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Terry Pratchett starts process to take his own life

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banned5y, 5m agoPosted 5 years, 5 months ago
Brave man, i guess?
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Sir Terry Pratchett, the fantasy writer who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 2008, said yesterday he had started the formal process that could lead to his own assisted suicide at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland.

Pratchett, whose BBC2 film about the subject of assisted suicide is to be shown on BBC2 tomorrow, revealed he had been sent the consent forms requesting a suicide by the clinic and planned to sign them imminently.

"The only thing stopping me [signing them] is that I have made this film and I have a bloody book to finish," he said during a question-and-answer session following a screening at the Sheffield documentary festival Doc/Fest.

He said that he decided to start the process after making the film Terry Pratchett: Choosing to Die, which shows the moment of death of a motor neurone sufferer, millionaire hotel owner Peter Smedley.

Pratchett, the creator of the Discworld novels who was 60 when he was diagnosed, said his decision to start the formal process did not necessarily mean he was going to take his own life.

According to Dignitas, 70% of people who sign the forms do not go through with taking their own lives.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/12/pratchett-starts-process-to-end-his-life
suspended 6 Likes #2
I don't really see ending ones life as brave. I think it takes a braver man to carry on with life.
25 Likes #3
^^^^
Generic response. The guy is living with a horrible illness. If he chooses to end it now before things get so bad he loses all memory of everything that makes him the person he is, and chooses not to burden his family with something that will hurt them unimaginably as the years go by, why does that make him not brave???
2 Likes #4
Very sad end to a legend
suspended 3 Likes #5
gbspurs
^^^^
Generic response. The guy is living with a horrible illness. If he chooses to end it now before things get so bad he loses all memory of everything that makes him the person he is, and chooses not to burden his family with something that will hurt them unimaginably as the years go by, why does that make him not brave???

I am well aware he is living with a horrible illness and there is a high chance that in his postion that I would do the same. Thoughtful maybe but it's certainly not brave.

Edited By: Hissy Miss on Jun 12, 2011 17:14
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Hissy Miss
I don't really see ending ones life as brave. I think it takes a braver man to carry on with life.


Another person that wears utopian rose tinted world vision spectacles. I have been desperately looking for a pair of these for years. Does anyone know if specsavers have them in stock!
3 Likes #7
Depends on your definition of brave. To sacrifice your life for the benefit of others is brave in my book.
banned 2 Likes #8
Hissy Miss
gbspurs
^^^^
Generic response. The guy is living with a horrible illness. If he chooses to end it now before things get so bad he loses all memory of everything that makes him the person he is, and chooses not to burden his family with something that will hurt them unimaginably as the years go by, why does that make him not brave???


I am well aware he is living with a horrible illness and there is a high chance that in his postion that I would do the same. Thoughtful maybe but it's certainly not brave.


Choosing the time when you will breath no more? Yep, a braver man than me could make that decision.
suspended 4 Likes #9
Well we'll have to agree to disagree. I see it as taking the easy way out.

Even at that, dignitas, to me is more for people who want to take their own life but cant and dont want to get family involved. He is still in a position where he could easily take his own life. If he really wanted to do it, all he has to do is pop a few pills or jump of a bridge, people do it every day.
7 Likes #10
I don't really see ending ones life as brave. I think it takes a braver man to carry on with life.

A typical response from someone who has not had to sit and witness the heartbreaking decline of a family member to this b*stard disease!

Watching my Nana, a fiercely independant lady succomb to Alzhiemers over a 3 year period was a living hell. Not only for us, but for her too....especially in the early days when she was still aware of what was going on. I can still remember sitting in front of her looking into her eyes and willing her to show some sort of recognition.....she never did!

Confined to a wheelchair, unable to toilet herself or feed herself....my Nana would have been beyond mortified if she'd have known how she would end her days. So please don't come out with the 'takes a braver man to carry on crap'....you have no idea what you are talking about!

I can say hand on heart that if I was to ever have the diagnosis I would do away with myself, not for me becos' I know I'd soon not give a toss where I was but so that I never had to put my family through the utter devastation and pain we went thru' as Alzhiemers took my dear Nana from us.

It's NEVER an easy way out!

Edited By: luvvlychocolate on Jun 12, 2011 17:23
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I'm pretty sure people want a dignified death with an injection surrounded by doctors pain free.

Who wants to jump off a bridge, have someone find your body, and then have to put there family through the pain of identifying the presumably mangled corpse of there loved one??? Think before you continue to post rubbish about stuff you obviously have no idea about.
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luvvlychocolate
I don't really see ending ones life as brave. I think it takes a braver man to carry on with life.

A typical response from someone who has not had to sit and witness the heartbreaking decline of a family member to this b*stard disease!

