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9y, 2w agoPosted 9 years, 2 weeks ago
also what is the pay per yr?
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9y, 2w agoPosted 9 years, 2 weeks ago
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Are you serious?

Go on to http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/ it tells you all about it....
Its not the sort of thing you do for the Pay! (but will be detailed on site)

Quick fire thoughts:
Would you join as a officer or a normal soldier?
What sort of unit are you interested in?
Can you invest the time?
Are you fit enough?
How would you feel if you were posted to Iraq?
How would your employer feel?
Any specific skills for a specific unit?
Any medical issues?

Its a serious consideration and if I was you I'd do loads of research, if your at Uni there are OTC's which would be a lot better for you.
Overall the key question is what is your motivation to join the TA, this will impact your expectations.
#2
http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/Benefits/Pay+Pensions+and+Allowances/Territorial+Army.htm


could have really googled and got what you wanted.

Visit

http://www.arrse.co.uk/

a site set up by soldiers for soldiers, i've seen quite a few people posting questions on there and getting real answers back from people who have been there and done it.
Might help you
banned#3
crow99;1848242
Are you serious?

Go on to http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/ it tells you all about it....
Its not the sort of thing you do for the Pay! (but will be detailed on site)

Quick fire thoughts:
Would you join as a officer or a normal soldier?
What sort of unit are you interested in?
Can you invest the time?
Are you fit enough?
How would you feel if you were posted to Iraq?
How would your employer feel?
Any specific skills for a specific unit?
Any medical issues?

Its a serious consideration and if I was you I'd do loads of research, if your at Uni there are OTC's which would be a lot better for you.
Overall the key question is what is your motivation to join the TA, this will impact your expectations.

top advice. My brother tried it but was not up to it as a little shy and the others all seemed really hyperactive and a bit mad (his words).
#4
ok well I'm in college and care about the pay because of a part time job that could be sacrificed. I am wondering if anybody is in the ta? The pay is quite vague..and I would rather be an officer than soldier.
#5
stratomaster
http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/Benefits/Pay+Pensions+and+Allowances/Territorial+Army.htm


could have really googled and got what you wanted.

Visit

http://www.arrse.co.uk/

a site set up by soldiers for soldiers, i've seen quite a few people posting questions on there and getting real answers back from people who have been there and done it.
Might help you


I did google it but wanted other peoples thoughts/experience
#6
crow99
Are you serious?

Go on to http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/ it tells you all about it....
Its not the sort of thing you do for the Pay! (but will be detailed on site)

Quick fire thoughts:
Would you join as a officer or a normal soldier?
What sort of unit are you interested in?
Can you invest the time?
Are you fit enough?
How would you feel if you were posted to Iraq?
How would your employer feel?
Any specific skills for a specific unit?
Any medical issues?

Its a serious consideration and if I was you I'd do loads of research, if your at Uni there are OTC's which would be a lot better for you.
Overall the key question is what is your motivation to join the TA, this will impact your expectations.

I couldn't agree with this advice more, it's not a decission to be taken lightly. I have known two people who were in the TA when they had to be posted to Iraq (they were both doc's and needed for their extra skills) they both had young children, one guy was so scared he got out of it on medical grounds, something to do with migraine, the other guy had to go leaving behind his wife and three kids, all under five, one a baby under 6mths.....think seriously about this. If it's what you want to do - then good luck.
#7
try vistsing your local careers officer, they'll be able to give you all the info you need and get the ball rolling on your application
1 Like #8
My hubby is in the TA and to be honest if your 1st question is the pay then it's not for you as it's not a lot.
the pay is £30 a day so the evenings that you attend are a quarter of that and weekends are full days if you complete a quota for the year certain weekends included you get a bonus depending on your rank and training completed.
Be aware that being in the TA means you train to be a qualified british soldier and will be deployed for 6 months at a time
#9
so you can't pull out of going on duty? What is the yearly pay?
#10
dmissy13
My hubby is in the TA and to be honest if your 1st question is the pay then it's not for you as it's not a lot.
the pay is £30 a day so the evenings that you attend are a quarter of that and weekends are full days if you complete a quota for the year certain weekends included you get a bonus depending on your rank and training completed.
Be aware that being in the TA means you train to be a qualified british soldier and will be deployed for 6 months at a time


thanks rep added
#11
They train you for war if you don't want to go don't join and waste the army's money it's not a social club.
The pay is as i said £30 a day how much you get each year depends on how many evenings and weekends you attend and weekends start on a Friday night most of the time
#12
:viking:
#13
If you're in college is there a Army Cadets corps (or Combined Cadets) near by? These are part of the TA.

