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This is random but.. anyone who has depression but eats an extremely healthy diet and takes vits etc?

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I'm trying to do some research into depression, and there's a lot of things pointing to poor nutrition and depression and I was just wondering if there was anyone who suffered from depression but has … Read More
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
I'm trying to do some research into depression, and there's a lot of things pointing to poor nutrition and depression and I was just wondering if there was anyone who suffered from depression but has always eaten an extremely healthy diet and takes vitamins etc. If you're one of those people, could you please contact me as it'd be interesting to find out. Thank you xxx
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#1
I think if you want to find a link between things like poor nutrition and depression you will find one wether there is a link or not.

I know my depression is down to a chemical imbalance thanks to a toxic thyroid, which has nothing to do with nutrition in the slightest.
#2
Kitten13
I think if you want to find a link between things like poor nutrition and depression you will find one wether there is a link or not.

I know my depression is down to a chemical imbalance thanks to a toxic thyroid, which has nothing to do with nutrition in the slightest.


I know there are loads of things that cause depression, but I just wondering if there were extremely healthy people out there who still suffered from it.
I've suffered from depression from a young age, and I've never actually been tested by my doctor for any illnesses, was just sort of shoved on tablets. I'm trying to do research into it and I'm questioning every aspect that I can find. I've had things happen to me in my life that could trigger depression, and it runs in my family too, but when I was younger my father fed me up on chocolate and fatty foods and I wondered if that was a link too.
#3
I think the link is more that when you are depressed, some people, couldnt care less about what they eat (if you eat at all), leading to eating foods that are convenient, quick, comfort foods etc.

My mum has severe bi-polar depression and would probably not eat if it wasnt for me nagging her and making most of her meals. Because I cook for her she eats really healthily, but if I didnt she either wouldnt bother or just have a bar of chocolate or something.

She used to eat really healthy, and so brought me up like that, before she had her breakdown.

Edit: Ohn and we are all vegetarian, but dont take vitamins as we get everything we need from our foods (doctors have confirmed this)
#4
kelly_o_fanatic
I think the link is more that when you are depressed, some people, couldnt care less about what they eat (if you eat at all), leading to eating foods that are convenient, quick, comfort foods etc.

My mum has severe bi-polar depression and would probably not eat if it wasnt for me nagging her and making most of her meals. Because I cook for her she eats really healthily, but if I didnt she either wouldnt bother or just have a bar of chocolate or something.

She used to eat really healthy, and so brought me up like that, before she had her breakdown.

Edit: Ohn and we are all vegetarian, but dont take vitamins as we get everything we need from our foods (doctors have confirmed this)


Has your mom had any tests about other illnesses that she could have. There was a link between coealiac's disease (which led me to the malnutrition), and there's loads of other diseases that have a link too. I think I'm going to press my doctor for some tests as although I had loads of councilling for my problems, I was never tested for anything else, and there could be an underlying problem which they just haven't bothered checking for.
#5
I would deffinetly speak to your doctor about getting some tests done.

I have had all of the symptoms of hashimoto's disease for years, and no one ever picked up on it, until i went for a full health check at the end of last year.

I would ask your doctor to book you in for a blood test for thyroid function.
#6
midjet666
Has your mom had any tests about other illnesses that she could have. There was a link between coealiac's disease (which led me to the malnutrition), and there's loads of other diseases that have a link too. I think I'm going to press my doctor for some tests as although I had loads of councilling for my problems, I was never tested for anything else, and there could be an underlying problem which they just haven't bothered checking for.


She had been tested for EVERYTHING, more than once. She has had this for 11 years now. Thanks though :thumbsup:
#7
Kitten13
I would deffinetly speak to your doctor about getting some tests done.

I have had all of the symptoms of hashimoto's disease for years, and no one ever picked up on it, until i went for a full health check at the end of last year.

I would ask your doctor to book you in for a blood test for thyroid function.


My doctor's useless!!! He misdiagnosed my cancer for nearly 2 years, thankfully it was a slow growing one but it still made me ill. I'm going to change him but I've got a low immune system and catch anything and everything that's going so don't get to go out that much to change doctors!! I asked him to test me for coeliac's disease as I get a painful stomach when I eat wheat etc but because I'm obese (my anti depressants helped me gain 11 stone in 5 years as my appetite increased so much) he said I didn't have it, yet on the internet there's a huge increase in obese coealiacs!

