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UK TV Licensing Resistance

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#1
UK TV License Resistance

How to resist the UK TV License. Playing the legal system off against itself to make the licence fail. Anyway, see that the law is illegal by comparison with higher European Union competition law, and that is part of fouling up the legal machinery. Get briefs.
#2
eh come again? :?
[mod]#3
Would be interesting to see if anyone has ever gone down this route.
1 Like #4
I pay £600 a year to Sky for nothing but imported shows and docs about idiots getting drunk in Ibiza.

I pay £150 a year to the BBC for great TV, Radio, News and Internet services. Without the license fee the BBC would go one of two ways, it would either become like PBS in America with non-stop telethons begging for money to make cheap programming or like it's biggest commercial rival ITV surviving on a diet of reality garbage and late night phone ins while targeting it's shows to the lowest common denominator.
#5
Another good site is http://www.bbctvlicence.com/
Read the Q and A on this site (see link on top-right)
#6
dcx_badass;3758638
I like BBC and wouldn't mind paying it if I could actually get freeview, or should get a discount instead.

Why not just get a FREEview box for a fraction of the annual TVL fee? :whistling:
#7
Ungreat;3758487
I pay £600 a year to Sky for nothing but imported shows and docs about idiots getting drunk in Ibiza.
I pay £150 a year to the BBC for great TV, Radio, News and Internet services. Without the license fee the BBC would go one of two ways, it would either become like PBS in America with non-stop telethons begging for money to make cheap programming or like it's biggest commercial rival ITV surviving on a diet of reality garbage and late night phone ins while targeting it's shows to the lowest common denominator.

The point is you chose to pay £600 to watch sky even though it may not be to your taste but we don't get a choice not to pay for BBC whether we like the programs or not.
banned#8
dcx_badass;3758638
I like BBC and wouldn't mind paying it if I could actually get freeview, or should get a discount instead.

Freeview isn't run by the BBC
#9
mas
The point is you chose to pay £600 to watch sky even though it may not be to your taste but we don't get a choice not to pay for BBC whether we like the programs or not.


But if i got hold of a hacked Sky card and decided to watch without paying this would be wrong.

Please name me one public service that has been made better by having it turned over to the private sector.
banned#10
Ungreat;3758907
But if i got hold of a hacked Sky card and decided to watch without paying this would be wrong.

Please name me one public service that has been made better by having it turned over to the private sector.

you are missing the point. the fact that we all have to pay for the bbc regardless whether we actually watch it is the main problem. I probably only watch about 1 or 2 hours of the bbc each week so would rather have my subscription back.
#11
I like the BBC, I don't mind paying for it because the main channels I watch are BBC1, 2, news and Parliament. However, if there are some people who never watch these or listen to any of the BBC Radio Stations, feel free to avoid paying however you wish.
#12
I will happily pay for a subscription if I like/ use the service and if I don’t like or use the service I will switch provider, as I have the power of CHOICE. But unfortunately it is not true with TV licence is it?
Ungreat I never mentioned about stealing if you use it, it is only fair to pay for it.
Pikachu12 you are saying you like BBC therefore we all have to pay so you can carry on watching it, well some us here like Beer so it is only fair for everyone in the country pay a yearly fee so we have Beer flow from our taps. Did I hear some one complaining because they prefer Bitter or Cider? well tough.......feel free to avoid paying however you wish.
banned#13
mas;3759905
I will happily pay for a subscription if I like/ use the service and if I don’t like or use the service I will switch provider, as I have the power of CHOICE. But unfortunately it is not true with TV licence is it?
Ungreat I never mentioned about stealing if you use it, it is only fair to pay for it.
Pikachu12 you are saying you like BBC therefore we all have to pay so you can carry on watching it, well some us here like Beer so it is only fair for everyone in the country pay a yearly fee so we have Beer flow from our taps. Did I hear some one complaining because they prefer Bitter or Cider? well tough.......feel free to avoid paying however you wish.

pikachu was actually agreeing with you somewhat :?
#14
csiman;3759983
pikachu was actually agreeing with you somewhat :?

was he?:thinking: Hehe, must have read it wrong. Anyway, I am still demanding a never ending supply of Beer from Taps in every house hold in Britain:whistling:
#15
mas
I will happily pay for a subscription if I like/ use the service and if I don’t like or use the service I will switch provider, as I have the power of CHOICE. But unfortunately it is not true with TV licence is it?
Ungreat I never mentioned about stealing if you use it, it is only fair to pay for it.
Pikachu12 you are saying you like BBC therefore we all have to pay so you can carry on watching it, well some us here like Beer so it is only fair for everyone in the country pay a yearly fee so we have Beer flow from our taps. Did I hear some one complaining because they prefer Bitter or Cider? well tough.......feel free to avoid paying however you wish.


i said that i'm not against it as it benefits me and probably over half the general population as well, but if you feel like being rebellious tonight, then come march, feel free not to pay.
banned#16
dcx_badass;3765079
I'm pretty sure I said I couldn't get it idiot.

