith on Dec 31, 2016 12:08
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Glad I buy my Halal Chicken from the butchers, where they kill the chicken themselves :)

As do most Muslims I'll wager. This is the stuff destined to go on supermarket shelves with nary a mention that it's halal to feed the non-believers.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
Like I said, what's arbitrary about it?

Do the research. I'm not going to give you the temporary dopamine fix you need to mask the negative emotions by arguing further.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
Like I said, what's arbitrary about it?
Do the research. I'm not going to give you the temporary dopamine fix you need to mask the negative emotions by arguing further.

So no answer (BTW I added a bit, you should read my post again)
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
Like I said, what's arbitrary about it?
Do the research. I'm not going to give you the temporary dopamine fix you need to mask the negative emotions by arguing further.
Whats dopamine?
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
Like I said, what's arbitrary about it?
Do the research. I'm not going to give you the temporary dopamine fix you need to mask the negative emotions by arguing further.
Whats dopamine?

Something most,people learn about in year 10, around the same time they start learning about individual research.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
Like I said, what's arbitrary about it?
Do the research. I'm not going to give you the temporary dopamine fix you need to mask the negative emotions by arguing further.
Whats dopamine?
Something most,people learn about in year 10, around the same time they start learning about individual research.
cheers, that's the type of clear explanation I would expect from you.
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The only way to stop things like this happening is to vote with your wallet, if you are concerned about the welfare of the animals used for your food prior to slaughter then do your research and refuse to buy from shops that are not crystal clear on their packaging and make sure you let their customer services know as well.

If more consumers took responsibility for their decisions then the supermarkets would have to take note, this goes doubly for take away food, if you think the supermarkets are selling you junk meat i can only imagine what you are getting from your local Bangladeshi or Chinese take away or fried chicken fast food joint.
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
Like I said, what's arbitrary about it?
Do the research. I'm not going to give you the temporary dopamine fix you need to mask the negative emotions by arguing further.
Whats dopamine?
Something most,people learn about in year 10, around the same time they start learning about individual research.
cheers, that's the type of clear explanation I would expect from you.

You're on the internet, you read a word you don't understand and you don't google it yourself?

Sorry, but with the greatest respect that's odd.
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Doesn't matter how they die, if you eat chicken you can have no complaints.

If it doesn't matter, why were they fined?.
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Doesn't matter how they die, if you eat chicken you can have no complaints.
If it doesn't matter, why were they fined?.

To get to the other side?
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Airfix is outraged again. X)
I'd say concern for the suffering of vulnerable creatures entrusted to our care is a noble thing.
Personally I'd say the only justification for killing these animals in the 21'st Century is a religious one. Are you religious at all? Or is that something your not quite so keen to brag about?
No I'm not religious, but I am a hypocrite when it comes to animals. I donate to animal charities and love most animals, but I also eat a lot of meat as well as some quite 'cruel' foods.
What I find odd is that the Mail are profiling this story but have no problem pushing articles about the best lobsters on the market. Tell me the difference.
Sentience.
Arbitrary. But you'll disagree for the sake of it because that's what you do. Best for the new year Fred. Set some lofty goals and fit your life to your dreams, not the other way around.
What's arbitrary about it? Chickens are sentient and invertebrates such as lobsters are not.
Like I said, it's predictable. Maybe join a gym and sort out your sleep pattern. It'll help with the negative emotions.
Like I said, what's arbitrary about it?
Do the research. I'm not going to give you the temporary dopamine fix you need to mask the negative emotions by arguing further.
Whats dopamine?
Something most,people learn about in year 10, around the same time they start learning about individual research.
cheers, that's the type of clear explanation I would expect from you.

You're on the internet, you read a word you don't understand and you don't google it yourself?

Sorry, but with the greatest respect that's odd.


thanks you have been as helpful as I always knew you to be, Google is also helpful isn't it.

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