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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
I am signed up to a few job websites and i got this email the other day about a job, but it seems suspicious to me.


"We have found your CV at Monster and would like to offer you a part time job that consists of receiving bank transfers and then making further payments to one of our regional departments. Your commission as an agent is 6% of each transaction. The salary is commission based only and you will earn approximately £18000 per year. The hours for this work can be combined with any permanent or other part time job, the average workload of up to few hours a week. Please note that you can work from home but this job cannot be done online, you need physically withdraw-send money from nearest branches. Our company's business is based on a peer to peer type network. This avoids foreign taxation and cross board acquisition fees. If you are interested in our offer, please feel free to ask for details of the general provisions of the contract.

Kind Regards
Kathrin Ott"

What you guys think?
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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banned#1
dont know, if you put a CV in to monster, do they not contact you personally?
#2
sounds a bit dodgy :? best just leave it just incase
banned#3
come and join us
you join that your a complete muppet
#4
Hmmm, bit of a toughie.

Wouldn't have asked about this one, perhaps her Surname 'Ott' stands for Over The Top?:?
#5
How can you work from home when you have to manually withdraw cash and pay it elsewhere? Dodgy as hell by the sounds of it!!
#6
:pGo for it when they make the transfers keep em!
#7
I would just delete it, why cant it be done online? most businesses do there transfers online!
2 Likes #8
http://www.banksafeonline.org.uk/moneymule_explained.html



What is a money mule?

As most of the fraudsters behind these scams are located overseas and it is not possible to make cross-border transfers out of UK online bank accounts overseas, a "money mule" or "money transfer agent" is required to launder the funds obtained as a result of phishing and Trojan scams. After being recruited by the fraudsters, money mules receive funds into their accounts and they then withdraw the money and send it overseas using a wire transfer service, minus a certain commission payment.
Money mules are recruited by a variety of methods, including spam emails, adverts on genuine recruitment web sites, approaches to people with their CVs available online, instant messaging and adverts in newspapers.



How can I avoid becoming involved in a money mule scam?

Be cautious about any unsolicited offers or opportunities offering you the chance to make some easy money. Be especially wary of offers from people or companies overseas as is harder for you to find out if they really are who they say they are. Take steps to verify any company which makes you a job offer and check their contact details (address, phone number, email address and web site) are correct and whether they are registered in the UK. Never give your bank details to anyone unless you know and trust them.
How to identify a money mule advert

Money mule adverts or offers can take a variety of different forms and they may even copy a genuine company's web site and register a similar web address to add authenticity to the scam. These adverts will normally state that they are an overseas company seeking "UK representatives" or "agents" to act on their behalf for a period of time, sometimes to avoid high charges for making payments, or local taxes. The advert may be written in poor English with grammatical and spelling mistakes and they may urge you not to inform the bank or the police about the reason for making the payments. The adverts may seek people with accounts at certain banks, or Internet payment systems.
#9
bargain surfer
:pGo for it when they make the transfers keep em!


Damm right, but make sure the money hits your account, odds are you'll get a dodgy email or fake bankers draft.

I suggest you don't agree to anything and pass details to your bank, the police, Monster and google these con merchants,

Smatterings of..'I'm a Kenyan banker trying to off load multi million pounds if you send me some money first' ????'
#10
Sounds dodgy as hell. What company do they claim to be from?
#11
bargain surfer;3208317
:pGo for it when they make the transfers keep em!

You gotta be kidding me:w00t:! The people behind these are high level fraudsters operating wholesale phishing attacks, carding scams and countless other frauds, the money will go through several people recruited through things like the op has posted before reaching them to make them as hard to trace as possible. These guys arent petty crooks they are heavy players and wont take things lightly if someone rips them off:x
#12
Shazzad;3208405
Damm right, but make sure the money hits your account, odds are you'll get a dodgy email or fake bankers draft.

I suggest you don't agree to anything and pass details to your bank, the police, Monster and google these con merchants,

Smatterings of..'I'm a Kenyan banker trying to off load multi million pounds if you send me some money first' ????'

The money will hit your bank no doubts there but it will be straight from a victim and when a scam gets reported you will be identified as the one that scammed them!
banned#13
harlzter
The money will hit your bank no doubts there but it will be straight from a victim and when a scam gets reported you will be identified as the one that scammed them!


Sounds cool! Wonder if there is anyone stupid enough to try it that likes to think they can make lots of money! :thinking::w00t::p:roll:
#14
jah128
Sounds dodgy as hell. What company do they claim to be from?


They did not name a company just told me to mail back for details

and thanks though it was a bit dodgy, just wanted to get other people oppinions
#15
Do it and make loadsa money, I mean it is from the highly reputable company - Monster. What's not to trust? I wouldn't do it but they didn't send me the email did they.

