Thinking of going on holiday before the kids summer break but is there any consequences? - HotUKDeals
We use cookie files to improve site functionality and personalisation. By continuing to use HotUKDeals, you accept our cookie and privacy policy.
Get the HotUKDeals app free at Google Play

Search Error

An error occurred when searching, please try again!

Login / Sign UpSubmit

Thinking of going on holiday before the kids summer break but is there any consequences?

£0.00 @
We've got our heart set on going on a 2 week holiday with the family but we won't be able to afford the trip during the summer school holidays and we're now worried that the school may interfere if we… Read More
arsenal rivals Avatar
banned9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
We've got our heart set on going on a 2 week holiday with the family but we won't be able to afford the trip during the summer school holidays and we're now worried that the school may interfere if we take the kids on holiday before the summer.

We're planning the trip after one of the kids has finished his exams but he'll still have about a month remaining and the other kids are in primary school but we're thinking the schools may cause problems and was wondering what the consequences may be.
arsenal rivals Avatar
banned9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
Options

All Comments

(35) Jump to unreadPost a comment
Comments/page:
#1
The consequences are that your children may miss work that they need to receive a full education.
#2
I think they're allowed 10 days off anyway, just write and ask permission, explain that it's the only time you can go and show that you've considered their education by arranging it at the end of term and after the one child's exams - you should have no problems.
1 Like #3
Family holidays
Under education law parents may request absence for pupils from school due to a family holiday. It is for schools to determine whether or not they agree to a family holiday during term time. Schools may authorise absence for this purpose for up to 10 school days in any school year. In exceptional cases schools may agree to a lengthier period.
In considering any request for holiday absence, schools should look at individual circumstances and take account of:
the age of the pupil
the time of year proposed for the trip
its nature and parents' wishes
the overall attendance pattern of the pupil
the pupil's stage of education and progress.

http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/management/atoz/a/attendanceandabsence/
1 Like #4
it is frowned upon by most schools but you can fill in a holiday permission form before hand which will help, the school will look at circumstances such as what the kids will miss during the dates you have in mind and will let you know if they are missing anything important, if not they should give permission
banned#5
Haha, well our kids always say they don't want to go to school towards the end of the school year because they don't do anything, so they feel it's pointless.

The holiday will cost an extra £3,000 if we go at the end of July with unbearable heat and crazy crowds.
We're just worried incase the schools/council try and intervene or may attempt to do something after we return.
#6
get permission before you go, therefore theres nothing to worry about :thumbsup:
1 Like #7
Done it and doing it again this year you just have to play it safe if one of your kids has finished exams then you are not being a bad parent by taking a holiday the kid deserves it ofter all the pressure of exams and with the others in primary they will not miss much at that age take some work with you for them to do if it bothers you that they will miss work.

Its too bloody expensive in the kids holidays what a rip off i can get the same holiday for about £400 for 4 in term time same holiday in summer hols is £1500-2000 no wonder we take the kids out of school for a hard earned break. Tell the school its a booked family wedding abroad or some other story but not until the last minute good luck and enjoy your holiday we are off next week to tenerife for 9 days kids miss only 1 day out of school so not to bad.
banned#8
Thanks for that Chesso and everyone else, that's very helpful and was exactly what we needed to know.

My partner mentioned that she's already booked the holiday, as I've just asked her but we'll fill in the form anyway and request time off but lets just hope they don't reject us.
I'll make sure to mention that we're requesting the time off after the exams to make sure he's not missing anything crucial and we would prefere to go in the summer holidays but unfortunately we can't afford an extra £3,000 to wait an extra few weeks.

The older kid has done really well in school over the last year or so and is now in all the top sets in practically every lesson, so hopefully they'll understand it will be a nice reward for him.

I hope something will be done in the near future for families wanting to go on holiday, as it crazy how inflated the prices become for flights and hotels in such a short space of time.
banned#9
waterloo
Done it and doing it again this year you just have to play it safe if one of your kids has finished exams then you are not being a bad parent by taking a holiday the kid deserves it ofter all the pressure of exams and with the others in primary they will not miss much at that age take some work with you for them to do if it bothers you that they will miss work.

