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Me and my friend where in town looking for a job... then after decided to go for a swift pint. So we both get asked for ID as usual (lol) and my friends passport has been cut in the corner by the p… Read More
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banned8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
Me and my friend where in town looking for a job... then after decided to go for a swift pint.

So we both get asked for ID as usual (lol) and my friends passport has been cut in the corner by the passport office. Now the guy said he couldnt accept this. But we pointed out it still had his date of birth on and proves his age.

Now even the guy behind the bar admitted 'yes i know it proves his age' but i still cant accept it.

So the guy behind the bar knows Full well my friend is over 18 and even admitted it. yet wont serve him?? stupidist thing ever
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banned8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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#1
Why was it cut in the corner?
Was it valid or expired?
#2
Maybe he has previous with ya mate.
#3
they cut it when it has expired...but seeing it served as a legal documet before it shouldnt make a difference!!

silly man prob just didnt wanna....or was too FICK!
#4
Same as not accepting forces ID cards as proof of age, you ca go and risk life and limb for your cuntry but cant have a pint with your mates when you get home after a tour of duty!
banned#5
yeh it was in a stupid wetherspoons bar
#6
Serves you right for drinking (or trying to!) in Wetherspoons.

Did you manage to avoid catching fleas?
banned#7
tinkerbell28
The passport office do this to invalidate the passport, if it's replaced or cancelled for whatever reason or expires. Therefore legally it's not a valid form of id anymore, stupid but the bar tender was right.


lol but my point is, the guy admitted he knew my mate was over 18... the bartender KNOWS my mate is over 18. but wont server him.
#8
magicbeans
they cut it when it has expired...but seeing it served as a legal documet before it shouldnt make a difference!!

silly man prob just didnt wanna....or was too FICK!

If it has been cut because it has expired then they are
just following "normal" rules.
Proof of age is with a VALID passport..............
#9
if i was the bar person i wouldnt have served you neither...people need to show a valid form of ID...the passport is invalid...not worth the risk...some people dont understand the barperson and the company would get fined if it was a setup
#10
DangerGod
lol but my point is, the guy admitted he knew my mate was over 18... the bartender KNOWS my mate is over 18. but wont server him.


and also once a barperson has requested ID they have to see some....cant just change their mind
#11
tinkerbell28
The passport office do this to invalidate the passport, if it's replaced or cancelled for whatever reason or expires. Therefore legally it's not a valid form of id anymore, stupid but the bar tender was right.

+1 this is exactly what I was getting at.
When they "doubt" your age and ask for ID if you cannot
produce VALID id they cannot serve you.............
( not saying it's right just following "correct" procedure )
#12
Yup - sorry to say bartender was in his right's here.
banned#13
simon012
+1 this is exactly what I was getting at.
When they "doubt" your age and ask for ID if you cannot
produce VALID id they cannot serve you.............
( not saying it's right just following "correct" procedure )


i understand they ask for Valid ID, but it once was a valid form of ID. it still proves his age.
#14
what if his boss seen him allow an invalid form of id to be used to verify age? he could of lost his job mate give him a break
#15
DangerGod
i understand they ask for Valid ID, but it once was a valid form of ID. it still proves his age.

It's not proof of age unless it's Valid.
They are the rules sorry, it was not worth the risk
for the barman, he/she may have lost their job
#16
DangerGod
i understand they ask for Valid ID, but it once was a valid form of ID. it still proves his age.


You said it yourself right there...
banned#17
kungfu
what if his boss seen him allow an invalid form of id to be used to verify age? he could of lost his job mate give him a break


lol mate, if you were stood there and he was looking at us admitting he knew my mate was over 18 but wasnt gunna serve him with a little grin on his face im sure u wudda be a lil annoyed to...

Fair play if he said , look guys i cant accept it its not a valid form of ID. sorry
banned#18
Becksdawe
You said it yourself right there...


yes but do you or do you not agree, its proves his age? so whats the difference between valid and expired???
#19
DangerGod
lol mate, if you were stood there and he was looking at us admitting he knew my mate was over 18 but wasnt gunna serve him with a little grin on his face im sure u wudda be a lil annoyed to...

Fair play if he said , look guys i cant accept it its not a valid form of ID. sorry


lol unfortunately life is full of people like him mate , you just move on and let him have his moment of glory in that case :thumbsup:
#20
DangerGod
yes but do you or do you not agree, its proves his age? so whats the difference between valid and expired???


Yes it proves his age - that I agree with.

But it doesn't to the extent that they need a Valid form of I.D
banned#21
tinkerbell28
Some people are just planks like that. My hubby used to get that all the time with his RAF id, before he got his driving license and that is a legal, perfectly valid from of id, lots of bars have it as policy not to accept military id:x
Just deep breaths and move on the fact is if he asked for id, he could not back down and accept an invalid form of id, which this was.
Let him have is little power kicks and don't worry about it, life is full of people like it :thumbsup:


yeh true :)
#22
As I own run a pub let me say this
the passport was not valid and could not be accepted as proof of age
If the barman served you then he is committing an offence punishable by a fine not exceeding £1,000
The company DPS (designated premises supervisor ) is also liable for allowing the sale
The pub license is at risk of being lost.
All in all, the pub could be shut for serving someone under age. Do you think that it is worth the risk of accepting a invalid form of ID
#23
It's an instance of bureaucracy before brains.

But if the barman gets caught serving alcohol to someone without a valid proof of age and he requested it...he could be fined.

Hence the stupidity.
#24
ClarityofMind
It's an instance of bureaucracy before brains.

But if the barman gets caught serving alcohol to someone without a valid proof of age and he requested it...he could be fined.

Hence the stupidity.


also the police in Sheffield are now running a campaign to catch pubs out by giving under, 18s a valid ID card that belongs to someone else, for a test punches and then fining the offending bar staff and licence
#25
when my neice was 14 she was part of some police campaign where the kids were paid a tenner a time to go into a shop/bar and try to buy alcohol... she was served!!!

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