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US and UK considering Arming REBELS in Libya..........

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5y, 8m agoPosted 5 years, 8 months ago
Based on history, this does not always end well......
US armed the Afghans in tha past, arms were later used in civil wars within same goes for arming Mobutu in Zaire...arms were later used in Congo....
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5y, 8m agoPosted 5 years, 8 months ago
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banned#1
read in the paper that Al Qaeda and Hezbollah were both fighting with the rebels.
#2
Agree with OP, this is a nightmare scenario esp as Al Qaeda are involved though to what extent we don't know.

It does bring back memories of the CIA arming the Muhadjeen and we know what they became (clue: not trainspotters)
#3
tallpete33
Agree with OP, this is a nightmare scenario esp as Al Qaeda are involved though to what extent we don't know.

It does bring back memories of the CIA arming the Muhadjeen and we know what they became (clue: not trainspotters)


I thought he bowled well today
banned 1 Like #4
We may not know who the rebels are, or particularly like them but we can't stand by and let Gaddafi slaughter his own people. Hopefully he'll go (by any means) and a new democracy will rise, and fingers crossed it isn't an overly religious one.
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1 Like #6
great arm the rebels, then they will make some basic propaganda lie that the rebels are turning on each other. Boom troops now invade Libya, take over and have another base in the middle east.

GG

Edited By: black gerbil1 on Mar 30, 2011 22:48
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black gerbil1
great arm the rebels, then they will make some basic propaganda lie that the rebels are turning on each other. Boom troops now invade Libya, take over and have another base in the middle east.

Very much doubt we'll see ground based troops in Libya.
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FilthAndFurry
We may not know who the rebels are, or particularly like them but we can't stand by and let Gaddafi slaughter his own people.


Why not, it's not our problem just like Mugabee, or some other non mineral rich country's dictator, isn't our problem.
banned#9
simplyjimbo
FilthAndFurry
We may not know who the rebels are, or particularly like them but we can't stand by and let Gaddafi slaughter his own people.


Why not, it's not our problem just like Mugabee, or some other non mineral rich country's dictator, isn't our problem.


Ignoring the specious moral equivalency, as decent people it is our responsibility.
1 Like #10
isnt the un resolution to protect civillians? sure when we arm them they are no longer civillians
then at least we can shoot them all without the distraction of friendly fire stats
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FilthAndFurry


Why not, it's not our problem just like Mugabee, or some other non mineral rich country's dictator, isn't our problem.


Ignoring the specious moral equivalency, as decent people it is our responsibility.[/quote]

Where are the decent people in parliament? I agree that as people living in a stable environment we shouldn't allow others like Gadaffiduck harm his own people but it rattles me when no country will do anything about any other dictator like Mugabee and co. Aren't they just as bad when depriving the people of their country many necessities of life.
#12
What they actually said was that they had not ruled out arming civilians. They have also not ruled out strapping C4 to carrier pigeons as a delivery system. Just putting pressure on.
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Paddy_o_furniture
black gerbil1
great arm the rebels, then they will make some basic propaganda lie that the rebels are turning on each other. Boom troops now invade Libya, take over and have another base in the middle east.

Very much doubt we'll see ground based troops in Libya.

Thats what I thought a week ago. After hearing obama / Cameron speak yesterday, I have completely reversed my opinion.

OIL = Serious Business
#14
There's no getting away from it, if we cannot have cheapish oil, we cannot have ANYTHING, millions if not billions starve, the western world as we know it crumbles into fractious little states like somalia. So, get real! If we need to secure supplies for our own needs then so be it. Lets see how long you naysayers can eat grass pulled from your garden, cos there wont be enough oil to fuel the supermarket delivery trucks, never mind the farmers tractors, or the grain tankers.
OIL IS KING!
banned#15
myjess
There's no getting away from it, if we cannot have cheapish oil, we cannot have ANYTHING, millions if not billions starve, the western world as we know it crumbles into fractious little states like somalia. So, get real! If we need to secure supplies for our own needs then so be it. Lets see how long you naysayers can eat grass pulled from your garden, cos there wont be enough oil to fuel the supermarket delivery trucks, never mind the farmers tractors, or the grain tankers.
OIL IS KING!


