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Trump flag burning must have consequences

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Donald J. TrumpVerified account [email protected] 11h11 hours ago Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in… Read More
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6m, 3w agoPosted 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Donald J. TrumpVerified account [email protected] 11h11 hours ago
Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!
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6m, 3w agoPosted 6 months, 3 weeks ago
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I think if you live in a country and want to burn it's flag, you really shouldn't be living there for your own sake.

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#1
The only problem is this would mean changing the 1st amendment as its protected by freedom of speech.
1 Like #2
Isn't it actually illegal to burn the flag in the US? I'm sure I've heard that somewhere.

Edited By: stuarthanley on Nov 29, 2016 23:13
#3
The Supreme Court has twice affirmed the right to desecrate the American flag as a form of free speech -- a historically contentious issue -- in cases before the high court in 1989 and 1990.
In the 1989 case "Texas v. Johnson," the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that flag burning was a form of "symbolic speech" protected by the First Amendment. The ruling came after an appeal from Gregory Johnson, who had been convicted by a Texas court of violating a state law that prohibited the "desecration of a venerated object" such as the US flag.
The following year, in "United states v. Eichman," the top court again affirmed the right to burn the flag when it ruled 5-4 that the Flag Protection Act of 1989 -- passed by Congress in response to the Johnson decision -- was unconstitutional.

Still, banning flag-burning has drawn mainstream support before. The Flag Protection Act of 1989 was supported at the time by President George H.W. Bush, before it was ruled unconstitutional, and the Flag Protection Act of 2005, another failed attempt to criminalize flag burning, was co-sponsored by then-Sen. Hillary Clinton.
#4
stuarthanley
Isn't it actually illegal to burn the flag on the US? I'm sure I've heard that somewhere.
Thats what i just typed and the scary thing is in January after the inauguration he will have the football( gulp)
#5
The point is he is literally just tweeting off the cuff not realizing the constitutional consequences
banned#6
archer1204
stuarthanley
Isn't it actually illegal to burn the flag on the US? I'm sure I've heard that somewhere.
Thats what i just typed and the scary thing is in January after the inauguration he will have the football( gulp)

He may have the football but it doesnt mean he knows how to play with it...

He will just take the ball home in a huff
2 Likes #7
Think about it, making it a crime to burn a piece of coloured fabric, crazy world we live in, and this is from a so called 1st world civilised society.
1 Like #8
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
stuarthanley
Isn't it actually illegal to burn the flag on the US? I'm sure I've heard that somewhere.
Thats what i just typed and the scary thing is in January after the inauguration he will have the football( gulp)
He may have the football but it doesnt mean he knows how to play with it...
He will just take the ball home in a huff
As long as he doesn't do anything stupid with the football and just hands it onto the next person intact
banned#9
haritori
Think about it, making it a crime to burn a piece of coloured fabric, crazy world we live in, and this is from a so called 1st world civilised society.

There would be outcry in England if a bunch of extremists burnt our flag outside Parliament
5 Likes #10
I think if you live in a country and want to burn it's flag, you really shouldn't be living there for your own sake.
banned 1 Like #11
archer1204
As long as he doesn't do anything stupid with the football and just hands it onto the next person intact

I am still betting on a quick assassination, so long as he isnt handling the ball at the time & the ball being in danger... All will be good.
#12
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
#13
YouDontWantToKnow
haritori
Think about it, making it a crime to burn a piece of coloured fabric, crazy world we live in, and this is from a so called 1st world civilised society.
There would be outcry in England if a bunch of extremists burnt our flag outside Parliament
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/197066/protesters-storm-british-embassy-iran.jpg
http://en.europenews.dk/_ws/mediabase/_ts_1434707047000/archive/files/Muslims_Burn_Union_Jack.jpg

Edited By: archer1204 on Nov 29, 2016 23:29
1 Like #14
YouDontWantToKnow
haritori
Think about it, making it a crime to burn a piece of coloured fabric, crazy world we live in, and this is from a so called 1st world civilised society.
There would be outcry in England if a bunch of extremists burnt our flag outside Parliament

Yeah suppose your right, we are all too fickle I guess :(.
1 Like #15
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
haritori
Think about it, making it a crime to burn a piece of coloured fabric, crazy world we live in, and this is from a so called 1st world civilised society.
There would be outcry in England if a bunch of extremists burnt our flag outside Parliament
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/197066/protesters-storm-british-embassy-iran.jpg

Lovely, it inspires me to burn the Qur'an.
banned 1 Like #16
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
haritori
Think about it, making it a crime to burn a piece of coloured fabric, crazy world we live in, and this is from a so called 1st world civilised society.
There would be outcry in England if a bunch of extremists burnt our flag outside Parliament
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/197066/protesters-storm-british-embassy-iran.jpg


Iran
#17
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
haritori
Think about it, making it a crime to burn a piece of coloured fabric, crazy world we live in, and this is from a so called 1st world civilised society.
There would be outcry in England if a bunch of extremists burnt our flag outside Parliament
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/197066/protesters-storm-british-embassy-iran.jpg
Iran
london 2004 http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00109/81870092_extremists_109519c.jpg
banned 2 Likes #18
archer1204
london 2004

Yep. Outcry & probably jailed for benefit fraud
1 Like #19
archer1204
stuarthanley
Isn't it actually illegal to burn the flag on the US? I'm sure I've heard that somewhere.
Thats what i just typed and the scary thing is in January after the inauguration he will have the football( gulp)

The guy has successfully dealt with all kinds of shady characters be they businessmen, regimes, politicians all across the world for decades. Romney was against him all the way, yet he's considering taking him on as SOS. He's not a despot or dictator...he's a businessman.

