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Man United parade off after riots A Rangers fan throwing a bottle in Piccadilly Gardens (Pic: Jeevandra Sivarajah) Trouble flared in Piccadilly Gardens (Pic: Jeevandra Sivarajah) Manchester U…
shauneco Avatar
8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
Man United parade off after riots


A Rangers fan throwing a bottle in Piccadilly Gardens (Pic: Jeevandra Sivarajah)
Trouble flared in Piccadilly Gardens (Pic: Jeevandra Sivarajah)

Manchester United's homecoming parade following next week's Champions League final has been postponed after violence flared in the city on Wednesday.

Police met the club and local authorities on Friday morning and the decision was taken to call off any event until later in the summer.

Manchester City Council confirmed that the riots involving Glasgow Rangers fans had been a factor in the decision.

Manchester United play Chelsea in the final in Moscow next Wednesday evening.

It will be the first time two English teams have met in the final.

'Baying wolves'

A joint statement said: "Manchester City Council, Trafford Council and Manchester United are working with Greater Manchester Police to identify suitable opportunities, given the necessary logistical demands to ensure security and safety, to appropriately celebrate United's achievements this season.

"There will not be a parade immediately following the Uefa final next week but details are being discussed to organise an event which may take place during the summer."

Rio Ferdinand
United won the Premier League last weekend

Opponents Chelsea have also had their plans for a parade affected.

The club wanted to hold a parade on Thursday, the day after the final, if it won, but the Metropolitan Police, Transport for London and local councils said a parade on a weekday evening "would bring severe rush hour disruption and chaos to west London".

Hammersmith and Fulham Council said it had suggested the following Sunday or Monday - a Bank Holiday - as alternatives, but the club has said it will make its position clear if it wins Wednesday's final.

The problems in Manchester came after more than 100,000 Glasgow Rangers fans were in the city centre on Wednesday night to watch the Uefa Cup final with Zenit St Petersburg, held at Manchester City's stadium at Eastlands.

But after Rangers lost 2-0 hundreds of supporters clashed with police. In one instance a mob of more than 200 fans chased after police officers and tripped one of them up.


All they're doing is punishing their own people for their own mistakes
Busby Babe Albert Scanlon

Pc describes fan mob attack

Pc Mick Regan was kicked, punched and stamped on as officers were pushed back by fans hurling bottles.

Assistant Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police, Justine Curran, described the fans as being "like a pack of baying wolves".

Riot police were deployed after a city centre big screen failed and several arrests were made.

Eleven supporters have since been charged with criminal offences.

The charges include public order offences, assault and throwing a missile.

'Shambolic' organisation

A further 11 Rangers fans who were arrested have been bailed pending further inquiries.

Twelve Rangers fans arrested were cautioned, and seven men, including one Zenit St Petersburg fan, were released without charge.

Manchester City Council have already said the Champions League final would not now be shown on big screens in Manchester.

Ex-Manchester United player Albert Scanlon, one of the famous "Busby Babes" team of the 1950s, said thousands of United fans would be "gutted" and blamed the police and council's "shambolic" organisation of the Rangers final.

Mr Scanlon, who will be going to the final, said: "All they're doing is punishing their own people for their own mistakes. It wasn't the people of Manchester's fault what happened on Wednesday. It was shambolic.

"It is all down to their own mistakes with Rangers which has condemned the United fans out of hand.

"If we win, the only place you will be able to see the cup is at Old Trafford, but not everyone can be there."


Also No Big Screen TV's To Watch The Final

The minority of those Rangers fans who caused all the trouble should be ashamed of themselves, I've now got to explain to my little boy that we cannot go and see the celebrations now.

I hope next season Rangers get relegated and banned from other European competitions.
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#1
Disgrace*
#2
pulled already
#3
jennybubbles;2113999
pulled already


:?
#4
It's hardly the teams fault why the idiots behaved in such a way!!
EVERY team has it's hooligans!
#5
There is a rumour that MCC are gonna ask Ranger's FC to pay for the clear up and damage, someone should not the MCC Council tax payer.
As for the big screens, even as a bitter blue, it's a shame you cannot all watch it en masse, maybes contact Glasgow CC and ask could you watch it up there :)

KELLY 'N' STEVE;2114030
It's hardly the teams fault why the idiots behaved in such a way!!
EVERY team has it's hooligans!
No, society has hooligans. You don't need to wear a football shirt to cause chaos and carnage but it's the pack mentality and safety in number's that more football orientated. I've been caught up in carnage like this when it kicks off, in Dam Square during Euro 2000, after the In-ger-land vs Germany game, not fun at all, esp when you get separated from your mates
#6
KELLY 'N' STEVE
It's hardly the teams fault why the idiots behaved in such a way!!
EVERY team has it's hooligans!