I don't think it's just Libya that's in play here - the spirit of 'revolution' that we saw in Egypt and Bahrain could sweep across the Middle East and hopefully make that whole area safer in the future.
#16
Killing Gaddafi should do the trick,99% of the people who support him only do so because they are scared of him,if he is dead then Libya will be a better and more peaceful place.
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FilthAndFurry
simplyjimbo
FilthAndFurry
We may not know who the rebels are, or particularly like them but we can't stand by and let Gaddafi slaughter his own people.

Why not, it's not our problem just like Mugabee, or some other non mineral rich country's dictator, isn't our problem.

Ignoring the specious moral equivalency, as decent people it is our responsibility.

Is that to be taken as a suggestion that we should get involved in all such conflicts across the globe then?

imo the real reason is to buy favour with an oil rich state, with the hope that if the rebels seize power the UK may be in a better position to strike deals.

I have always believed since the UK first got involved in this conflict there was a real chance of us being embroiled further. Looks like that is now happening.
But wait, a good war may just deflect attention from all the pain that is being suffered at home with all the cuts.
banned#18
WoolyM
FilthAndFurry
simplyjimbo
FilthAndFurry
We may not know who the rebels are, or particularly like them but we can't stand by and let Gaddafi slaughter his own people.


Why not, it's not our problem just like Mugabee, or some other non mineral rich country's dictator, isn't our problem.


Ignoring the specious moral equivalency, as decent people it is our responsibility.


Is that to be taken as a suggestion that we should get involved in all such conflicts across the globe then?

imo the real reason is to buy favour with an oil rich state, with the hope that if the rebels seize power the UK may be in a better position to strike deals.

I have always believed since the UK first got involved in this conflict there was a real chance of us being embroiled further. Looks like that is now happening.
But wait, a good war may just deflect attention from all the pain that is being suffered at home with all the cuts.


No we shouldn't get involved in all such conflicts but, as I pointed out in my next post, this is about the spirit of revolution in some Arab states right now. Toppling Gaddafi could have wide-ranging positive impacts for the global situation.

To link it back to your continued moaning about cuts is to make light of the military action we're taking.
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FilthAndFurry
WoolyM
FilthAndFurry
simplyjimbo
FilthAndFurry
We may not know who the rebels are, or particularly like them but we can't stand by and let Gaddafi slaughter his own people.

Why not, it's not our problem just like Mugabee, or some other non mineral rich country's dictator, isn't our problem.

Ignoring the specious moral equivalency, as decent people it is our responsibility.

Is that to be taken as a suggestion that we should get involved in all such conflicts across the globe then?

imo the real reason is to buy favour with an oil rich state, with the hope that if the rebels seize power the UK may be in a better position to strike deals.

I have always believed since the UK first got involved in this conflict there was a real chance of us being embroiled further. Looks like that is now happening.
But wait, a good war may just deflect attention from all the pain that is being suffered at home with all the cuts.

No we shouldn't get involved in all such conflicts but, as I pointed out in my next post, this is about the spirit of revolution in some Arab states right now. Toppling Gaddafi could have wide-ranging positive impacts for the global situation.

To link it back to your continued moaning about cuts is to make light of the military action we're taking.

Hey, don't knock it. The Falklands worked for Thatcher.
banned#20
WoolyM
FilthAndFurry
WoolyM
FilthAndFurry
simplyjimbo
FilthAndFurry
We may not know who the rebels are, or particularly like them but we can't stand by and let Gaddafi slaughter his own people.


Why not, it's not our problem just like Mugabee, or some other non mineral rich country's dictator, isn't our problem.


Ignoring the specious moral equivalency, as decent people it is our responsibility.


Is that to be taken as a suggestion that we should get involved in all such conflicts across the globe then?

imo the real reason is to buy favour with an oil rich state, with the hope that if the rebels seize power the UK may be in a better position to strike deals.

I have always believed since the UK first got involved in this conflict there was a real chance of us being embroiled further. Looks like that is now happening.
But wait, a good war may just deflect attention from all the pain that is being suffered at home with all the cuts.


No we shouldn't get involved in all such conflicts but, as I pointed out in my next post, this is about the spirit of revolution in some Arab states right now. Toppling Gaddafi could have wide-ranging positive impacts for the global situation.

To link it back to your continued moaning about cuts is to make light of the military action we're taking.


Hey, don't knock it. The Falklands worked for Thatcher.


Most people realise the cuts are needed. The Tories don't need to distract people.

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