My mom's got depression too and I've always thought that I've mimicked her (although we both re-act differently with it) and she's had one thyroid test but it came back fine. I think I'm going to speak to my psychiatrist and see what tests he can do for me.
#8
I had (maybe have?) OCD and severe depression. I have taken tablets for years and now always feel incredibly normal. They did originally keep stopping my tablets but I became very ill again very quickly so now take them all the time. Mine is definitely a chemical imbalance - hence the tablets working so well. As for a link between diet and depression - I can't comment that much. I have been a vegetarian for years and always get my '5 a day'. The only link I have found is that if I miss a meal or go without food for about 6-8 hours (not including the nightime) then I begin to feel a bit odd, but then I think most people would!
#9
midjet666
I know there are loads of things that cause depression, but I just wondering if there were extremely healthy people out there who still suffered from it.
I've suffered from depression from a young age, and I've never actually been tested by my doctor for any illnesses, was just sort of shoved on tablets. I'm trying to do research into it and I'm questioning every aspect that I can find. I've had things happen to me in my life that could trigger depression, and it runs in my family too, but when I was younger my father fed me up on chocolate and fatty foods and I wondered if that was a link too.


I dont think that chocolate and fatty foods can CAUSE depression.

But feeling unhealthy and lethargic due to poor food intake wouldn't help when depressive feelings begin.

Of course healthy people feel depressed at times too.

I think it entirely normal and healthy that you are asking questions like this though, good for you x x
#10
ClarityofMind
I dont think that chocolate and fatty foods can CAUSE depression.

But feeling unhealthy and lethargic due to poor food intake wouldn't help when depressive feelings begin.

Of course healthy people feel depressed at times too.

I think it entirely normal and healthy that you are asking questions like this though, good for you x x


If you look, there's links between deficiencies in B vitamins (there's a load of them) and quite a few other vitamins, so fatty foods that don't contain these vitamins, could possibly cause depression. I know that healthy people feel depressed, but just wanted to research it some more. I know that there's sugar addiction and like all addictions, when you don't have it you feel depressed and low, but just wondered if eating a fantasticly healthy diet could help, and all the tests done etc could there be any other reasons for depression. I was trying to see if depression is mimicked or if it's events that have happened in the life, or the diet or what. We're given mind altering tablets to shut us up, but we're not usually tested properly for other deficiencies or illnesses that could cause the depression.
banned#11
midjet666
If you look, there's links between deficiencies in B vitamins (there's a load of them) and quite a few other vitamins, so fatty foods that don't contain these vitamins, could possibly cause depression. I know that healthy people feel depressed, but just wanted to research it some more. I know that there's sugar addiction and like all addictions, when you don't have it you feel depressed and low, but just wondered if eating a fantasticly healthy diet could help, and all the tests done etc could there be any other reasons for depression. I was trying to see if depression is mimicked or if it's events that have happened in the life, or the diet or what. We're given mind altering tablets to shut us up, but we're not usually tested properly for other deficiencies or illnesses that could cause the depression.


by the time depression is diagnosed the defincies could have stammed from the depression, poor diet etc,etc
#12
Feeling down and depressed can be a side effect of low iron (anaemia ) or lack of B vitamins ( like the lowness many women feel at the time of menstruation ).

But feeling depressed isn't restricted to these areas. Many people with a perfectly healthy diet also feel depressed too.

Depression may come as the reaction to a traumatic event or events within someones life or it may be a chemical inbalance or it may be the result of a correlation between the two. Many people feel depressed for many different reasons.

For a person suffering from any form of mental distress it is particularly important to have a good diet, get enough rest and attend to their day to day physical needs, cleanliness, tidiness. As when we start to let these things go depression becomes even more pervasive.