There was once a time when hooliganism WAS football. According to Life On Mars.
#7
police should have opened fire on the f&^%ers
#8
duckmagicuk2;2114084
There was once a time when hooliganism WAS football. According to Life On Mars.


12000!!!!!!!!!! congrats duckeh :|:)
#9
Lol the funny thing is the OP saying Rangers should be relgated etc, its not the clubs fault that a few fans got rowdy and why should they be punished.

It's only a game its not like its the end of the world.
#10
ryouga
Lol the funny thing is the OP saying Rangers should be relgated etc, its not the clubs fault that a few fans got rowdy and why should they be punished.

It's only a game its not like its the end of the world.


Exactly my point too!!:thumbsup:
#12
ryouga
Lol the funny thing is the OP saying Rangers should be relgated etc, its not the clubs fault that a few fans got rowdy and why should they be punished.

It's only a game its not like its the end of the world.


a few?:?
[helper]#13
Looks like the council are changing their tune - a bbc report said this a day ago
"City officials have insisted only a small proportion of the huge number of fans in the city were responsible for the disturbances and said the vast majority were peaceful."
Now they are calling it a riot.......
#14
Nice of you to solely blame the Rangers fans, and then post this.......

Ex-Manchester United player Albert Scanlon, one of the famous "Busby Babes" team of the 1950s, said thousands of United fans would be "gutted" and blamed the police and council's "shambolic" organisation of the Rangers final.


Nice to see that not everyone is listening to the English media and Manchester's scapegoating of Rangers FC.

BTW

If you didnt want a mess, maybe you should have provided facilities like bins and toilets for the fans.
ANd they can pay for it with the money they made from hotels, alcohol local public transport charges etc etc.
They made £25Million from it, why on Earth do you think they herded all the fans into the City Centre where all the pubs etc are ??
Every other city would/and usually do, try and get them out somewhere in the open, parks and the likes, not in the middle of a city.

gari189
Looks like the council are changing their tune - a bbc report said this a day ago
"City officials have insisted only a small proportion of the huge number of fans in the city were responsible for the disturbances and said the vast majority were peaceful."
Now they are calling it a riot.......


They are changing their tune, as they are deflecting blame from themselves for a total lack of planning and the brutality of their police.
#15
gari189;2114488
Looks like the council are changing their tune - a bbc report said this a day ago
"City officials have insisted only a small proportion of the huge number of fans in the city were responsible for the disturbances and said the vast majority were peaceful."
Now they are calling it a riot.......
Well, perhaps once the CCTV footage has been analysed, it's fair to call it a riot.....looks like a few more than 42 causing a "riot" on the Manchester Online
#16
boydent999
Well, perhaps once the CCTV footage has been analysed, it's fair to call it a riot.....looks like a few more than 42 causing a "riot" on the Manchester Online


Dont worry our media is full of a lot more innocent people, battered by his mates in riot gear :thumbsup:
Why you think they have released his sob story to the media, and pretty much banned innocent Rangers fans that were beaten from the media down there ?????
#17
Funny how the CCTV shows what, a mob of say, 300 folks coming down the street, and yet you still say how they always find innocent fans, always someone who gets hit who had nowt to do with it, always happens.
As for the media, local press down here have slaughtered the council and the police as best they can, so don't be at it saying the press aren't biased towards MCC and GMP cos you couldn't be more wrong on that score
Sob story? You really cannot see what happened can you? Why should have he been beaten like he was just for trying to stop a load of thugs? You should be the pressman for RFC
#18
what pmsl
#19
nacider
what pmsl



You got PM
#20
boydent999
Funny how the CCTV shows what, a mob of say, 300 folks coming down the street, and yet you still say how they always find innocent fans, always someone who gets hit who had nowt to do with it, always happens.
As for the media, local press down here have slaughtered the council and the police as best they can, so don't be at it saying the press aren't biased towards MCC and GMP cos you couldn't be more wrong on that score
Sob story? You really cannot see what happened can you? Why should have he been beaten like he was just for trying to stop a load of thugs? You should be the pressman for RFC


Think you work for MCC.

