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Talking about violent video games on the Wright Stuff.

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5y, 7m agoPosted 5 years, 7 months ago
So funny watching four people who all admit they don't play video games trying to lay all societies ills at the feet of the video game industry.
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#1
The same as when The Life of Brian came out and the Church blasted it for blasphemy when they also admitted to not having seen it.
4 Likes #2
Haha. Always the same. "My son started trying to steal cars because of GTA".

No he did it because your a crap parent and didn't bring him up properly!
#3
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?

Maybe the influence easily suggestable people,

I know people who have played violent video, none of them have beat up a hooker with a baseball bat stole a car or ever even been in a fight with anyone. Its too easy to say uin

In the words of russel howard, does that mean we should blame chill out music for making people lazy?
1 Like #4
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?


Parenting?

If you believe that violent video games have an effect on kids then don't let your kids play them.

The doctor on the panel hasn't a clue. Some bloke phoned up saying he had played these games for thirty years and was balanced mentally the doctor stated that this didn't count as violent games had only been around for a couple of years. Tell that to me in 1993 blowing up crowds of bystanders in Syndicate.

Edited By: Ungreat on Apr 14, 2011 09:55
2 Likes #5
If you don't like it, get a job, then you wouldn't have to watch.
banned#6
Ungreat
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?


Parenting?

If you believe that violent video games have an effect on kids then don't let your kids play them.

The doctor on the panel hasn't a clue. Some bloke phoned up saying he had played these games for thirty years and was balanced mentally the doctor stated that this didn't count as violent games had only been around for a couple of years. Tell that to me in 1993 blowing up crowds of bystanders in Syndicate.


I blame parenting as well. Especially those loafing at home watching daytime TV. What type of lesson is that to teach children?


Edited By: JonnyTwoToes on Apr 14, 2011 09:58
#7
whatsThePoint
shosie
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?


Maybe the influence easily suggestable people,

I know people who have played violent video, none of them have beat up a hooker with a baseball bat stole a car or ever even been in a fight with anyone. Its too easy to say uin

In the words of russel howard, does that mean we should blame chill out music for making people lazy?


So your happy to accept violence in games if it only effects people you don't know :|


Rather than trolling, what's your point and opinion on it?
#8
Matthew wright and jeremy Kyle should be made to fight to the death.
Two of the most annoying people on telly.

The wright stuff makes me violent anytime I see it
I wanna lob my TV through the window.
Should we ban him?
#9
whatsThePoint
shosie
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?

Maybe the influence easily suggestable people,

I know people who have played violent video, none of them have beat up a hooker with a baseball bat stole a car or ever even been in a fight with anyone. Its too easy to say uin

In the words of russel howard, does that mean we should blame chill out music for making people lazy?

So your happy to accept violence in games if it only effects people you don't know :|

Not Neccesarily no. But like Ungreat said young children shouldnt be exposed to them the parents cant buy them and then complain that they are affecting them. People always want something to blame.

If video games rerally affected people why arent more people dressed as pumbers jumping on mushrooms?
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I was bought up (see what I did there?) with Doom & syndicate etc. Doctor says in a few years I'll be in the minimum security ward.
2 Likes #11
You mean they're talking about parents who let their 10 year old kids play 18 rated games. Nothing to do with the games. There is a cringe worthy interview that was on alan titchmarsh show before about violent games, 3 spud headed celebrities who didn't have a clue what was going on trying to form an argument.

Edited By: numptyj on Apr 14, 2011 10:13
#12
whatsThePoint
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shosie
whatsThePoint
shosie
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?

Maybe the influence easily suggestable people,

I know people who have played violent video, none of them have beat up a hooker with a baseball bat stole a car or ever even been in a fight with anyone. Its too easy to say uin

In the words of russel howard, does that mean we should blame chill out music for making people lazy?

So your happy to accept violence in games if it only effects people you don't know :|

Not Neccesarily no. But like Ungreat said young children shouldnt be exposed to them the parents cant buy them and then complain that they are affecting them. People always want something to blame.

If video games rerally affected people why arent more people dressed as pumbers jumping on mushrooms?