Only kiddin' Steer well clear from this email - dont reply back cos its a scam! :-)
#16
harlzter
http://www.banksafeonline.org.uk/moneymule_explained.html



What is a money mule?

As most of the fraudsters behind these scams are located overseas and it is not possible to make cross-border transfers out of UK online bank accounts overseas, a "money mule" or "money transfer agent" is required to launder the funds obtained as a result of phishing and Trojan scams. After being recruited by the fraudsters, money mules receive funds into their accounts and they then withdraw the money and send it overseas using a wire transfer service, minus a certain commission payment.
Money mules are recruited by a variety of methods, including spam emails, adverts on genuine recruitment web sites, approaches to people with their CVs available online, instant messaging and adverts in newspapers.



How can I avoid becoming involved in a money mule scam?

Be cautious about any unsolicited offers or opportunities offering you the chance to make some easy money. Be especially wary of offers from people or companies overseas as is harder for you to find out if they really are who they say they are. Take steps to verify any company which makes you a job offer and check their contact details (address, phone number, email address and web site) are correct and whether they are registered in the UK. Never give your bank details to anyone unless you know and trust them.
How to identify a money mule advert

Money mule adverts or offers can take a variety of different forms and they may even copy a genuine company's web site and register a similar web address to add authenticity to the scam. These adverts will normally state that they are an overseas company seeking "UK representatives" or "agents" to act on their behalf for a period of time, sometimes to avoid high charges for making payments, or local taxes. The advert may be written in poor English with grammatical and spelling mistakes and they may urge you not to inform the bank or the police about the reason for making the payments. The adverts may seek people with accounts at certain banks, or Internet payment systems.


There was an article about money mules in the Sunday Newspapers. They said that when the police find where the money has been credited to they will arrange to debit the funds from that bank account regardless. So if you've received £100,000 and passed on £94,000 and kept £6,000 as your commission, do be prepared to have at a later date a debit for the whole £100,000 come into your account as well as facing a criminal trial for money laundering.
Let me know how you get on and which prison I should visit you in and the name of the accountants dealing with your bancruptcy and if the bad guys have caught up with you yet.
1 Like #17
This scam is probably based around the fact that money that is put into your account can be taken back again electronically without your permission for a period of up to five days.

Common understanding that a cheque clears into your account in three days and at that point it's 'yours'.

WRONG it can still be recalled.

These scammers pay you say for example £5000.

They ask you to pay out £4600 - probably to another account of theirs.

You think - mmmm sweet I have made £400 'commission'.

You later check your account - they have taken back the original £5000 ( within the 5 day period).

Net result you lose big time.

STAY AWAY.
#18
Thanks for the info everyone :)
#19
deffo dodgy
#20
SOunds like money laundering to me, I wouldn't go anywhere near it, it's illegal and you could end up in prison - SO not worth the risk. Also, I'd get in touch with Monster and let them know that you've received it as I should say they wouldn't be very pleased.
#21
Sounds well dodgy but if you do it and make a fortune, can you get me a job too.
banned#22
It is a plain and simple con, please don't do it its phishing.
banned#23
i had same email from other job sites and stay well clear from them
#24
I recieved the exact same email a week ago. I researched the website that they gave me before applying online.

The application states that they have a Drugs and Alcohol policy that provides for preemployment testing as well as testing after employment.

There are lots of FAQ on their website and its looks pretty legitimate but it states that it is absolutely legitimate and subject to the international juridical system, they also have an antifraud department. it also states that if you apply - and they transfer the money and you do not transfer as the information instructed then they have your details to get in touch with the police and so.

I googled Western Union as this is how you transfer the money back to their 'Clients' there were some bad points including scams but there are hundreds of places that offfer the WU bank - such as holiday paces like Thompson, First Choice ect

They apparently use this service by splitting money into parts as this automatically avoids high foreign taxation and cross board acquisition fees, most of their clients are individuals who need to send large amount of money to Europe online without paying business transfer fees.

They ask for only your sort code and account as you can only put money IN to your bank account and NOT TAKE OUT... you have to take the money out of your bank account in £ and transfer this in Euro.

This cant be done online because the WU online system only limits £500 per month hense the reason why you need to physically withdraw the funds from the nearest branches.

I applied last week giving my deails and i have today recieved an email from Kathrin Ott saying that they have checked and varified my information and they will give me a confirmation call on Saturday.