I'm 100% sure you said you couldn't get it :thumbsup:
#17
dcx_badass;3765079
I like BBC and wouldn't mind paying it if I could actually get freeview, or should get a discount instead.


dcx_badass;3765079
I'm pretty sure I said I couldn't get it idiot.


LOL....you r d dumb moron who's ignorant of d fact that TVL has no connection with NON Terrestrial channels like Freeview!

ppl may not get all channels on Freeview, however with a decent ariel most can get at least some FV channels.
#18
Easy way to avoid paying the tv license don't watch tv. Its all **** that's on anyway. I only use my tv for dvd's and video games and the tv licensing people are fine with that.
#19
BBC are a co-founder of Freeview, so they are connected.

Connect a PC to your TV, use iPlayer, ITV and 4OD (do five have anything yet) and just shift your viewing back a day, so e.g. Top Gear on a Monday seems normal, and you don't even need to watch live TV
#20
its all in tha database as they say

well its about time they used that database to refund everybody who doesnt watch bbc tv

how about blocking the signal to people who dont pay.....some how
#21
No resistance will work - they pretty much have the government in their pockets. The Gov promised them another 30 years of fee payer funding so they could build their new £800m HQ.
#22
brayman;3780722
Easy way to avoid paying the tv license don't watch tv. Its all **** that's on anyway. I only use my tv for dvd's and video games and the tv licensing people are fine with that.

They are fine with that because you wrote to them or did they have a home inspection?
#23
dcx_badass
That's awesome, still doesn't change the fact I can't get any.


:lol:
banned#24
dcx_badass;3795018
That's awesome, still doesn't change the fact I can't get any.

:giggle:
#25
dcx_badass;3795018
That's awesome, still doesn't change the fact I can't get any.

pity!
#26
ukmax2k
pity!


That's what I feel for your response:p

Anyway, once switchover is complete, will people have to buy a TV license if they have no Freeview TV/Box? At that point a standard TV would be classed the same as a monitor would it not?
#27
Some people don't watch live TV. Anything i want i just wait until the next day and watch it on the online catchup service. The only thing i want especially off BBC is Top Gear, which usually comes on the iPlayer at around 10pm, an hour after it ends. The IT Crowd i can get on 4OD. When you have a PC connected to your TV, which i got a TV because large monitors are very expensive, you'll find you can watch anything you want, as long as you shunt your viewing forward a day. For me it's normal for The IT Crowd to be on on Saturdays, for example.

That way, you can get TV without paying for a license, as you are not watching or recording anything live :thumbsup:
#28
But doesn't the license also cover the BBC website as well?
#29
Shengis
But doesn't the license also cover the BBC website as well?


You don't need a license to use iPlayer, for the recorded videos, no. You do however need one if you choose to watch the new Live streams.
#30
peodude
Some people don't watch live TV. Anything i want i just wait until the next day and watch it on the online catchup service. The only thing i want especially off BBC is Top Gear, which usually comes on the iPlayer at around 10pm, an hour after it ends. The IT Crowd i can get on 4OD. When you have a PC connected to your TV, which i got a TV because large monitors are very expensive, you'll find you can watch anything you want, as long as you shunt your viewing forward a day. For me it's normal for The IT Crowd to be on on Saturdays, for example.

That way, you can get TV without paying for a license, as you are not watching or recording anything live :thumbsup:


You have a TV though and it has a tuner so it is irrelevant if you do not waych programs live. The fact you have a TV will cause you to pay the license fee as you can receive the signal. It will be very difficult for you to prove you or any one else do not use it for any live TV and would probably loose a court case because of this. If it was that easy then evryone else would use this has a reason not to pay.
#31
And wouldn't you know it, this morning I got a TV license demand through the post because I bought an LCD monitor with tv tuner in for the wife from Currys. Well they can go ****. If they'd bothered to check they would have seen there's already a license at this address just not in my name. Clown shoes.
#32
newbie1001
You have a TV though and it has a tuner so it is irrelevant if you do not waych programs live. The fact you have a TV will cause you to pay the license fee as you can receive the signal. It will be very difficult for you to prove you or any one else do not use it for any live TV and would probably loose a court case because of this. If it was that easy then evryone else would use this has a reason not to pay.