My daughter joined when she was at 6th form college and loved it and was all set to join the Adjutant Generals Corps after university (Military Police)

She carried on the Army stuff into University, where she joined the Officer Training Corps.

While she was at Uni she did start with a part time job, but we did the sums and what she was getting from the army in payment for attending once or twice a week, plus odd weekends and monthly camps, plus the benefits in kind: all food, clothes, allowances, travel, subsidised bar, etc., came to the same value as she was getting from the part time job, PLUS she was getting paid for doing something she enjoyed.

In the end she thought it through a bit further and reckoned a military career as such would have been great but that it would become intrusive later on, when families and children began to figure.

She'd been interested in the civilian police as well, but ended up joining the MOD Police and has - so far, touch wood - enjoyed it.
#14
ciazman
ok well I'm in college and care about the pay because of a part time job that could be sacrificed. I am wondering if anybody is in the ta? The pay is quite vague..and I would rather be an officer than soldier.


Are you thinking of going to University? Presume college is A/AS Levels?
If so where are you thinking of going?

When I was at University I joined the ULOTC (University of London Officer Training Corps)

This is a "unit" in the TA but with a few major differences:
Its not a operational unit and as such you would never be posted to Iraq etc.. as you are "Group B" which means you will only be used in a direct invasion of British Soil type scenario.
Secondly its meant more as a PR Unit for the TA, with the theory being that the members are more than likely to go on to hold Snr Mgmt positions in their choosen industry and will have a great view of the TA and support the Army and any employees who are members.

This comes with a number of benefits, mainly that you get to do some great activites in my time with the ULOTC:
I got to do a Parachute Jump on my own (paid a few quid but got paid for being there)
Did lots of Scuba diving work (in pools but could have goine aborad)
Got to go on specialist training courses with other units of the Army

All of that is aside form the leadership, friendship, and maturity which it brought to me.
It was a huge work hard play hard society with lots of like minded people.

That send I have friends who went onto to the TA some as officers and some as soldiers and there experiences are quiet varied.

If your at college I would wait and look at one of the OTC units near your university etc..
#15
oh ok, thanks, so you would not reccomend it?
#16
dmissy13
My hubby is in the TA and to be honest if your 1st question is the pay then it's not for you as it's not a lot.
the pay is £30 a day so the evenings that you attend are a quarter of that and weekends are full days if you complete a quota for the year certain weekends included you get a bonus depending on your rank and training completed.
Be aware that being in the TA means you train to be a qualified british soldier and will be deployed for 6 months at a time


Yep, its incidental money that covers a meal youmight have missed some travel and then the rest afterwards will be spent in the bar and in a OTC unit like mine extra trips!!

ciazman
so you can't pull out of going on duty? What is the yearly pay?


It is paid per day as depends on how many sessions you attend.
No you cant pull out of duty, you take the Queen's shilling you better be prepared to fight for it.

stratomaster
try vistsing your local careers officer, they'll be able to give you all the info you need and get the ball rolling on your application


Sound advice, just dont sign anything there and then.
Really think a OTC would be best for you

dmissy13
They train you for war if you don't want to go don't join and waste the army's money it's not a social club.
The pay is as i said £30 a day how much you get each year depends on how many evenings and weekends you attend and weekends start on a Friday night most of the time


Couldn't agree more it adds a huge social element but you have to remember while your there to be part of the most professional army in the world, high standards.

ciazman
oh ok, thanks, so you would not reccomend it?


Your above posts shows that your knowledge is very very limited so I dont think you know enough to join a operational unit at the moment and it could also impact your studies in a major way (i.e. getting psted to Basra).

I would see if its a passing fancy if not go to a uni near a OTC and join that, but remember the Army isnt all glitz and glam! I loved in and if I could (medical reasons) would still be there.
#17
was in for 9 years fantastic experience i guess u should decide your interests
banned#18
Maybe the first question you should ask yourself is "could I kill another human being?"
#19
As an ex-regular, I can offer you some advice.

The TA, more and more, is being relied on to fill spaces caused by 'over-stretch' (as the officials call it!). This means, that whereas before you could be in the TA for years & do nothing the chances are now that you will end up somewhere - even if you don't get as far as Afghanistan you will end up in germany covering for someone else who was sent.

As for the pay, you will get the same as the Regular Army BUT the Regular Army get a daily rate of pay, determined by rank - this is what you will get but only for the days spent 'on duty'. So you cannot count on it as another form of income. For training nights you will get some expenses refunded, but in reality this is not a lot (it's not supposed to be - it's only supposed to cover expenses).