In general depression which is the result of a physical imbalance will very probably need treatment by medications or a mixture of medication and therapy, depression that comes as the result of something that happens TO you, such as the grief that follows losing someone you love, can usually be treated without medication- in order words, physical depression needs physical treatment. Having said that, many people respond to many treatments in different ways and it's really what suits YOU best and whether you wish to improve, of course x x
#13
Susannah
I had (maybe have?) OCD and severe depression. I have taken tablets for years and now always feel incredibly normal. They did originally keep stopping my tablets but I became very ill again very quickly so now take them all the time. Mine is definitely a chemical imbalance - hence the tablets working so well. As for a link between diet and depression - I can't comment that much. I have been a vegetarian for years and always get my '5 a day'. The only link I have found is that if I miss a meal or go without food for about 6-8 hours (not including the nightime) then I begin to feel a bit odd, but then I think most people would!


Have you had any tests done for any other health problems? Like I was saying earlier in a different post, there were loads of illnesses which cause depression but aren't usually picked up. I'm going to ask my doctor for more tests to be done as I've got other health problems too . I was just sort of handed some tablets and told to go away really! My mom pushed for me to see councillors and I have to push every time to see one now, as although I've been on tablets for nearly 6 years it's just not getting any easier and I'm trying to sort it out as it's affecting not only me but my son, my partner and our family. I can't work and it bugs me so much. I've tried getting a job from home but they're very rare and I don't really want to do dodgy sex lines lol. I'm now trying to write a book about depression and see if I can get to the route of mine and hopefully help others out too. The doctors are too quick to give us tablets and not give us any tests to see if there's any other reason!
banned#14
there are many people who are shoved on anti -d's in the hope they go away, so many doctors do this, as its so much cheaper and easier than getting people to really deal with whatever is going on, there are many, many reasons for depression, what one person can handle another cant, same as certain imbalances within us, i really dont think you can research something like this like you are trying to do, we are all individuals and all have different needs etc,etc
#15
My husband says I could do the dodgy sex lines whilst simultaneously cleaning the toilet and scrubbing out the kitchen cupboards it'd come so easily to me... I don't think that's a compliment! lol

If you were just handed out anti-depressants and not offered any other form of therapy also, I'd say that was poor GPing. There are many other things you could consider first... herbs such as St Johns Wort is often helpful for people feeling depressed ( DO NOT take this within 6 months of taking any other psychiatric drugs ) and alternative therapies such as acupuncture can help some people feel less depressed. Also, increasing the amount of exercise we take releases those "feel good" endorphins.

Many GPs now will check new patients with blood tests to check for thyroid issues or unusual amounts of hormones before they write out a prescription. Counselling services on the NHS are still difficult to get in some places and have to be priority cases many times or wait a long time to access, but this is improving slowly.
#16
ClarityofMind
Feeling down and depressed can be a side effect of low iron (anaemia ) or lack of B vitamins ( like the lowness many women feel at the time of menstruation ).

But feeling depressed isn't restricted to these areas. Many people with a perfectly healthy diet also feel depressed too.

Depression may come as the reaction to a traumatic event or events within someones life or it may be a chemical inbalance or it may be the result of a correlation between the two. Many people feel depressed for many different reasons.

For a person suffering from any form of mental distress it is particularly important to have a good diet, get enough rest and attend to their day to day physical needs, cleanliness, tidiness. As when we start to let these things go depression becomes even more pervasive.

In general depression which is the result of a physical imbalance will very probably need treatment by medications or a mixture of medication and therapy, depression that comes as the result of something that happens TO you, such as the grief that follows losing someone you love, can usually be treated without medication- in order words, physical depression needs physical treatment. Having said that, many people respond to many treatments in different ways and it's really what suits YOU best and whether you wish to improve, of course x x


I had some traumatic events- I had cancer and my parents divorced (I was 14) and still haven't got over it now (7 years later). I've seen quite a few councillors as it was a result of something that happened to me, yet they still put me on tablets which has really only made me worse. I've gained 11 stone, so I'm now 20 stone, my tablets are used to treat anorexics and the appetite it gives me is ridiculous. I've recently come off them as I'm pregnant, and *touch wood* I'm feeling less depressed off them than on them, but I've been really argumentative (not sure if it's pregnancy hormones or depression or what!) my psychiatrist hasn't helped me, my GP doesn't want to know, and the only one who wants to help me is my psychologist. I've lost half a stone since coming off them about 2 months ago, and I'm 6 months pregnant and my appetites really reduced, I've also gone off chocolate!!