This is the email i recieved this evening:

"Hello,We have verified your details, everything is fine and you are able to start Trial task. You will start from next Thursday (30 October). On Monday our customer will make the first transfer to you, because this is a transfer between two banks it will be completed in about 3 days (exactly on Thursday), we will email detailed information and instructions regarding transfers. For the first few months, until we establish a good transaction history, you will receive only 3 transfers per week (the amount about 2000 pounds each except first/trial transfer).Please confirm that you can start. We don't send any transfers to your account until we receive confirmation from you. Also you will receive a confirmation call on Saturday, please make sure you provide the correct phone number."

I have actaully set up another bank accout (easy cash - no overdraft facilties just a card - just in case)

once they have sent u the funds you have just 48 hours to transfer the money otherwise they stop employing you.

How money is transferred: information about the person who you need to send money to will be pointed out in the task (email they send you). after you have transferred the money by western union you wil be given an MTCN (money transfer control number) then you need to login to the task manager and entre WU information ie senders full name, MTCN, and total amount.

once they have established a good transfer history with you (all less than £2000) the amount increases.

commission you earn - your commision may be liable for personal income tax as you will be classed as self employed they will provide you with an IRS form which you can use when filling out tax return.

I was also found over Monster and was contacted directly through the monster website once i emailed Kathrin Ott bout details i had this email back

"Hello,Please visit our website: a-cca dot com and browse Careers and TM Open sections, regarding Transfer Manager position. Best regards,Kathrin OttAcca HR Department"

I really dont know what to think and after reading these opinions is beginning to feel rather dull bout thinking it could be real and yeah an easy way of making money - i mean 6% of £2k is £120 straight in ur pocket and 3 times a week making you £360!!!

what u think of my research ????
#25
I recieved the exact same email a week ago. I researched the website that they gave me before applying online.

The application states that they have a Drugs and Alcohol policy that provides for preemployment testing as well as testing after employment.

There are lots of FAQ on their website and its looks pretty legitimate but it states that it is absolutely legitimate and subject to the international juridical system, they also have an antifraud department. it also states that if you apply - and they transfer the money and you do not transfer as the information instructed then they have your details to get in touch with the police and so.

I googled Western Union as this is how you transfer the money back to their 'Clients' there were some bad points including scams but there are hundreds of places that offfer the WU bank - such as holiday paces like Thompson, First Choice ect

They apparently use this service by splitting money into parts as this automatically avoids high foreign taxation and cross board acquisition fees, most of their clients are individuals who need to send large amount of money to Europe online without paying business transfer fees.

They ask for only your sort code and account as you can only put money IN to your bank account and NOT TAKE OUT... you have to take the money out of your bank account in £ and transfer this in Euro.

This cant be done online because the WU online system only limits £500 per month hense the reason why you need to physically withdraw the funds from the nearest branches.

I applied last week giving my deails and i have today recieved an email from Kathrin Ott saying that they have checked and varified my information and they will give me a confirmation call on Saturday.

This is the email i recieved this evening:

"Hello,We have verified your details, everything is fine and you are able to start Trial task. You will start from next Thursday (30 October). On Monday our customer will make the first transfer to you, because this is a transfer between two banks it will be completed in about 3 days (exactly on Thursday), we will email detailed information and instructions regarding transfers. For the first few months, until we establish a good transaction history, you will receive only 3 transfers per week (the amount about 2000 pounds each except first/trial transfer).Please confirm that you can start. We don't send any transfers to your account until we receive confirmation from you. Also you will receive a confirmation call on Saturday, please make sure you provide the correct phone number."

I have actaully set up another bank accout (easy cash - no overdraft facilties just a card - just in case)

once they have sent u the funds you have just 48 hours to transfer the money otherwise they stop employing you.

How money is transferred: information about the person who you need to send money to will be pointed out in the task (email they send you). after you have transferred the money by western union you wil be given an MTCN (money transfer control number) then you need to login to the task manager and entre WU information ie senders full name, MTCN, and total amount.

once they have established a good transfer history with you (all less than £2000) the amount increases.

commission you earn - your commision may be liable for personal income tax as you will be classed as self employed they will provide you with an IRS form which you can use when filling out tax return.

I was also found over Monster and was contacted directly through the monster website once i emailed Kathrin Ott bout details i had this email back

"Hello,Please visit our website: a-cca dot com and browse Careers and TM Open sections, regarding Transfer Manager position. Best regards,Kathrin OttAcca HR Department"

I really dont know what to think and after reading these opinions is beginning to feel rather dull bout thinking it could be real and yeah an easy way of making money - i mean 6% of £2k is £120 straight in ur pocket and 3 times a week making you £360!!!

i even facebook searched Kathrin Ott and one exists with a lot of foreign names friends!! lol

what u think of my research ????
[mod]#26
Hahaha...this is hilarious. Money laundering knows no bounds....
banned#27
also got this but never registered with monster

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