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So my parents have been kicked off the council list, because my 87 year old father didnt bid on all the properties he was intitled to, thus he broke the rules and has been kicked off the locata. Th…
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3m, 3w agoPosted 3 months, 3 weeks ago
So my parents have been kicked off the council list, because my 87 year old father didnt bid on all the properties he was intitled to, thus he broke the rules and has been kicked off the locata.

They were searching for a new council place in the first place because Ealing council has sold off the estare for regeneration, prices start at 300k for a studio flat on tne new place.

My dad used to hit us for crying, don't show weakness to others, now he's crying saying they are screwed, I've never see seen him cry, his blood pressure is in the danger zone because of stress he's been on statins for years anyway.

All you **** who think council house tennants are all scum pay attention to the reality of life in this **** hole of a country run by the self serving rich,
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3m, 3w agoPosted 3 months, 3 weeks ago
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livinthedream
Error440
livinthedream
Should of worked harder in a young age maybe to provide for the future ? as until they let all the s h ee te in lately you should of realised that in life you only deserve to get out what you put in ?
My fathers been working since he was 10 and worked after he retired from the civil service as a cleaner for as longas he was able hoe long would you like him to have worked?
Each to their own but don't be a robot and earn for oneself maybe ?

There was me thinking your name was livinthedream not enjoysKickingPeopleWhenThey'reDown.
8 Likes
cleverguy12
Why are you not providing for your father in his old age? He provided and looked after you in your young age!
oO # another planet
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seems unfair, help him get through the bureaucracy. There is a lot of pressure on council houses perhaps it will help to know it might go to someone from Syria or Iraq who can start to make a new life here.
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I hope there are grounds for appeal. Doesn't see right an 87 year old is expected to keep track of all that.
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hutchir9
Stop blaming everyone else and take some responsibility. Go get s job and stop scrounging then you could help and provide for your parents.
I have my wife parents living with us and I pay for everything and do not get a penny off the government, you should try it someday.


Error and I don't always see eye to eye but what I have gathered is that she is trying to raise her child under quite difficult circumstances and is doing her best. Her partner has issues and her own health has suffered, so it's not quite as straightforward as you seem to think, regarding working and taking in her elderly father.

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4 Likes #1
Why are you not providing for your father in his old age? He provided and looked after you in your young age!
2 Likes #2
can't you appeal? go to citizens advice, local mp etc. there's a lot of help out there.
8 Likes #3
cleverguy12
Why are you not providing for your father in his old age? He provided and looked after you in your young age!
oO # another planet
1 Like #4
cleverguy12
Why are you not providing for your father in his old age? He provided and looked after you in your young age!

Yes OP

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7 Likes #5
seems unfair, help him get through the bureaucracy. There is a lot of pressure on council houses perhaps it will help to know it might go to someone from Syria or Iraq who can start to make a new life here.
#6
Lol how am I to do that half our rent is housing benefit I use tax credits to pay the bills and my fiancee and father of our child has been abusive since his own father died and wants to leave us to the state, I am convinced he has sever/clinical depression.

My life is **** and everything just gets worse and worse all at the same time too.

If you ever fell on hard times and had to look for mental or financial help then you would suddenly realise there really isnt anything there, you are on your own.
7 Likes #7
I hope there are grounds for appeal. Doesn't see right an 87 year old is expected to keep track of all that.
#8
discozohan
can't you appeal? go to citizens advice, local mp etc. there's a lot of help out there.


They've done that the funny thing is guess where my dad used to work? Thats right the local council and before that he was a civil servant in whitehall
2 Likes #9
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(
2 Likes #10
Maybe payback for hitting you for crying, my dad was hard discipline too but the older they get it comes back to bite them.
6 Likes #11
That tories for you? It's a labour controlled council..... just saying.
2 Likes #12
Try not to drink too much
1 Like #13
davewave
seems unfair, help him get through the bureaucracy. There is a lot of pressure on council houses perhaps it will help to know it might go to someone from Syria or Iraq who can start to make a new life here.