I want to see if there's any tests or anything that can be done to prevent depression and help to ease it. As I believe there's some people who are malnutritioned and the depression is from that, and then there's others who have illnesses which aren't detected but the people are just given tablets to ease it off- it seems to me it's like the easy way out for the doctors instead of genuinely helping us. I know that the doctor hasn't physically force fed me, but the strength of the appetite was so over-whelming and it's really ruined my body craving such sugary and fatty foods. My mom read somewhere that the companies that manufacture the tablets, when they first started out, they realised that they increased the appetite and had other terrible side effects, but instead of losing money they just went ahead and manufactured them. In the long run though, you gain weight and get more depressed as you eat fatty foods and hate what you see!! It's a vicious circle.
#17
congratulations on your pregnancy x x

You have another reason to be happy now, that little one can feel when you're agitated, so just sooooooothe, no arguments :)
#18
ClarityofMind
congratulations on your pregnancy x x

You have another reason to be happy now, that little one can feel when you're agitated, so just sooooooothe, no arguments :)


I'm trying!! Me and my mom have argued a lot recently, but she suffers depression too so it's a bit weird and awkward for us both. I'm just trying to pass my time and see if there's anything else I can do to get rid of the depression. I'm trying to go out more but I suffer from anxiety attacks so it's difficult, but I think I'm slowly getting there :thumbsup:
#19
midjet666
I'm trying!! Me and my mom have argued a lot recently, but she suffers depression too so it's a bit weird and awkward for us both. I'm just trying to pass my time and see if there's anything else I can do to get rid of the depression. I'm trying to go out more but I suffer from anxiety attacks so it's difficult, but I think I'm slowly getting there :thumbsup:


do you still live with your mum? she may be feeling anxious for you too.

i can just imagine what I'll be like when my daughters have babies. My hubby will have to take me abroad or summin lol
#20
ClarityofMind
do you still live with your mum? she may be feeling anxious for you too.

i can just imagine what I'll be like when my daughters have babies. My hubby will have to take me abroad or summin lol


lol, no I haven't done for 18 months. I've got a 3 year old already, and I live with my partner in our own 3 bed house. She's got a lot of things happening in her life at the moment so I know it's stressful for her, but she's saying it's all ok!! I have asked for her to go and see someone to talk to,she sees her psychiatrist every 3 months but it's in and out in 5 mins literally so it's not helping her really.
banned#21
oh and thanks for your input to sassie
#22
midjet666
lol, no I haven't done for 18 months. I've got a 3 year old already, and I live with my partner in our own 3 bed house. She's got a lot of things happening in her life at the moment so I know it's stressful for her, but she's saying it's all ok!! I have asked for her to go and see someone to talk to,she sees her psychiatrist every 3 months but it's in and out in 5 mins literally so it's not helping her really.


you're at an important time at the moment, you have to put yourself and your kiddies and your partner first.

Does your Mum live alone?
#23
sassie
there are many people who are shoved on anti -d's in the hope they go away, so many doctors do this, as its so much cheaper and easier than getting people to really deal with whatever is going on, there are many, many reasons for depression, what one person can handle another cant, same as certain imbalances within us, i really dont think you can research something like this like you are trying to do, we are all individuals and all have different needs etc,etc


sassie
oh and thanks for your input to sassie


sorry Sass I didn't mean to monopolise the OP, your points were totally spot on x x

Many old school GPs need a kick up the jacksie where mental health issues are concerned. In my experience the younger new ones coming through though are much better informed.
#24
sassie
oh and thanks for your input to sassie


have I upset you?
#25
ClarityofMind
you're at an important time at the moment, you have to put yourself and your kiddies and your partner first.

Does your Mum live alone?


No my mom's got a partner and 2 dogs. I'm her only child so I know she worries about me , but she's got loads of other things going on atm too.
#26
midjet666
No my mom's got a partner and 2 dogs. I'm her only child so I know she worries about me , but she's got loads of other things going on atm too.


Do you get on well with the partner? If so have a quick word with him and let him know you're worrying about your Mum, ( tell him it's cos you're a worry wort or something minor like that ) and that you'd appreciate it if he'd let you know if everything is okay or if theres anything that comes up that you SHOULD worry about as with the pregnancy you need to be limiting the stresses you are under of course.