Watching my Nana, a fiercely independant lady succomb to Alzhiemers over a 3 year period was a living hell. Not only for us, but for her too....especially in the early days when she was still aware of what was going on. I can still remember sitting in front of her looking into her eyes and willing her to show some sort of recognition.....she never did!

Confined to a wheelchair, unable to toilet herself or feed herself....my Nana would have been beyond mortified if she'd have known how she would end her days. So please don't come out with the 'takes a braver man to carry on crap'....you have no idea what you are talking about!

I can say hand on heart that if I was to ever have the diagnosis I would do away with myself, not for me becos' I know I'd soon not give a toss where I was but so that I never had to put my family through the utter devastation and pain we went thru' as Alzhiemers took my dear Nana from us.

It's NEVER an easy way out!

So you know me? Do you ****!

At least I can write an opinion and know that it may differ from others but for you to write such **** as fact?

How do you know I don't know anyone it's happened to and dont know what I'm talking about?

Go boo hoo your wee heart out and dont try hitting me with your psychic emotional ****.
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gbspurs
I'm pretty sure people want a dignified death with an injection surrounded by doctors pain free.

Who wants to jump off a bridge, have someone find your body, and then have to put there family through the pain of identifying the presumably mangled corpse of there loved one??? Think before you continue to post rubbish about stuff you obviously have no idea about.


If you knew what you were talking about then you'd know it's not pain free. Do you think everyone should think the same as you? We should all be little sheep and go through life thinking the same as our peers?
banned 2 Likes #14
^^^^^ Hissy fit?
suspended 2 Likes #15
aye, that's right.
5 Likes #16
I'm happy for you to have an opinion, feel free to continue to look stupid it's fine by me. It's fine to disagree with assisted suicide but to call someone cowardly for taking that option and then suggesting that he would be better jumping off a bridge just makes it sound like you haven't got a clue what you are on about. That's just my opinion
3 Likes #17
So you know me? Do you ****!

At least I can write an opinion and know that it may differ from others but for you to write such **** as fact?

How do you know I don't know anyone it's happened to and dont know what I'm talking about?

Go boo hoo your wee heart out and dont try hitting me with your psychic emotional ****.

No, I don't know you...thank God!!!!

ANYONE who's sat and watched someone close affected by Alzhiemers knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about! Psychic emotional ****? Jeez, listen to yourself will you! I've obviously hit a nerve haven't I that you ain't got a sodding clue what Alzhiemers entails for either patient or family!!!

No need to 'boo hoo my wee heart out' but thanks for giving me permission to do so you pathetic waste of an opinion!!

As for me writing such **** as fact......I lived with it for 3 years love so yes, it is FACT!!!!!





Edited By: luvvlychocolate on Jun 12, 2011 17:44
banned#18
gbspurs
I'm happy for you to have an opinion, feel free to continue to look stupid it's fine by me. It's fine to disagree with assisted suicide but to call someone cowardly for taking that option and then suggesting that he would be better jumping off a bridge just makes it sound like you haven't got a clue what you are on about. That's just my opinion


And one that the majority of decent people would agree with.
banned#19
I like Hissy's style, provoking debate by using extreme points of view always makes things interesting.
#20
It's OK everyone don't get so upset. He said he's not doing it yet as he's got a film out and a book to finish.
suspended 2 Likes #21
LOL, I am far from stupid but undersatnd why others here may think so, and its not because thety are smart.

brave/brāv/
Adjective: Ready to face and endure danger or pain; showing courage.
Noun: People who are ready to face and endure danger or pain.

What scares you most? Death or living with alzheimer's. For me and I'm sure most, it would be the later. Therefor selecting death as an option would be the easiest and therefor not the bravest.

Easy enough to understand but some are too ignorant to see anothers view point.
banned#22
He's a talentless hack anyway...
banned#23
Choosing a single definition of a word to back an argument is always a bit foolish mind.
suspended 1 Like #24
Its 2 and I just gave the google answer, didn't want to go into any further as it doesn't matter how many i gave.
2 Likes #25
speaking from a health professional point of view, Alzhiemers is a horrific disease not for the person suffering from the condition but for their families, it is heart breaking to see a husband not recognise his wife of 50 years or even his own children, if i ever got that way i think i would prefer to end it, but thats just my view
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Hissy Miss
Its 2 and I just gave the google answer, didn't want to go into any further as it doesn't matter how many i gave.