English media, has pretty much just been about the mad rioting Rangers fans.
MCC join in and deflect the blame from themselves if anyone dares question them.

The Media in Scotland, are far different, most likely because so much of the media was in Manchester covering the match.
And that has lead to most of the Scottish media, not just Rangers fans, condemning Manchester for the shambles they created.
A lot of the Scottish Media even witnessed innocent fans getting belted by Riot Cops, if it wasnt them getting threatened of course, and by being there they even question why the cops were sent in on a lot of occasions.

First hand accounts are worth a lot more than the English media who are relying on MCC and the Police's press statements.

I'm not denying that some of the fans were put of order, but after everything coming out from it i refuse to let Manchester get away from this looking Whiter-than-white, when the whole situation wasn't needed and wouldnt have happened if Manchester had planned and executed the event properly.
1 Like #21
Think I'll stay out of this one :thumbsup:
#22
If Rangers were English, we would be banned!
banned#23
I'm sure I read that the 11 Rangers fans who were arrested were in fact residents of England. Rangers are of course notoriously proud of their English ancestory and hae adopted the union flag as theirs. Funny that, bet there were more union flags than soltires, eh??

Other Scottish teams who stick to their celtic roots don't seem to have this problem.
#24
I imagine that a great percentage of people who were there without tickets were English based Scots
#25
DeMoNeA
I'm sure I read that the 11 Rangers fans who were arrested were in fact residents of England. Rangers are of course notoriously proud of their English ancestory and hae adopted the union flag as theirs. Funny that, bet there were more union flags than soltires, eh??

Other Scottish teams who stick to their celtic roots don't seem to have this problem.


Rangers fan here, its nothing to do with "English Ancestry" rofl
If you dont actually know what you are talkign about, why are you commenting here ??

Its to do with being British.
Britain originally being a Union between the 2 countries and incorporating NI and Wales as well.

And it wouldnt surprise anyone if those arrested werent Scottish.
Was a few English folk there, and reportedly without any club colours, so impossible to tell if they even supported them or not.

And some other clubs that stick to their celtic roots have their own sets of problems just as bad.

Suggest you look into an issue before commenting on it.
banned#26
DeMoNeA;2115515
I'm sure I read that the 11 Rangers fans who were arrested were in fact residents of England. Rangers are of course notoriously proud of their English ancestory and hae adopted the union flag as theirs. Funny that, bet there were more union flags than soltires, eh??

Other Scottish teams who stick to their celtic roots don't seem to have this problem.


Are you being serious? Rangers fans are proud of their English Roots? Next you will be saying they all support England against Scotland!

But in any case, are you complaining they are proud of the British flag, but without passing comment on the tri-colour waving celtic fans?

What exactly is your point?
banned#27
Being british is about being at one with England, Queens rule and all that. It's the same thing, just different words. Maybe you should go educate yourself.

Hmm, lets think of their repetoire, rule brittania, God save the queen, really scottish that isn't?

Another thing to ponder, what team are rangers most closely affiliated with? Wouldn't that be Chelsea? The English team with notorious casuals who see riots as part of the game?

For what it's worth I think that rangers fans are being made out to be the villains here when that simply isn't the case. Yes, there were ********s there in blue shirts but it was also a rangers fan who saved the policeman and got him into the van. As has already been mentioned the whole thing was badly organized and it's a sad state of affairs when the mancunions were trying to squeeze all the fans and their money in and then have the cheek to complain when it goes wrong. The city done well financially out of this and even after the clean up will still be on a huge profit.

I just think it's funny how the english are moaning that this is a scottish problem when Rangers are probably more english (call it British if you like) than most clubs down south. How many of them sing Rule Brittania?
#28
duckmagicuk2
There was once a time when hooliganism WAS football. According to Life On Mars.

Not actually a documentary,ducky!!
Congrats on 12K.
#29
As a proud scot, I was disgusted by the pictures on the front pages of some of the tabloids. How can human beings launch such a vicious attack on a fellow human being??! The poor guy was doing his job and I'm sure his family will be telling him to jack it all in after his horrific ordeal! I thought we lived in a civilsed society but i may be wrong! :cry:


Thanks to these moronic 'fans', Rangers FC are now tarred and the Scots who were there genuinely for the match and just to have a good time, should turn in these hooligans for the shame they have brought on the team. It's always sad when a select 'few' ruin it for everyone else. Do they not realise that the implications would have been far reaching??