The onus is on TV licensing to prove you are breaking the law eg to catch you using a TV to receive.
banned#33
newbie1001;3799745
You have a TV though and it has a tuner so it is irrelevant if you do not waych programs live. The fact you have a TV will cause you to pay the license fee as you can receive the signal. It will be very difficult for you to prove you or any one else do not use it for any live TV and would probably loose a court case because of this. If it was that easy then evryone else would use this has a reason not to pay.

You are wrong. they would like you to believe having a tuner means you have to pay for a licence. You do NOT.

as ukmax2 stated above:-

Another good site is http://www.bbctvlicence.com/
Read the Q and A on this site (see link on top-right)
#34
Shengis;3798030
That's what I feel for your response:p

Anyway, once switchover is complete, will people have to buy a TV license if they have no Freeview TV/Box? At that point a standard TV would be classed the same as a monitor would it not?

And i pity ur Q...no doubt it's out of ignorance too.
You pay for TVL to watch LIVE terrestrial channels on tele.
It makes no difference whether ur TV is digital or analogue.
#35
ukmax2k
And i pity ur Q...no doubt it's out of ignorance too.
You pay for TVL to watch terrestrial channels on tele.
It makes no difference whether ur TV is digital or analogue.


Are you really that dense mate? At switchover a tv with a UHF tuner won't be able to receive squat so it's effectively NOT a receiver:roll:
#36
dontasciime
The onus is on TV licensing to prove you are breaking the law eg to catch you using a TV to receive.


Would you trust the British court system to go in your favour. Have you the funds to take it further if you loose. The magistates are heavily in favout of organisations like the BBC and are likely to take any evidence even falsified ones. Also my other half is stupid and would probably tell the licencing people we were using the TV to watch programs:roll:

Its alright certain people getting away with but can you afford to if they do deceide to pursure you through legal channels.They will soon get the law changed anyway to include delayed broadcasts. From what you are saying if i set my C+ box to a 30 min delay from now i no longer will have to pay a licence fee as the program is no longer live. Do you really think they would allow it to happen. I wish it was as easy as you say but i cannot afford to got to court as many paople and be convicted as it would mean instant dismissal from work.I certainly couldnot afford a lenghty court process either.
#37
You talk total codswallop.

You CAN have a TV, and as long as it is not tuned in, and is only used for DVD's videos and games console then that is perfectly fine and you DON'T need a TV license.

Likewise, when you buy a PC, some come with a TV card built in, and some laptops nowadays. Again, if you don't have any software able to utilise this then you DON'T need a license.

The internet is a greyish area at the moment, as companies are only just starting to stream live TV online. But suggesting i would need a TV license so that i could visit this website is nonsense. You can even go to those website and watch the catch up videos. As long as you don't watch the live feeds then you DON'T need a license.

To sum up, you need a license if you watch or record television as it's being broadcast.
#38
And i laugh at you for having faith in the British Magistates system. A system that probably doesn't understand streaming etc. They will see the fact that you have a TV with a tuner and will find you guilty because thats what they are like. You may have enough money to fight it but most do not thats why people get prosecuted.
#39
Well this seems simple enough.

You must be covered by a valid TV Licence if you [COLOR="Red"]watch[/COLOR] or [COLOR="Red"]record[/COLOR] television programmes as they're [COLOR="Red"]being shown[/COLOR] on TV. It makes no difference what equipment you use - whether it’s a laptop, PC, mobile phone, digital box, DVD recorder or a TV set - you still need a licence.

You do not need a TV Licence to view video clips on the internet, as long as what you are viewing is not being shown on TV at the same time as you are viewing it.

If you use a digital box with a hi-fi system, or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can't display TV programmes, and you don't install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don't need a TV Licence.
#40
What is a TV Licence needed for?

* To use any TV equipment such as a TV set, digital box, video or DVD recorder, computer or mobile phone to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on television.


USING to WATCH or RECORD live television. Oh, and the killer punch, i have had a TV License man in my house, and i have shown him my setup, and he went away perfectly satisfied that no offence was being committed! That is, a DVD player, a video player, and numerous consoles connected to a TV.

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