Its too bloody expensive in the kids holidays what a rip off i can get the same holiday for about £400 for 4 in term time same holiday in summer hols is £1500-2000 no wonder we take the kids out of school for a hard earned break. Tell the school its a booked family wedding abroad or some other story but not until the last minute good luck and enjoy your holiday we are off next week to tenerife for 9 days kids miss only 1 day out of school so not to bad.


We did that last year, we sent a letter to them the day we travelled but the school said something along the lines of they couldn't do anything because we informed them of the event at such a late stage but said we shouldn't do it again.
banned#10
arsenal rivals
Haha, well our kids always say they don't want to go to school towards the end of the school year because they don't do anything, so they feel it's pointless.

The holiday will cost an extra £3,000 if we go at the end of July with unbearable heat and crazy crowds.
We're just worried incase the schools/council try and intervene or may attempt to do something after we return.


I quite agree with you - as long as the timings are right in terms of the kids age and level they are in school. For the past 2 years, we have taken then a couple of days early before the Easter break. The only thing they have missed is fun and games - certainly no educating going on in their school at this time.

But as others have said - make sure you write to ask permission first. There should be a problem as long as their attendance record is good.
#11
thesaint
The consequences are that your children may miss work that they need to receive a full education.


I agree however teachers should think of that when they have * teachers training days just AFTER normal holidays!* come on get real if they was THAT concerned they would hold training IN the holidays. Add up how many of these take place a year and im sure you will find our children are missing approx 10 days off year! AS WELL AS THE HUGE AMOUNT OF HOLIDAYS.

Take your kids out of school for the holiday. Kids catch up quick.
#12
Why do school's pretend to care when they don't i know of a lad who only has got till the end of april to finish school and he's now decieded he doesn't want to go.......! I can't blame the school for that but what i can blame them is there lack of effort to try and get him there( Also his parents are to blame too!), So much for this "the parents will be took to court ruling"......! The lads parent had to write a letter to the school to tell them he wouldn't be coming back and they have accepted it so bascially they have washed there hands of him. So what i'm trying to say is why do school's pretend to care on one hand by saying you can't take your kid out of school here you can't take your kid out of schhol there, When their more then happy to let kids leave school perm................? Am i wrong here?
banned#13
pcnutta;1535156
I agree however teachers should think of that when they have * teachers training days just AFTER normal holidays!* come on get real if they was THAT concerned they would hold training IN the holidays. Add up how many of these take place a year and im sure you will find our children are missing approx 10 days off year! AS WELL AS THE HUGE AMOUNT OF HOLIDAYS.


Yup, 5 "Baker" Days, the odd "Polling Day" etc. It all adds up - but of course they dont matter!
#14
Done it many times without any problems. A couple of times due to evening flights we have had 10 authorised, 1 unauthorised but no problems from school.

My leave is rostered and not easy to swap for summer holidays and that is the reason I put on the form. As for lost school time, I think the kids benefit from sampling the local culture in Ibiza!!!!
#15
pcnutta
I agree however teachers should think of that when they have * teachers training days just AFTER normal holidays!* come on get real if they was THAT concerned they would hold training IN the holidays. Add up how many of these take place a year and im sure you will find our children are missing approx 10 days off year! AS WELL AS THE HUGE AMOUNT OF HOLIDAYS.

Take your kids out of school for the holiday. Kids catch up quick.


Just for the record - teachers are NOT paid for their holidays so why we should work/train in them is beyond me. Anyone else here go into work and not expect to be paid for it?
banned#16
Susannah;1535285
Just for the record - teachers are NOT paid for their holidays so why we should work/train in them is beyond me. Anyone else here go into work and not expect to be paid for it?


Are you saying that saleries paid are done so on a pro rata basis?
And yes, I often work hours Im not paid for. I'd imagine that applies to the majority of the population these days.
#17
pcnutta
I agree however teachers should think of that when they have * teachers training days just AFTER normal holidays!* come on get real if they was THAT concerned they would hold training IN the holidays. Add up how many of these take place a year and im sure you will find our children are missing approx 10 days off year! AS WELL AS THE HUGE AMOUNT OF HOLIDAYS.