:| just because you don't know them it doesn't mean they aren't out there
http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/7691/photos/PHOTO_10419656_7691_4775452_ap_320X240.jpg


Touche Well played.
banned#13
Violent games definitely an influence on children, the same as films and TV. It's down to parenting.

Really annoyed that there are children in my 6 yr old Son's class playing CoD.
#14
Saying that, as negative as they were about video games the UK has a long way to go until the can hit the sheer mentalness of the US and specifically Fox news.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kdm7fg804&feature=related
Side of an alien boob. X)
#15
whatsThePoint
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shosie
whatsThePoint
shosie
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?


Maybe the influence easily suggestable people,

I know people who have played violent video, none of them have beat up a hooker with a baseball bat stole a car or ever even been in a fight with anyone. Its too easy to say uin

In the words of russel howard, does that mean we should blame chill out music for making people lazy?


So your happy to accept violence in games if it only effects people you don't know :|


Not Neccesarily no. But like Ungreat said young children shouldnt be exposed to them the parents cant buy them and then complain that they are affecting them. People always want something to blame.

If video games rerally affected people why arent more people dressed as pumbers jumping on mushrooms?


:| just because you don't know them it doesn't mean they aren't out there
http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/7691/photos/PHOTO_10419656_7691_4775452_ap_320X240.jpg



answer the question please and stop avoiding it
banned#16
master_chief
Violent games definitely an influence on children, the same as films and TV. It's down to parenting.

Really annoyed that there are children in my 6 yr old Son's class playing CoD.


Of course they're an influence - I don't know if that means they're definitely going to negatively influence them though.

Media definitely influenced me. But I think the issue is 'desensitising' and I'd say the biggest thing to have done that is the news. Constant tragedies and disasters mean something like the Japan earthquake had literally no impact on me. It was just the latest disaster (of course for people affected it wasn't).
banned 1 Like #17
After a session on Mario, my Son goes around saying (in accent) "Itsa Maaaario"...
2 Likes #18
whatsThePoint
Ungreat
whatsThePoint
So what do you blame instead?

Parenting?

If you believe that violent video games have an effect on kids then don't let your kids play them.

The doctor on the panel hasn't a clue. Some bloke phoned up saying he had played these games for thirty years and was balanced mentally the doctor stated that this didn't count as violent games had only been around for a couple of years.


That wouldn't be the parents that were brought up themselves on violent games and now see it as it as acceptable by any chance

Can only really go on my own experiences here. I have played video games since I was a child, so probably 25 years; there's no way I would let my son play a COD or GTA game for example, it has a 15 or 18 certificate for a reason.

My brother-in-law is slightly older and has never played video games, he doesn't know what content games like COD have and he will happily let his 8 year old and 12 year old play COD; he thinks they are like a cartoon.So I actually think parents who have grown up playing vieo games are often more aware of the violent content of some games than non-gaming parents.


Edited By: stewby on Apr 14, 2011 10:27
2 Likes #19
It's the "Won't someone please think of the children!" attitude we seem to have in this country that really annoys me. This idea that everything has to go through this child friendly societal filter rather than parents taking responsibility for their own offspring.
#20
well ive spent my life in a darken room listening to acid popping pills and being chased by ghosts ..... as if video games influencxe life
#21
Was it as cringe worthy as when they spoke about computer games on Alan Titchmarsh a while back? I don't think they could have tried any harder to have a biased/ill-informed discussion.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/video.php?id=4258
#22
Lots of people jumping on the Parenting band wagon, Kids downfall isn't always about the parents, reality is you can't pin it on one thing. Parents can ban the child games, the child goes to a friends house, plays the games there. Parents ground the child, the child will find other ways of sneaking out the house, or finding a way to play these games. You can't keep a child locked away 24/7, it's only going to make them more curious and determined to play these games, so what do you do!?
#23
freeDUMB
Was it as cringe worthy as when they spoke about computer games on Alan Titchmarsh a while back? I don't think they could have tried any harder to have a biased/ill-informed discussion.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/video.php?id=4258


Wow.......just wow. oO
#24
jasonodell
Lots of people jumping on the Parenting band wagon, Kids downfall isn't always about the parents, reality is you can't pin it on one thing. Parents can ban the child games, the child goes to a friends house, plays the games there. Parents ground the child, the child will find other ways of sneaking out the house, or finding a way to play these games. You can't keep a child locked away 24/7, it's only going to make them more curious and determined to play these games, so what do you do!?