Not reading are you the estate they are on is getting knocked down to make way for regeneration, 300k starting for a studio flat on the new place, so oaps made homeless to make way for more eternally empty properties owned by the Russians and Chinese as investments.
1 Like #14
davelincs1979
That tories for you? It's a labour controlled council..... just saying.

Same thing since nu labour
3 Likes #15
Regardless of your political persuasion, maybe you should go and talk to the different councillors in your area. One of them should know how to move forward with this.
#16
rogparki
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(


​who else would you blame, they sold off the stock and wouldn't give the council's the money thinking it's better left to the private sector.
4 Likes #17
Should of worked harder in a young age maybe to provide for the future ? as until they let all the s h ee te in lately you should of realised that in life you only deserve to get out what you put in ?
does pee me of fthough taht although I work up to 18 hours a day to secure an early retirement you then get those that beetch away that they deserve something out of life to "be equal" .. In my mind .. no you don't as I would happily pay no tax or N.I. and not use the services . would be willing to contribute to armed services , emergency services , elderly folk and the genuinely disabled as well though , no money would be given to Africa and inbred 14 kid families in pakistan etc unless it was on condoms

Edited By: livinthedream on Oct 29, 2016 20:55
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Wish you saved this for Monday morning OP.
#19
shadey12
rogparki
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(
​who else would you blame, they sold off the stock and wouldn't give the council's the money thinking it's better left to the private sector.
Which of course Labour reversed when they regained power ...... err hang on a min - I don't think they did -or am I mistaken ?
2 Likes #20
He worked for the council & was a civil servant in Whitehall.
Does he not get a decent pension for that?
2 Likes #21
sorry to read what you and your dad are going through. Hope their a solution. Maybe
contact Shelter/Crisis if they can provide some help :( good luck
#22
livinthedream
Should of worked harder in a young age maybe to provide for the future ? as until they let all the s h ee te in lately you should of realised that in life you only deserve to get out what you put in ?

My fathers been working since he was 10 and worked after he retired from the civil service as a cleaner for as longas he was able hoe long would you like him to have worked?
1 Like #23
stuarthanley
He worked for the council & was a civil servant in Whitehall.
Does he not get a decent pension for that?

Its only 8k a year.
1 Like #24
rogparki
shadey12
rogparki
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(
​who else would you blame, they sold off the stock and wouldn't give the council's the money thinking it's better left to the private sector.
Which of course Labour reversed when they regained power ...... err hang on a min - I don't think they did -or am I mistaken ?


Nu labour = tories in red
5 Likes #25
rogparki
shadey12
rogparki
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(
​who else would you blame, they sold off the stock and wouldn't give the council's the money thinking it's better left to the private sector.
Which of course Labour reversed when they regained power ...... err hang on a min - I don't think they did -or am I mistaken ?


​no, they didn't. you are right Tony Blaire wanted to be like the Tories and attract their voters. he then had a open door on immigration. those things combined makes it worse today than most probably any time in living history for those needing help from the state.
#26
the problem comes from the Thatcher years , property became the thing to have, unfortunately your fathers generation , like the young generation are paying for the Thatcher children . Best deals on pensions, housing . it's so wrong, so sad . I wish u luck .
#27
shadey12
rogparki
shadey12
rogparki
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(
​who else would you blame, they sold off the stock and wouldn't give the council's the money thinking it's better left to the private sector.
Which of course Labour reversed when they regained power ...... err hang on a min - I don't think they did -or am I mistaken ?


​no, they didn't. you are right Tony Blaire wanted to be like the Tories and attract their voters. he then had a open door on immigration. those things combined makes it worse today than most probably any time in living history for those needing help from the state.


​with this government , now propping up the car industry (Nissan) things will get worse , for thoses needing help .
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Error440
davewave
seems unfair, help him get through the bureaucracy. There is a lot of pressure on council houses perhaps it will help to know it might go to someone from Syria or Iraq who can start to make a new life here.


Not reading are you the estate they are on is getting knocked down to make way for regeneration, 300k starting for a studio flat on the new place, so oaps made homeless to make way for more eternally empty properties owned by the Russians and Chinese as investments.