Yet delicate flowers actually think he's going to unlock the case & press the red button...it ain't ever going to happen unless the American mainland was attacked by a foreign power. Even then, they'd most likely use conventional weapons to send said country back to the stone age.

Clinton wanted to establish an immediate no fly zone over Syria. Which would mean attacking Russian jets. What do you think would have happened there! She also wanted to go into conflict with the Iranians. World is far safer with Trump than Clinton. Heck, Obozo also bombed 7 nations in his 8 years at the helm. The only nations that should fear Trump are China & Mexico because he's looking to take jobs away from them & send them back to America.
#20
Although it is free speech as per US courts IMHO if you burn a national flag you are showing disrespect to that nation and if you are a citizen of that nation your citizenship should be revoked (irrespective of your nationality) and you should be forced to leave and find your own country/support


The majority of these flag burners don't work and don't give back to society or are of the snowflake generation or immigrants. Just a pity conscription was cancelled which would teach these scumbags about respect and hard work.

And remember I said "IMHO"
banned#21
philphil61
Although it is free speech as per US courts IMHO if you burn a national flag you are showing disrespect to that nation

In England it is breech of the peace at least.
#22
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.

Understanding of American politics/judiciary -10

Edited By: RossD89 on Nov 29, 2016 23:46
#23
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics -10
Explain further then
#24
stuarthanley
Isn't it actually illegal to burn the flag in the US? I'm sure I've heard that somewhere.

Many police for es have a day set aside each year for citizens to take "retired" flags where there're burned. Retired flags are tatty and not deemed suitable to represent the nation. ironically made in China no doubt.
banned#25
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics -10
Explain further then

Bringing in new laws - easy

Changing old laws - very difficult
#26
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics/judiciary -10
Who is the highest court in USA
banned#27
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics/judiciary -10
Who is the highest court in USA

Supreme

But first you need to get it through 2 houses (like ours) which both adamant they will not violate the Bill of Rights
#28
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics/judiciary -10
Who is the highest court in USA
Supreme
But first you need to get it through 2 houses (like ours) which both adamant they will not violate the Bill of Rights
Why are you answering for Ross
#29
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics -10
Explain further then

Okay.

From what you said it seems like you don't have much knowledge of American politics and the American Judiciary system

Would you like to expand on what you said?
#30
RossD89
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics -10
Explain further then
Okay.
From what you said it seems like you don't have much knowledge of American politics and the American Judiciary system
Would you like to expand on what you said?
So enlighten me then
banned#31
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross

My bad?
1 Like #32
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross
My bad?
No offence but still waiting on Ross
#33
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics -10
Explain further then
Okay.
From what you said it seems like you don't have much knowledge of American politics and the American Judiciary system
Would you like to expand on what you said?
So enlighten me then

How can I enlighten you on what you said when you haven't enlightened me?
#34
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross
My bad?
No offence but still waiting on Ross

It's okay, I have answered and I am now waiting on you after you tried to deflect. :)
#35
RossD89
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
He will in the next few years have the say over the next few supreme court of justices and then they will have the balance then all bets are off the table anything can get passed.
Understanding of American politics -10
Explain further then
Okay.

From what you said it seems like you don't have much knowledge of American politics and the American Judiciary system

Would you like to expand on what you said?
What Did John Boehner say about SCOTUS and the POTUS?
#36
RossD89
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross
My bad?
No offence but still waiting on Ross
It's okay, I have answered and I am now waiting on you after you tried to deflect. :)
Is that what you call answering by asking me a question
#37
RossD89
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross
My bad?
No offence but still waiting on Ross
It's okay, I have answered and I am now waiting on you after you tried to deflect. :)
Are you going to answer my question
#38
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross
My bad?
No offence but still waiting on Ross
It's okay, I have answered and I am now waiting on you after you tried to deflect. :)
Is that what you call answering by asking me a question

This is the first question which you have asked me.

What other answers should I have provided? :|
#39
RossD89
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross
My bad?
No offence but still waiting on Ross
It's okay, I have answered and I am now waiting on you after you tried to deflect. :)
Is that what you call answering by asking me a question
This is the first question which you have asked me.
What other answers should I have provided? :|
Well are you going to answer it i thought it was straightforward
#40
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
RossD89
archer1204
YouDontWantToKnow
archer1204
Why are you answering for Ross
My bad?
No offence but still waiting on Ross
It's okay, I have answered and I am now waiting on you after you tried to deflect. :)
Is that what you call answering by asking me a question
This is the first question which you have asked me.
What other answers should I have provided? :|
Well are you going to answer it i thought it was straightforward

It would be if you told me what you want answering...

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