But this why if parents in general were more responsible then this wouldn't happen as the mates house wouldn't have the games either as their parents wouldn't allow their kids to play them. At the end of the day it is up to the parents to take responsibility for their OWN KIDS. And I think your kid has deeper mental issues if he sneaks out the house to try and find somewhere to play a videogame.
#25
autolesbona
jasonodell
Lots of people jumping on the Parenting band wagon, Kids downfall isn't always about the parents, reality is you can't pin it on one thing. Parents can ban the child games, the child goes to a friends house, plays the games there. Parents ground the child, the child will find other ways of sneaking out the house, or finding a way to play these games. You can't keep a child locked away 24/7, it's only going to make them more curious and determined to play these games, so what do you do!?


But this why if parents in general were more responsible then this wouldn't happen as the mates house wouldn't have the games either as their parents wouldn't allow their kids to play them. At the end of the day it is up to the parents to take responsibility for their OWN KIDS. And I think your kid has deeper mental issues if he sneaks out the house to try and find somewhere to play a videogame.


I don't have any children, Most people are 1 directional. Not looking at a complete story...

Edit *Also, I find that pretty offensive that you're all for judging every post. I'd like to see you walk into a school playground and criticise every parent there.*



Edited By: jasonodell on Apr 14, 2011 11:40
banned 1 Like #26
jasonodell
Lots of people jumping on the Parenting band wagon, Kids downfall isn't always about the parents, reality is you can't pin it on one thing. Parents can ban the child games, the child goes to a friends house, plays the games there. Parents ground the child, the child will find other ways of sneaking out the house, or finding a way to play these games. You can't keep a child locked away 24/7, it's only going to make them more curious and determined to play these games, so what do you do!?


You're missing the point. It's not about stopping them from playing the games, but making sure they're able to contextualise what they see.

My parents didn't have a problem with violent films, but they made sure I understood how the special effects were created.
#27
FilthAndFurry
jasonodell
Lots of people jumping on the Parenting band wagon, Kids downfall isn't always about the parents, reality is you can't pin it on one thing. Parents can ban the child games, the child goes to a friends house, plays the games there. Parents ground the child, the child will find other ways of sneaking out the house, or finding a way to play these games. You can't keep a child locked away 24/7, it's only going to make them more curious and determined to play these games, so what do you do!?


You're missing the point. It's not about stopping them from playing the games, but making sure they're able to contextualise what they see.

My parents didn't have a problem with violent films, but they made sure I understood how the special effects were created.


Agreed
banned#28
FilthAndFurry
jasonodell
Lots of people jumping on the Parenting band wagon, Kids downfall isn't always about the parents, reality is you can't pin it on one thing. Parents can ban the child games, the child goes to a friends house, plays the games there. Parents ground the child, the child will find other ways of sneaking out the house, or finding a way to play these games. You can't keep a child locked away 24/7, it's only going to make them more curious and determined to play these games, so what do you do!?

You're missing the point. It's not about stopping them from playing the games, but making sure they're able to contextualise what they see.

My parents didn't have a problem with violent films, but they made sure I understood how the special effects were created.

What age were you when your parents allowed you to watch a violent film or was you brought up from TV viewing age onwards?
banned#29
master_chief
FilthAndFurry
jasonodell
Lots of people jumping on the Parenting band wagon, Kids downfall isn't always about the parents, reality is you can't pin it on one thing. Parents can ban the child games, the child goes to a friends house, plays the games there. Parents ground the child, the child will find other ways of sneaking out the house, or finding a way to play these games. You can't keep a child locked away 24/7, it's only going to make them more curious and determined to play these games, so what do you do!?


You're missing the point. It's not about stopping them from playing the games, but making sure they're able to contextualise what they see.