Take your kids out of school for the holiday. Kids catch up quick.


:thumbsup:
#18
Think your right guv, I work in the NHS and often work over my hours and dont get paid.

also not always able to take off school holidays, means that we sometimes take our children out of school, obviously not during exam times. but I strongly feel that families need to spend quality time with each other, and children learn in many different environments not just school.

enjoy your holiday.
#19
Train Driver
Done it many times without any problems. A couple of times due to evening flights we have had 10 authorised, 1 unauthorised but no problems from school.

My leave is rostered and not easy to swap for summer holidays and that is the reason I put on the form. As for lost school time, I think the kids benefit from sampling the local culture in Ibiza!!!!

My son's junior school headmaster told me to phone in sick for him if we needed more than the 10 days allowed! :o :? :lol:
#20
Susannah
Just for the record - teachers are NOT paid for their holidays so why we should work/train in them is beyond me. Anyone else here go into work and not expect to be paid for it?



Hmm not paid for there holiday??
My best mate is a teacher and SHE gets paid:? Who on earth do you work for!
Classroom assistants dont get paid but teachers do... If was being paid for a fortnight off I wouldnt mind going in on one of them to do training....
#21
teachers do get paid. As someone who's prepared accounts for a teacher (also had a sideline job) there was money being paid in during the holidays for teaching
#22
Kids education is important but so too is a family holiday in my opinion. Due to nature of my hubbys job I am having to take kids out of school for 10 days end of may. My child is doing sats but luckily they will be finished by then. School has authorised it so its fine. I do have to laugh at some comments tho as surely ALL children are sick/ill at some stage during the school year-if we keep them off school for 2 weeks with chicken pox for example, are we bad parents and will they miss out on that much work ? If they are ill there is nothing you can do about it! have a great holiday!;-)
#23
allstar2
teachers do get paid. As someone who's prepared accounts for a teacher (also had a sideline job) there was money being paid in during the holidays for teaching

That doesn't necessarily mean that the teacher was paid for their holidays. I'm a classroom assistant and I'm not paid for holidays but I've chosen to have my salary payments spread out evenly over the year to make budgeting easier.
#24
T--J
That doesn't necessarily mean that the teacher was paid for their holidays. I'm a classroom assistant and I'm not paid for holidays but I've chosen to have my salary payments spread out evenly over the year to make budgeting easier.


classroom assistant and teachers are different. i would say that the amount coming in was due to 12 months payment and not 10 :whistling:
#25
allstar2
classroom assistant and teachers are different. i would say that the amount coming in was due to 12 months payment and not 10 :whistling:
I think know that ;-), I'm just pointing out that you can't assume someone is being paid for holidays just by the fact that they have income coming in every month.
#26
fair enough but from my perspective they were bein paid (i shall not go into how i know because i cant but i do)
#27
[QUOTE=arsenal rivals]Thanks for that Chesso and everyone else, that's very helpful and was exactly what we needed to know.
QUOTE]

You're welcome.
Lots of schools run ski weeks etc etc so very few will have a problem with a genuine family holiday as long as you follow procedures.
banned#28
T--J
That doesn't necessarily mean that the teacher was paid for their holidays. I'm a classroom assistant and I'm not paid for holidays but I've chosen to have my salary payments spread out evenly over the year to make budgeting easier.


We might all like to have 3 months off and have our salaries paid over the full 12! But the point you seemed to be conveying that teachers were unpaid during school holidays. Its all factored in to the salary - and also gives the opportunity to get paid extra for a second job should they wish!
banned#29
chesso;1536052
[QUOTE=arsenal rivals]Thanks for that Chesso and everyone else, that's very helpful and was exactly what we needed to know.
QUOTE]

You're welcome.
Lots of schools run ski weeks etc etc so very few will have a problem with a genuine family holiday as long as you follow procedures.


Yep, we'll get straight on that, do you think I should book the 11 school days off by saying the holiday will be cheaper and it's easier to fit around our work schedule or do you think we should state there's a family event abroad (I know the 11 days is just over the 10 day deadline)?