You gave the adjective and the noun of the same definition, hardly counts as two.
2 Likes #27
synderella
speaking from a health professional point of view, Alzhiemers is a horrific disease not for the person suffering from the condition but for their families, it is heart breaking to see a husband not recognise his wife of 50 years or even his own children, if i ever got that way i think i would prefer to end it, but thats just my view

Be a bonus if you hated your wife and kids though X)
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master_chief
He's a talentless hack anyway...



http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/w1nt3r/Forum%20Ammo/598946-troll_funny_pic_super-1.jpg
suspended 1 Like #29
master_chief
Hissy Miss
Its 2 and I just gave the google answer, didn't want to go into any further as it doesn't matter how many i gave.

You gave the adjective and the noun of the same definition, hardly counts as two.

Fair point. silly me.
banned 1 Like #30
fox2020
master_chief
He's a talentless hack anyway...



http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/w1nt3r/Forum%20Ammo/598946-troll_funny_pic_super-1.jpg


Ha ha, I was just messing. Though I can't stand his books, he's obviously good at what he does.
#31
Shengis
synderella
speaking from a health professional point of view, Alzhiemers is a horrific disease not for the person suffering from the condition but for their families, it is heart breaking to see a husband not recognise his wife of 50 years or even his own children, if i ever got that way i think i would prefer to end it, but thats just my view

Be a bonus if you hated your wife and kids though X)

pmsl, yeah true
#32
master_chief
fox2020
master_chief
He's a talentless hack anyway...



http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/w1nt3r/Forum%20Ammo/598946-troll_funny_pic_super-1.jpg


Ha ha, I was just messing. Though I can't stand his books, he's obviously good at what he does.


;)
#33
So lets consider. Going to certain death or going to a care home where you'll be (according to Panorama) bullied and tortured till you die. You wouldn't complain in the latter case as by the time somebody arrived to complain to you'd have forgotten. Which is braver.
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synderella
speaking from a health professional point of view, Alzhiemers is a horrific disease not for the person suffering from the condition but for their families, it is heart breaking to see a husband not recognise his wife of 50 years or even his own children, if i ever got that way i think i would prefer to end it, but thats just my view

Totally agree ^^^^

I was a palliative care nurse for many years, one of the hospices I worked in had a lady who had Alzhiemers who also had terminal cancer as a patient, every 40-50 mins she would ask where her husband was, the grief she went through everytime we had to tell her he'd passed away was heartbreaking, in the end her daughters gave us permission to say he'd nipped to the shops. My own grandmother suffered from dementia, she doted on her family in her life, for her not to recognise any of us in the last 6 months and to actually be scared of her daughter was traumatic to say the least, you wouldn't allow an animal to suffer like that.
I love Terry Pratchett books, he has a very clever and complex mind, I would personaly prefer the method he's advocated before as he way off this earth, a good malt whisky laced with a little something, sitting in his beloved garden and falling asleep, the fact he's probably having to go the route he's doing is to protect his family from our stupid legal system
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master_chief
I like Hissy's style, provoking debate by using extreme points of view always makes things interesting.


Since when did being ANTI-SUICIDE become the "extreme point of view"?? Suicide is ILLEGAL and it is against all major faiths.
#36
I've seen many many reports and a few programmes on this subject and the majority seem to mention or have reference to Motor Neurone Disease, something I watched my father die from when I was 15, he too pleaded with me at that age to help him end his life, shocking and disturbing, but momentarily a loss of his composure, needless to say he went on to die from natural causes, in great pain and torture, trapped and fully aware whilst wasting away. It is a subject I will always be indecisive about.
banned#37
joeymcjoe
master_chief
I like Hissy's style, provoking debate by using extreme points of view always makes things interesting.


Since when did being ANTI-SUICIDE become the "extreme point of view"?? Suicide is ILLEGAL and it is against all major faiths.


Muslims seem ok with it.
#38
master_chief
joeymcjoe
master_chief
I like Hissy's style, provoking debate by using extreme points of view always makes things interesting.


Since when did being ANTI-SUICIDE become the "extreme point of view"?? Suicide is ILLEGAL and it is against all major faiths.


Muslims seem ok with it.


Good bigoted comment there, well done.
banned#39
joeymcjoe
master_chief
joeymcjoe
master_chief
I like Hissy's style, provoking debate by using extreme points of view always makes things interesting.


Since when did being ANTI-SUICIDE become the "extreme point of view"?? Suicide is ILLEGAL and it is against all major faiths.


Muslims seem ok with it.


Good bigoted comment there, well done.


Sorry, I thought from your comment you were being jovial?
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master_chief
joeymcjoe
master_chief
I like Hissy's style, provoking debate by using extreme points of view always makes things interesting.


Since when did being ANTI-SUICIDE become the "extreme point of view"?? Suicide is ILLEGAL and it is against all major faiths.


Muslims seem ok with it.


Islam prohibits suicide, it's the very few crazies within the religion who think it's ok to blow themselves up!

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