My parents didn't have a problem with violent films, but they made sure I understood how the special effects were created.


What age were you when your parents allowed you to watch a violent film or was you brought up from TV viewing age onwards?


I have no idea. I remember seeing Robocop when I was about 8 or 9-ish. The scene where Murphy is shot was the only scene I recall my mother fast-forwarding through.
#30
jasonodell
I don't have any children, Most people are 1 directional. Not looking at a complete story...

Edit *Also, I find that pretty offensive that you're all for judging every post. I'd like to see you walk into a school playground and criticise every parent there.*

WTF is that supposed to mean? I just find these arguments rather lame as I fail to understand why a videogame should be banned or censored on the possibility that some kid who is under the rating of the game gets hold of it. Should this mean we should ban all food with sugar or fat in it on the possibility that someone might become obese? or how about we ban all cars as that way no one will get run over. Or why don't we just ban everything on TV apart from some toddler programs as that way everyone will be safe.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN


Edited By: autolesbona on Apr 14, 2011 11:54
2 Likes #31
Parents who blame their children's behaviour on video games are disgusting. Just because they didn't know how to control their child and didn't bring them up accordingly, they try to find something to shift the blame from themselves... and of course - they are in denial about it.

I was probably younger than 3 years old when I first started playing games (thanks to my 3 older brothers) and my earliest memory of video games includes an 18+ rated game called Mortal Kombat (which I will refer to as MK) on the Sega Mega Drive. MK was a heavily violent video game, supernatural beings beating the **** out of each other while gallons of blood, limbs and organs fly in every direction - Just to remind you, I was at least 4 or 5 playing this game and many others.

SO. Using your logic (who ever blames video games for children's bad behaviour etc), as a 21 year old married man, I should really be a psychopath who got in trouble in school for dozens of fights, and after being kicked out from school I became a murderer.

Well guess what? NO. Because I was raised properly and my parents weren't afraid to lay a hand on me when I stepped out of line or did the bad thing, they were always quick to teach me rights from wrongs.

To parents who blame video games/music/films for their children ASBO behaviour **** you. You're not worthy parents.
2 Likes #32
Probably best to ban alcohol as well. Causes more trouble than video games.
#33
dungavel
Probably best to ban alcohol as well. Causes more trouble than video games.


I still don't understand how alcohol is legal to be honest. Seriously.
#34
mus_ne
dungavel
Probably best to ban alcohol as well. Causes more trouble than video games.


I still don't understand how alcohol is legal to be honest. Seriously.


The Scots would riot otherwise.
banned#35
mus_ne
dungavel
Probably best to ban alcohol as well. Causes more trouble than video games.


I still don't understand how alcohol is legal to be honest. Seriously.


Because it's awesome.
1 Like #36
First it was rock music then it was video nasties, rap music, violent TV, the internet and now video games.

I'm sure i've missed a few out there but all of these have at one time or another been scape-goated as the source of all youth violence problems. People are always trying to shift the blame elsewhere or have this rose tinted view of the past as this thing of calm and piece to aspire to while mentally editing out the bad parts.
#37
That Tichmarsh interview was hilarious.

The video game guy spent the whole time saying kids shouldn't be playing them but they just didn't listen. He seemed a bit exasperated when they asked him if he would let his kids play, err, no, that's kind of what he's been saying throughout....

I played a reasonable amount of violent games,Mortal Kombat, Streets of Rage (although you're the police so not sure how that works) GTA (the originals) etc. To be fair my parents didn't know much about the games, had they have known they may not have let me play them.

When my daughter gets older I may let her play them, depends on the person, the game etc. But I believe I will play games with her, much more valuable than when I was a kid and I was just in my room alone playing them
#38
I wonder what video games the vikings let their kids play before they went raping and pillaging. gta copenhagen?
#39
The guy that killed all them prostitutes in Ipswich a year or two back didn't play video games.
That's the reason I let my son play Call Of Duty and GTA. I'm taking no chances.
#40
ants97
I wonder what video games the vikings let their kids play before they went raping and pillaging. gta copenhagen?

I believe it was Call Of Duty: Old Skool Rape-age

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