​does seem unfair but property in London and all capital cities progresses and unfashionable areas become valuable and in demand, you should probably find a suitable place for him without blaming the government who appear to have provided a home for pennies for so long.
1 Like #29
Why didn't he bid on the other properties? Is it something where you have to choose something off a list and if you don't choose at least one then you get removed from the list?
3 Likes #30
I'm guessing you are in or around London?... move away to somewhere that's got housing? Too many in London getting council places, then right to buy, just to cash in on the extortionate value of property. Would be passed to you I guess too....nice little earner paid for by the council.
banned#31
There's emotion involved in this which is entirely understandable.

Are your parents known to a specific social worker?
1 Like #32
shadey12
rogparki
shadey12
rogparki
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(
​who else would you blame, they sold off the stock and wouldn't give the council's the money thinking it's better left to the private sector.
Which of course Labour reversed when they regained power ...... err hang on a min - I don't think they did -or am I mistaken ?
​no, they didn't. you are right Tony Blaire wanted to be like the Tories and attract their voters. he then had a open door on immigration. those things combined makes it worse today than most probably any time in living history for those needing help from the state.
Immigrants nearly always vote labour, that is a fact. labour have virtually no interest in past native cultural preferences as long as it gets them elected.

Edited By: CookinBat on Oct 29, 2016 21:34
3 Likes #33
What does he look like? Couldn't you put him in a dinghy and let him wash up on the coast and he could pretend to speak no English? He'll have a nice big house in Devon in no time!
1 Like #34
Sorry to hear error,

the whole council system is a joke now, my daughters just left home, she is living with her boyfriends mum for now, but she has no chance of getting a place of her own.

she works 2 jobs, and he works too, they cannot afford private, and no one will take them private anyway with the references and credit checks now required, and council won't take anyone unless your are literally homeless with kids.

we can't afford to help her out other than help with her bond, or let her live with us. the system doesn't work anymore.
2 Likes #35
richmond
the problem comes from the Thatcher years , property became the thing to have, unfortunately your fathers generation , like the young generation are paying for the Thatcher children . Best deals on pensions, housing . it's so wrong, so sad . I wish u luck .


​name a major capital where property hasn't become expensive?
#36
Error440
davelincs1979
That tories for you? It's a labour controlled council..... just saying.
Same thing since nu labour
No wonder we keep getting tory governments with that attitude.
banned#37
Error440
Lol how am I to do that half our rent is housing benefit I use tax credits to pay the bills and my fiancee and father of our child has been abusive since his own father died and wants to leave us to the state, I am convinced he has sever/clinical depression.
My life is **** and everything just gets worse and worse all at the same time too.
If you ever fell on hard times and had to look for mental or financial help then you would suddenly realise there really isnt anything there, you are on your own.

Error. No one deserves to live like that.
1 Like #38
Sorry to hear your woes error, have you tried to appeal? Go down the CAB and see if there is anything that can be done. Most of all ignore the baiting and trolling you will get here.
2 Likes #39
CookinBat
shadey12
rogparki
shadey12
rogparki
Agreed the rules can seem unfair , but they apply countrywide . Labour controlled Peterborough is the same . Whilst I sympathise with folks predicaments its very cheap, easy and uninformed to blame it on the Tories :(
​who else would you blame, they sold off the stock and wouldn't give the council's the money thinking it's better left to the private sector.
Which of course Labour reversed when they regained power ...... err hang on a min - I don't think they did -or am I mistaken ?
​no, they didn't. you are right Tony Blaire wanted to be like the Tories and attract their voters. he then had a open door on immigration. those things combined makes it worse today than most probably any time in living history for those needing help from the state.
Immigrants nearly always vote labour, that is a fact. labour have virtually no interest in past native cultural preferences as long as it gets them elected.


​correct, for labour it was move as many new voters into the country as possible, for the Tories look after pensioners and make people greedy. neither having much of a long term plan for the future.
#40
Error440
livinthedream
Should of worked harder in a young age maybe to provide for the future ? as until they let all the s h ee te in lately you should of realised that in life you only deserve to get out what you put in ?
My fathers been working since he was 10 and worked after he retired from the civil service as a cleaner for as longas he was able hoe long would you like him to have worked?
Each to their own but don't be a robot and earn for oneself maybe ?

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