Hopefully he can be supportive to you both in this way.

And be there for your Mum, but don't Mummy HER. She's a big girl, she'll be just fine.

Don't worry everything will be okay x x
#27
ClarityofMind
Do you get on well with the partner? If so have a quick word with him and let him know you're worrying about your Mum, ( tell him it's cos you're a worry wort or something minor like that ) and that you'd appreciate it if he'd let you know if everything is okay or if theres anything that comes up that you SHOULD worry about as with the pregnancy you need to be limiting the stresses you are under of course.

Hopefully he can be supportive to you both in this way.

And be there for your Mum, but don't Mummy HER. She's a big girl, she'll be just fine.

Don't worry everything will be okay x x


I get on really well with my stepdad but whenever I ask if she's ok, he says she's fine. I don't think he really notices to be honest. He really cares for my mom and looks after her though. Me and my mom always talk about anything and everything, and we're too similar with a lot of things which starts us off arguing!! My psychologist told me not to mummy her! I do sometimes, but I'm really dippy most of the time so she does mummy me lol.
#28
midjet666
I get on really well with my stepdad but whenever I ask if she's ok, he says she's fine. I don't think he really notices to be honest. He really cares for my mom and looks after her though. Me and my mom always talk about anything and everything, and we're too similar with a lot of things which starts us off arguing!! My psychologist told me not to mummy her! I do sometimes, but I'm really dippy most of the time so she does mummy me lol.


lol, you are a pair!

I think you sound quite similar to me and my daughter. We are so alike in many ways so we rub each other up the wrong way terribly at times lol

Also, I think it sounds like your Mum doesnt want you worrying about her while you're pregnant, and your stepdad is the same. Rely on him to let you know if you DO need to worry. Otherwise just slow down and take a breath and tell yourself everything is fine :)

Now just relax and enjoy being pregnant. Not much longer to go now. Do you know what you're having? ( my hubby would always say... "I think its going to be.. a baby! " whenever anyone askked us that question! lol )
#29
ClarityofMind
lol, you are a pair!

I think you sound quite similar to me and my daughter. We are so alike in many ways so we rub each other up the wrong way terribly at times lol

Also, I think it sounds like your Mum doesnt want you worrying about her while you're pregnant, and your stepdad is the same. Rely on him to let you know if you DO need to worry. Otherwise just slow down and take a breath and tell yourself everything is fine :)

Now just relax and enjoy being pregnant. Not much longer to go now. Do you know what you're having? ( my hubby would always say... "I think its going to be.. a baby! " whenever anyone askked us that question! lol )


lol@ your husband! It's the kind of thing my stepdad would say! I really don't know, the baby had the cord between it's legs and they were shut so I think it was a very private baby lol. My son's adament that it's a girl and has been since the beginning. Also this one's much more lively than my son and a lot of people have said that girls are livelier- I'm feeling really sick atm from the baby moving so much! Good old rennies! lol.
Anyway this shall be my last post for a while as OH wants the computer and I'm going to lie down and watch TV!!! :thumbsup: Have a good evening all xxxxx
#30
midjet666
lol@ your husband! It's the kind of thing my stepdad would say! I really don't know, the baby had the cord between it's legs and they were shut so I think it was a very private baby lol. My son's adament that it's a girl and has been since the beginning. Also this one's much more lively than my son and a lot of people have said that girls are livelier- I'm feeling really sick atm from the baby moving so much! Good old rennies! lol.
Anyway this shall be my last post for a while as OH wants the computer and I'm going to lie down and watch TV!!! :thumbsup: Have a good evening all xxxxx


Have a lovely evening sweetie x x
#31
You mentioned that your mum has depression as well, do you think -

a) Its a total coincidence
b) Its hereditary
c) Living with someone with depression has led to you getting depression

Sort of like the nature versus nurture thing. I am just wondering because it seems that a lot of people with parents who suffer from depression seem to go on to suffer with depression themselves. I am suffering slightly with depression (whereas mum has very severe bipolar) and its difficult to say whether it is hereditary or just a result of the situation I am living in (I am the main carer for my mum and have been since I was about 12, do EVERYTHING around the house, and have very poor health myself)
1 Like #32
kelly_o_fanatic
You mentioned that your mum has depression as well, do you think -

a) Its a total coincidence
b) Its hereditary
c) Living with someone with depression has led to you getting depression