They shouldn't be able to say anything anyway, as they're trying to take the kids to France on a regular basis themselves.
One being to Disneyland, which was only a couple months ago and now they want to take them to a watersports holiday very soon once again, so it seems they either don't care or they also believe that experiencing different parts of the worlds culture and enjoying yourself can be just as beneficial as a classroom can be.
#30
guv
We might all like to have 3 months off and have our salaries paid over the full 12!
I think you'd have second thoughts if you saw my wage packet! :p :-D

But the point you seemed to be conveying that teachers were unpaid during school holidays. Its all factored in to the salary - and also gives the opportunity to get paid extra for a second job should they wish!
I've never have and never would say that teachers aren't paid for their holidays because I honestly don't know if they are or not. My point was that just because someone gets a regular salary every month, you can't assume that they are paid for their holidays because I get a regular monthly income and I'm definitely NOT paid for the holidays.
#31
arsenal rivals
Yep, we'll get straight on that, do you think I should book the 11 school days off by saying the holiday will be cheaper and it's easier to fit around our work schedule or do you think we should state there's a family event abroad (I know the 11 days is just over the 10 day deadline)?

They shouldn't be able to say anything anyway, as they're trying to take the kids to France on a regular basis themselves.
One being to Disneyland, which was only a couple months ago and now they want to take them to a watersports holiday very soon once again, so it seems they either don't care or they also believe that experiencing different parts of the worlds culture and enjoying yourself can be just as beneficial as a classroom can be.

Personally, I wouldn't mention the financial side of things, I would just say that those dates are the only ones you can have off work so it's the only opportunity you have to take a family holiday. OK, it's a little white lie but not as big as inventing an imaginary event which might come unstuck if the kids let the truth slip! :lol:
#32
Yep, we'll get straight on that, do you think I should book the 11 school days off by saying the holiday will be cheaper and it's easier to fit around our work schedule or do you think we should state there's a family event abroad (I know the 11 days is just over the 10 day deadline)?

[COLOR="Red"]Just say that those were the only weeks that you could get the same time off work. Agree with T-J[/COLOR]

They shouldn't be able to say anything anyway, as they're trying to take the kids to France on a regular basis themselves.
One being to Disneyland, which was only a couple months ago and now they want to take them to a watersports holiday very soon once again, so it seems they either don't care or they also believe that experiencing different parts of the worlds culture and enjoying yourself can be just as beneficial as a classroom can be.
[COLOR="red"]Quite so re school organised holidays!![/COLOR]:thumbsup:
#33
Also, don't know if anyone else has said this already but in my opinion it's very important that you dont TELL the school that you are going to take the kids out of school but rather ASK POLITELY they are more likely to comply easier. Offer to get the work your kids will miss out on so that they can catch up with it when you get back from holiday. That way you they won't be too disgruntled.:thumbsup:
#34
Sash6304
Offer to get the work your kids will miss out on so that they can catch up with it when you get back from holiday. That way you they won't be too disgruntled.:thumbsup:


You might well think this - but teachers might think something along the lines of - What, you're trolling off for a couple of weeks of extra holiday and you want us to organise the work that has been missed. Equals extra work for teachers, or how else are you thinking to 'offer to get the work'?
#35
Actually arsenal rivals, just been thinking about the 11 day thing. A school has some latitude but most will stick pretty rigidly to the 10 day guideline unless you can give a good reason for extension e.g. visiting relatives in Australia - so going for 3 weeks. Worst possible outcome is that the one day extra is put down as an unauthorised absence, but so is a day off ill if the school doesn't have parental confirmation. It's far from the end of the world!:)
I think it will be a very atypical school that makes any sort of a problem about this. You could always have your kids take a photo diary or holiday scrapbook into school to show their teachers!! :thumbsup:

Post a Comment

You don't need an account to leave a comment. Just enter your email address. We'll keep it private.

...OR log in with your social account

...OR comment using your social account

Thanks for your comment! Keep it up!
We just need to have a quick look and it will be live soon.
The community is happy to hear your opinion! Keep contributing!