I hate what drink does to people. My best friend who is disabled was set upon by 5 drunks recently and has 'died' twice!! He was in a coma for ages and his recovery will be slow. He was sat minding his own business when these thugs lauched a vicious mindless unprovoked attack on him. He put up a fight and managed to injure a couple of them but 5 against 1!! :viking:


I'm not calling for a ban on alcohol on match days as thousands manage to have a few and stay pleasant and jovial but something does need to be done. I hope these hooligans are named and shamed! :x
#30
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#31
DeMoNeA
Being british is about being at one with England, Queens rule and all that. It's the same thing, just different words. Maybe you should go educate yourself.

Hmm, lets think of their repetoire, rule brittania, God save the queen, really scottish that isn't?


Well Scotland is equal within the UK, so anyone is allowed to show pride in Britain as much as they want.
Without Scotlands input there would be no Britain, no Empire, and both would be just minor countries in the world.

As for the Queen, well it was the Scottish monarch who inherited the English throne which gave us the Union of the Crowns, and finally of Parliament.
Not much inherently "English" about the royals really.

So they sing about being British, when they are British, and about a Monarchy system which has more to do with us than the English.

Not really seeing your point so far.

Will agree with the MCC ripping it out of the fans though.
banned#32
Do you know what this is?

Lord grant that Marshal Wade

May by thy mighty aid

Victory bring.

May he sedition hush,

And like a torrent rush,

Rebellious Scots to crush.

God save the Queen!


It's the 6th verse of OUR national anthem LOL

I wouldn't expect you to understand my point, you're a loyalist.


A man who can stand and sing a song which devours his own nation? Yeah right.

At least we can agree on one thing, it's a british problem. We just have different opinions of Britishness.

LOL, England and Scotland equal?? Right you are, I'm sure loads of english go abroad and are reffered to as Scottish.
banned 1 Like #33
DeMoNeA
Being british is about being at one with England, Queens rule and all that. It's the same thing, just different words. Maybe you should go educate yourself.



Is it? And there was me thinking being British was being a part of a Union between England, Scotland, Wales and (Northern) Ireland. And as for being under the Englsh Queens rule, you were aware that wasnt always the case and there has been Scotish Royalty which included rule over England? Look it up. You might educate yourself!

Hmm, lets think of their repetoire, rule brittania, God save the queen, really scottish that isn't?


Considering your lack of understanding of what being British is, why would I not be surprised at your notion they are somehow "England supporters". Rule Brittania - "Britons never will be slaves", God save the - "British" Queen. Yes, Rangers fans are supporters of the Union known as Great Britain - those songs are "British" songs. They do also sing "Flower of Scotland" in case you didnt realise! (And since I see you have now quoted an unsung third verse of "god save he queen - you might want to look up the lyrics to lower of Scotland!)

Now if your argument was based on being loyal to your nationality, then I am somehow surprised you chose not to mention the tri-colour waving Celtic fans? Rangers fans are "supporting" Great Britain. Not too sure why thats bad and Scotish Nationals waving an Irish flag is ok in your eyes?

Assuming you are British, I am rather surpised at what appears to be an American slant on believing that being British means you are English and that God save the Queen is the English national anthem!

Another thing to ponder, what team are rangers most closely affiliated with? Wouldn't that be Chelsea? The English team with notorious casuals who see riots as part of the game?


So are you now trying to say it was Chesea fans that caused a riot? Your conspiracy theories know no bounds!


For what it's worth I think that rangers fans are being made out to be the villains here when that simply isn't the case. Yes, there were ********s there in blue shirts but it was also a rangers fan who saved the policeman and got him into the van. As has already been mentioned the whole thing was badly organized and it's a sad state of affairs when the mancunions were trying to squeeze all the fans and their money in and then have the cheek to complain when it goes wrong. The city done well financially out of this and even after the clean up will still be on a huge profit.


Agreed. Manchesters council have a lot to answer for. There is no excuse for the trouble that happened, but those flashing £ signs and greed are a major factor, along with "watch it on our big screens" - that dont work and "buy your drinks" from our unprepaired dry supermarkets.
banned 1 Like #34
DeMoNeA
Do you know what this is?

Lord grant that Marshal Wade

May by thy mighty aid

Victory bring.

May he sedition hush,

And like a torrent rush,

Rebellious Scots to crush.