Sort of like the nature versus nurture thing. I am just wondering because it seems that a lot of people with parents who suffer from depression seem to go on to suffer with depression themselves. I am suffering slightly with depression (whereas mum has very severe bipolar) and its difficult to say whether it is hereditary or just a result of the situation I am living in (I am the main carer for my mum and have been since I was about 12, do EVERYTHING around the house, and have very poor health myself)


To be honest that's what I'm trying to find out! It's called mimicking when it's option c, and that's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. My dad was always a very pessimistic person, and my mom was very depressed for ages, she had a nervous breakdown when I was about 4 and her nerves was really bad. I'd drop a plate and she would scream the place down at me. She's been so apologetic ever since but it was an illness and I know she couldn't help it. I've been there myself now and I understand what she was going through (well sort of, mine was no where near as extreme as hers, and she had to put up with my dad being an ar$e too lol). I mean she never hit me and tbh I was always spoilt with toys and anything I wanted, and emotionally I was spoilt too. There's not a day goes by without her saying she loves me, and she's always told me how proud of me she is, and I continue to do the same with my son (and this other one on the way too). My nan wouldn't tell her or her bro/sis that she loved them, she would buy them instead. My mom just wanted a hug or to be told she was loved and it really hurt and damaged her psychologically for many years. She's only really accepted it in the last 10 years and her depression isn't as bad as it was.

As for your depression, I'd say it sounds like the situation you're in, but then I'm no doctor! lol. I mean you've been relied on from a young age and have been playing mom for years when you needed someone to be your mom. You've had to grow up quick and be stable emotionally and you're still caring for your mom today when you need someone to care for you. It's inevitable to get you down and make you depressed as everyone needs some caring for, and some time out to be them and not mom 24/7. It'd be like having a baby at the age of 12 and no one really helping you out, except this time it was your mom you was looking after and it's a weird situation as you expect your mom to care for you and not the other way round. Also it's more difficult than looking after a baby as you sort of take to it naturally and if not there's a lot of help and support out there (and you can always leave with a baby sitter for some free time!!) but with your mom, it's emotional and there's not many help leaflets/books out there to say "this is how you deal with it". You're hurt as you can see your mom suffering, and because it's not a simple illness that will get better with a bandage it's harder to cope with.

You've done so well to continue to care for your mother, there are some who would have walked away, and like me and mom we argue none stop because of ours lol. It's not an easy thing to be a carer when it's a physical condition, but it's just as hard if not worse when it's mental health as it's not only physically draining, but emotionally draining too. Are there any support workers in your community? I'm sure you could ask some of them to come in and help ease the stress from you slightly. I know you'll want to carry on and care for your mom, but simple things like doing some housework or cooking a meal or two which would be a huge relief to you but there should be people able to help out.
#33
midjet666
Have you had any tests done for any other health problems? Like I was saying earlier in a different post, there were loads of illnesses which cause depression but aren't usually picked up. I'm going to ask my doctor for more tests to be done as I've got other health problems too . I was just sort of handed some tablets and told to go away really! My mom pushed for me to see councillors and I have to push every time to see one now, as although I've been on tablets for nearly 6 years it's just not getting any easier and I'm trying to sort it out as it's affecting not only me but my son, my partner and our family. I can't work and it bugs me so much. I've tried getting a job from home but they're very rare and I don't really want to do dodgy sex lines lol. I'm now trying to write a book about depression and see if I can get to the route of mine and hopefully help others out too. The doctors are too quick to give us tablets and not give us any tests to see if there's any other reason!