SO...if you're looking for a way of making money - choose something else.
If you're looking for a new hobby, choose something else.
If you're interested in joining the Army but don't want to make the full commitment, join the TA.

As others have said, vist arrse, visit a careers office, visit your local TA Centre during a training night, then make up your mind.

Good luck, whatever you decide.
#20
You said that you would rather go in as an officer, then this deffinetly isn't the move for you. It's not that easy to become an officer. My cousin is an officer in the army, she has a degree, and trained at Sandhurst, and her training still isn't over.
#21
Kitten13
You said that you would rather go in as an officer, then this deffinetly isn't the move for you. It's not that easy to become an officer. My cousin is an officer in the army, she has a degree, and trained at Sandhurst, and her training still isn't over.
:?:?
#22
Haha crow, funnily enough i wouldn't be posting if my knowledge was complete would i? surely thats the point of questions to expand ones knowledge?
#23
csiman
Maybe the first question you should ask yourself is "could I kill another human being?"


Surely a lot of the time its not reaaallly about that?
1 Like #24
Maybe the first question you should ask yourself is "could I kill another human being?"

Surely a lot of the time its not reaaallly about that?


"I didn't join the Army to fight!" lol!

Seriously, though, ciazman, if you join then you are first and foremost a soldier. Regardless of what trade you have, you are still a soldier, and will still be expected to carry out soldierly activities.

During my 22 years I never fired a weapon in anger, but then again all my mates did at some time or other, so it's POSSIBLE that you won't have to shoot at someone but that doesn't mean you won't have to.

You will spend months at a time doing nothing then spend 5 minutes trying to stay alive. During those 5 minutes it's no good saying that you didn't really think that you would have to shoot at someone else.
#25
ciazman
Haha crow, funnily enough i wouldn't be posting if my knowledge was complete would i? surely thats the point of questions to expand ones knowledge?


No offence but anyone thinking of joing the Army as a officer that doesnt know the basics and first stop off is a deals forum isn't going to do to well at Sandhurst.

I understand your point but the basic research could have been done before posting

ciazman
Surely a lot of the time its not reaaallly about that?


cis_groupie has covered this, more than 70% of the Army isn't infantry but the whole point of the Army is the ability to defend our ways and its more about being prepared to if you have to.

Could you leave tommorow and go on a six month tour of Basra?
How would you feel patrolling in Bosnia at the height of ethnic Cleansing?
#26
Join the Royal Marine Reserve, no women!
#27
Haha crow, funnily enough i wouldn't be posting if my knowledge was complete would i? surely thats the point of questions to expand ones knowledge?

but the only real question you asked was pay?!
#28
Paddy_o_furniture
Join the Royal Marine Reserve, no women!


Booo.... "God is Airborne!" lets have no but he failed response please :thumbsup:
banned#29
All TA / ex army are madmen seriously every single one I've met have been completely loopy! they just can't survive in the real world
#30
if your even slightly wanting to get paid you should not be wanting to join the ta really, for the love of your country man ;)
#31
crow99;1849141
Booo.... "God is Airborne!" lets have no but he failed response please :thumbsup:

Green beret is alot harder, everyone knows that!
God don't exist my friend, if he did, he'd of failed!

Forgot to mention that fact the the Paras heavn't been in user in a Airborne (not air assualt) role since suez. No need for them these days. And lets not get into SAS vs SBS
#32
Take up airsoft it much more fun :)
#33
csiman
Maybe the first question you should ask yourself is "could I kill another human being?"


Could I kill another human being that has a gun and wants to kill me????
Yea no probs :-D
#34
my mate done it for a summer job thing (they like trained him but he cant go away to fight) and they taught him how to drive
#35
my mate done it for a summer job thing (they like trained him but he cant go away to fight) and they taught him how to drive

so he didn't complete the trainning and spent the summer wasting the Army's time and money getting his driving lisence and we wonder why they are short of supplies on the front line!
#36
dmissy13
so he didn't complete the trainning and spent the summer wasting the Army's time and money getting his driving lisence and we wonder why they are short of supplies on the front line!

Good point.
#37
dmissy13
so he didn't complete the trainning and spent the summer wasting the Army's time and money getting his driving lisence and we wonder why they are short of supplies on the front line!


if war comes to the uk he has to fight
he is still at uni just now but when he finishes i think hes going to join
#38
(they like trained him but he cant go away to fight)


if war comes to the uk he has to fight
he is still at uni just now but when he finishes i think hes going to join


it's either one or the other and if you are fully trained in the TA you get deployed anywhere not just sit waiting for war in the UK. How can he join after he's finished UNI if he's already with them?

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