God save the Queen!


It's the 6th verse of OUR national anthem LOL

I wouldn't expect you to understand my point, you're a loyalist.
.


Er, no it isnt.
#35
fern37

I hate what drink does to people. My best friend who is disabled was set upon by 5 drunks recently and has 'died' twice!! He was in a coma for ages and his recovery will be slow. He was sat minding his own business when these thugs lauched a vicious mindless unprovoked attack on him. He put up a fight and managed to injure a couple of them but 5 against 1!! :viking:
I'm not calling for a ban on alcohol on match days as thousands manage to have a few and stay pleasant and jovial but something does need to be done. I hope these hooligans are named and shamed! :x


I feel so sorry for your friend. Good for him for defending himself. These thugs are at best bullies even when sober and the alcohol just makes a bad job worse. Good for you for being a good friend.
I'm afraid that a ban on alcohol just means that all the many responsible and pleasant fans out for a good time miss out on a bevvy and the thugs drink anyway. Solutions - too difficult for me to figure I'm afraid.
#36
Another thing to ponder, what team are rangers most closely affiliated with? Wouldn't that be Chelsea? The English team with notorious casuals who see riots as part of the game?

No, that would be Everton.
banned#37
chesso
No, that would be Everton.


Nah, there is a link with Chelsea... and though Ive not heard Everton mentioned before, it sums up how meaningless the comment is.
#38
chesso
No, that would be Everton.



Sorry but it is chelsea
#39
DeMoNeA
Do you know what this is?

Lord grant that Marshal Wade

May by thy mighty aid

Victory bring.

May he sedition hush,

And like a torrent rush,

Rebellious Scots to crush.

God save the Queen!


It's the 6th verse of OUR national anthem LOL

I wouldn't expect you to understand my point, you're a loyalist.


A man who can stand and sing a song which devours his own nation? Yeah right.

At least we can agree on one thing, it's a british problem. We just have different opinions of Britishness.

LOL, England and Scotland equal?? Right you are, I'm sure loads of english go abroad and are reffered to as Scottish.


Actually i would vote for Independence in a heartbeat right now.
Especially with the Tories about to win the next election.

Even then, Scotland and England have both benefitted, and even if we go our seperate ways, will always end up agreeing on common themes, after centuries of populations intermingling etc.
Just that Scots generally know how to run things better, seeing since we ran quite a bit of the Empire, and have a heavy influence in Westminster even though Blair and Brown both havent been great examples (sorry bout them lol).

I just seem to have a better understanding as i am Glaswegian AND Scottish.
I really cant figure out what you are, you talk like you are Scottish but dont seem to have a clue.
As a previous poster has said, a bit like an American talks when they are being Scots or Irish that day.

And yea OK Scotland and England arent really equal.
England has mooched off us for years, and get all uppity when we get Free Uni/Health and they dont even though those policies cost a fraction of things like the Olympics etc which we contribute to and get zilch back.

Scotland is split atm between Union or Independence.
Its nothing to do with "celtic roots" or wanting to be English.
Comments like those you have made just show you up as either not being Scottish, or being too young to have benefitted from our Education system.
Either way, you arent well qualified to talk about the matters you are dabbling in.
#40
HaggisHunter
Actually i would vote for Independence in a heartbeat right now.
Especially with the Tories about to win the next election.

Even then, Scotland and England have both benefitted, and even if we go our seperate ways, will always end up agreeing on common themes, after centuries of populations intermingling etc.
Just that Scots generally know how to run things better, seeing since we ran quite a bit of the Empire, and have a heavy influence in Westminster even though Blair and Brown both havent been great examples (sorry bout them lol).

I just seem to have a better understanding as i am Glaswegian AND Scottish.
I really cant figure out what you are, you talk like you are Scottish but dont seem to have a clue.
As a previous poster has said, a bit like an American talks when they are being Scots or Irish that day.

And yea OK Scotland and England arent really equal.
England has mooched off us for years, and get all uppity when we get Free Uni/Health and they dont even though those policies cost a fraction of things like the Olympics etc which we contribute to and get zilch back.

Scotland is split atm between Union or Independence.
Its nothing to do with "celtic roots" or wanting to be English.
Comments like those you have made just show you up as either not being Scottish, or being too young to have benefitted from our Education system.
Either way, you arent well qualified to talk about the matters you are dabbling in.


bravo well said :thumbsup:

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