I was probably very lucky in that I was offered and did have lots of tests at the time of my initial problems. A slightly underactive thyroid was found but I do not take medication for this. Apart from that I appear to be in robust good health. There is, I believe, a strong inherited link - my family is awash with people with mental health problems, OCD, bipolar, schizophrenic, depressed - all can be found in my family. I think that I am relatively straightforward in that I am helped so much by medication. I have found, however, that the now old style tricyclic antidepressants are much better for me. Prozac and its derivatives made me feel worse. I take dosulepin and clomiprmaine (low doses of both) and really feel fine. I do have mood swings but these are within normal boundaries. After quite a few years of constant terror and suicidal thoughts, I know how lucky I am to feel so well.
Over the counter stuff that I take are: multivitamins and minerals, co-enzyme Q10, St. John 's Wort and evening primrose oil. I take all of these each day.
#34
Susannah
I was probably very lucky in that I was offered and did have lots of tests at the time of my initial problems. A slightly underactive thyroid was found but I do not take medication for this. Apart from that I appear to be in robust good health. There is, I believe, a strong inherited link - my family is awash with people with mental health problems, OCD, bipolar, schizophrenic, depressed - all can be found in my family. I think that I am relatively straightforward in that I am helped so much by medication. I have found, however, that the now old style tricyclic antidepressants are much better for me. Prozac and its derivatives made me feel worse. I take dosulepin and clomiprmaine (low doses of both) and really feel fine. I do have mood swings but these are within normal boundaries. After quite a few years of constant terror and suicidal thoughts, I know how lucky I am to feel so well.
Over the counter stuff that I take are: multivitamins and minerals, co-enzyme Q10, St. John 's Wort and evening primrose oil. I take all of these each day.


I'm tempted to try St John's Wort. I;m going to write down the medicines you take and see if I can afford them (don't work and have 1 son and another baby on the way lol). At the moment with being pregnant, I'm feeling good touch wood. Saying that, I have suicidal days, and can be feeling good then suddenly think I could kill myself by doing .... but I'm not brave enough. They say it's a cowards way out, but until you're in the situation you realise you have to be brave to do it!
It's weird just how many families have it. My nan suffered from anxiety (she's now 70 and still suffers, the only way she got a job was going to one directly opposite her house, and my grandad still goes and collects her after 20+ years of working there). She paid £40 a time to see a private psychiatrist as mental health problems were so taboo back then, her mortgage cost £40 a month I think it was so you imagine just how much it was. My great nan (my nan's mom) suffered anxiety too, but she kinda worked through it. I think she ended up going into mental hospitals a few times, if I remember rightly my mom told me she went in and came out and sort of mimicked the other patients.There was one woman who was "playing" tennis as she was sat there. It's quite scary to think that they put everyone with a mental health problem in together without a thought of how it would affect the other patients.
I'm glad you've got it under control. I feel more "normal" being off my tablets, but I don't know how much of that is down to my pregnancy hormones etc. I felt the same when I had my son, but after having him I went back on the tablets virtually straight away.
My proper GP isn't very good in my opinion, but if I have to go I go and see the locum. I had to have blood tests recently and each time my white blood cell count has come back slightly high, so the locum noticed when I went last time, but the time before, I went to my GP and he had passed the tests and said I was fine although I've been really ill. I've got another appointment tonight with the locum and I'm going to ask him for some antibiotics. I don't normally but I've been really ill and nothing is kicking what I've got! My son had a cold for 3 days (he's only 3), and passed it onto me and I've had it for over a week and I've had terrible nights sleep as I can't breath! I just can't fight anything off!!
banned#35
Hi midget, hope you feel better soon.

I am feeling a bit down at the moment but I am trying to battle it x x
#36
DLM
Hi midget, hope you feel better soon.

I am feeling a bit down at the moment but I am trying to battle it x x


Hiya,
I hope you feel better. They reckon that spending a bit of time in the sun everyday can boost your mood, have you tried doing that? Anything's worth a go!!
banned#37
midjet666
Hiya,
I hope you feel better. They reckon that spending a bit of time in the sun everyday can boost your mood, have you tried doing that? Anything's worth a go!!


Yes x x
#38
Just come back to this thread to see if you've updated at all. Really hope you're feeling not too bad. I really do understand how awful mental health problems are and can still remember the internal terror that haunted me. I'd say keep trying different things - I'm so lucky that something works for me. Worth shopping around for the stuff I take - supermarkets are good for Coenzyme Q10 and I buy the rest from Wilkinsons.
xx
#39
midjet666
To be honest that's what I'm trying to find out! It's called mimicking when it's option c, and that's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. My dad was always a very pessimistic person, and my mom was very depressed for ages, she had a nervous breakdown when I was about 4 and her nerves was really bad. I'd drop a plate and she would scream the place down at me. She's been so apologetic ever since but it was an illness and I know she couldn't help it. I've been there myself now and I understand what she was going through (well sort of, mine was no where near as extreme as hers, and she had to put up with my dad being an ar$e too lol). I mean she never hit me and tbh I was always spoilt with toys and anything I wanted, and emotionally I was spoilt too. There's not a day goes by without her saying she loves me, and she's always told me how proud of me she is, and I continue to do the same with my son (and this other one on the way too). My nan wouldn't tell her or her bro/sis that she loved them, she would buy them instead. My mom just wanted a hug or to be told she was loved and it really hurt and damaged her psychologically for many years. She's only really accepted it in the last 10 years and her depression isn't as bad as it was.

As for your depression, I'd say it sounds like the situation you're in, but then I'm no doctor! lol. I mean you've been relied on from a young age and have been playing mom for years when you needed someone to be your mom. You've had to grow up quick and be stable emotionally and you're still caring for your mom today when you need someone to care for you. It's inevitable to get you down and make you depressed as everyone needs some caring for, and some time out to be them and not mom 24/7. It'd be like having a baby at the age of 12 and no one really helping you out, except this time it was your mom you was looking after and it's a weird situation as you expect your mom to care for you and not the other way round. Also it's more difficult than looking after a baby as you sort of take to it naturally and if not there's a lot of help and support out there (and you can always leave with a baby sitter for some free time!!) but with your mom, it's emotional and there's not many help leaflets/books out there to say "this is how you deal with it". You're hurt as you can see your mom suffering, and because it's not a simple illness that will get better with a bandage it's harder to cope with.

You've done so well to continue to care for your mother, there are some who would have walked away, and like me and mom we argue none stop because of ours lol. It's not an easy thing to be a carer when it's a physical condition, but it's just as hard if not worse when it's mental health as it's not only physically draining, but emotionally draining too. Are there any support workers in your community? I'm sure you could ask some of them to come in and help ease the stress from you slightly. I know you'll want to carry on and care for your mom, but simple things like doing some housework or cooking a meal or two which would be a huge relief to you but there should be people able to help out.


Makes a change for someone to understand (rather than just say that they do), but I was nodding along with all of that.

Mum does have support worker coming out once a week, supposed to take her out somewhere. But mum is agoraphobic (as well as claustrophobic!) and has severe anxiety, so this just makes her worse. The day before she is really stressed knowing it is coming, and that day she is really bad, and the day after she is exhausted.

I have an older brother, but he has moved 4 hours away. Its ok for him, he knows I am here to look after her. Then again, he didnt do anything while he was here anyway and often makes things worse.

My aunty has cyclical depression, and mine seems to be more like that than bipolar like my mum. Definitely only mild whatever it is. Wish the doctors would take me seriously though, all they ask about is how my mum is and how my other health problems are. They think that as long as everything else is ok, I wont be depressed.

I am looking into volunteering opportunities, to get me out of the house for a bit. I am limited in what I can do though because of my health. Would be worried the whole time I was out (I am always scared of what I am going home to) but I think it would do us both good

Susannah
I was probably very lucky in that I was offered and did have lots of tests at the time of my initial problems. A slightly underactive thyroid was found but I do not take medication for this. Apart from that I appear to be in robust good health. There is, I believe, a strong inherited link - my family is awash with people with mental health problems, OCD, bipolar, schizophrenic, depressed - all can be found in my family. I think that I am relatively straightforward in that I am helped so much by medication. I have found, however, that the now old style tricyclic antidepressants are much better for me. Prozac and its derivatives made me feel worse. I take dosulepin and clomiprmaine (low doses of both) and really feel fine. I do have mood swings but these are within normal boundaries. After quite a few years of constant terror and suicidal thoughts, I know how lucky I am to feel so well.
Over the counter stuff that I take are: multivitamins and minerals, co-enzyme Q10, St. John 's Wort and evening primrose oil. I take all of these each day.


Have to be careful taking St Johns Wart with other medication for depression though as it can react with some of them

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