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UK will continue to retain DNA of innocent

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Your views? I have experienced this already when I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I had my fingerprints and DNA taken before I even knew what was going on. The police finally realised … Read More
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
Your views?

I have experienced this already when I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I had my fingerprints and DNA taken before I even knew what was going on. The police finally realised I was not involved and let me leave. Im now on their database,
not sure if I like that...
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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#2
but if you have nothing to hide should it matter, yes its unfortunate you were in the wrong place at the wrong time but if there is a data base it will keep streets safer
#3
i wouldn't mind offering my fingerprints or DNA of my own free will, but to have them taken and then kept after being proven innocent is wrong
banned#4
vadis
but if you have nothing to hide should it matter, yes its unfortunate you were in the wrong place at the wrong time but if there is a data base it will keep streets safer


Which is exactly my argument on placing tracking chips on people and putting CCTV into every home. Glad we're on the same page because I know I can't be trusted:thumbsup:
#5
vadis
but if you have nothing to hide should it matter, yes its unfortunate you were in the wrong place at the wrong time but if there is a data base it will keep streets safer


i agree
banned#6
great idea only those with something to hide will kick up a stink.
#7
FilthAndFurry
Which is exactly my argument on placing tracking chips on people and putting CCTV into every home. Glad we're on the same page because I know I can't be trusted:thumbsup:


Are you a wannabe Big Brother contestant ?
#8
dog_cop
great idea only those with something to hide will kick up a stink.


exactly

maybe they have gotten away with stuff cos they are not on a database...yet...once they are...oops! :whistling::w00t:
banned#9
i dont suppose it will be long before its taken at birth
banned#10
loupomm
exactly

maybe they have gotten away with stuff cos they are not on a database...yet...once they are...oops! :whistling::w00t:


there have been some fantastic cases cleared up in recent weeks, with cold case reviews and advances in dna techniques.. all in favour :thumbsup:
#11
Here we go again. Anybody not liking this gross invasion on their privacy is a fithy crim.
banned#12
dog_cop
great idea only those with something to hide will kick up a stink.


Which is of course guilt by implication which is what the Stasi were good at.

Just because it might make us safer, doesn't mean it has to be done. There are hundreds of measures we could implement that might make us safer, but what we have to give up would be too great.

There's merit to a DNA database, but I happen to think our civil liberties are more important.
banned#13
thesaint
Here we go again. Anybody not liking this gross invasion on their privacy is a fithy crim.


:w00t:.. one of your better posts
banned#14
dog_cop
:w00t:.. one of your better posts


Are you in favour of satellite tracking in cars that monitor speed? After all, if you're not breaking the law there's no problem.
#15
do the people that like the idea think that it will prevent crime in the first place?

I don't see it this way,
if a criminal wants to commit a crime they are going to.
#16
can DNA evidence be used to prosecute you for slacking off?

If so I am against it on this occasion,invasion of privacy blah blah blah
#17
sassie;5238983
i dont suppose it will be long before its taken at birth


already is chick, all in the name of research lol

doesn't bother me, had it done when holidaying in the states, think it should be optional though
banned#18
choc1969
already is chick, all in the name of research lol

doesn't bother me, had it done when holidaying in the states, think it should be optional though


is it, since when?
banned#19
boothy
can DNA evidence be used to prosecute you for slacking off?

If so I am against it on this occasion


did a quick check of your details via the data base.. loads of previous for Slacking :thumbsup:
#20
sassie;5239046
is it, since when?


since you had your first blood test as a baby....

now we have the data protection act you can request if any hospital you have visited as a patient has any dna samples, you must write to each one individually, then you can request it be destroyed :thumbsup:
#21
Also the government have a great track record when it comes to keeping data safe and secure.........
#22
dog_cop
did a quick check of your details via the data base.. loads of previous for Slacking :thumbsup:


bloody coppers,I am with F&F all the way....:whistling:
banned#23
choc1969
since you had your first blood test as a baby....

now we have the data protection act you can request if any hospital you have visited as a patient has any dna samples, you must write to each one individually, then you can request it be destroyed :thumbsup:


I thought if they where talking bloods for any other reason they had to inform you, like the hiv one, although i believe that was never a named sample
banned#24
boothy
bloody coppers,I am with F&F all the way....:whistling:


ah another f&f fanclub member.. that's now..... 1member :w00t:
#25
dog_cop
ah another f&f fanclub member.. that's now..... 1member :w00t:


but when he wins the HUKD mingers comp it will at least double
#26
sassie;5239080
I thought if they where talking bloods for any other reason they had to inform you, like the hiv one, although i believe that was never a named sample


thats how they get away with it lol, I did a random check at the hospital where I was born and also worked for 13 years, they had numerous named samples for me on file on those slides.......due to a medical condition they were checking for at birth

was angry at first but now don't give a hoot, if the laws that be want our dna they will get it one way or another

doesn't make it right......but hey, thats human nature :roll:
#27
For those who have missed the news Mark Thomas tells of how he got his DNA removed from the database. He suggests how others may do similar
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/19/dna-database-comment
banned#28
boothy
but when he wins the HUKD mingers comp it will at least double


has he won it yet :thumbsup:
#29
dog_cop
has he won it yet :thumbsup:


dont know.we both entered him,think another week to go
banned#30
choc1969
thats how they get away with it lol, I did a random check at the hospital where I was born and also worked for 13 years, they had numerous named samples for me on file on those slides.......due to a medical condition they were checking for at birth

was angry at first but now don't give a hoot, if the laws that be want our dna they will get it one way or another

doesn't make it right......but hey, thats human nature :roll:


i didnt think dna was just a blood sample, yes i know call me simple
#31
sassie;5239139
i didnt think dna was just a blood sample, yes i know call me simple


dna can even be a skin cell babe, bit of dandruff on your shoulder, used tissue, tampon, dirty undies.......
#32
Last year the European Court of Human Rights told the UK government it couldn’t keep the DNA of innocent people on its police database. Today the UK government announced how it would deal with the ruling, in a response that basically amounts to two fingers to the court.
I don't think it would be deemed acceptable if one of the poorer EU countries disregarded the European Court of Human Rights, would they not be kicked out the union?
banned#33
choc1969
dna can even be a skin cell babe, bit of dandruff on your shoulder, used tissue, tampon, dirty undies.......


feel a bit of a dimwit now - lol

I sorta agree with dna of everyone being on record then, im sure thousands of horrific cases go unsolved when they have dna but nothing to match it to, but i suppose ts the same as everything if errors can be made then it shouldnt happen, or should it, arrgghh
#34
choc1969
since you had your first blood test as a baby....

now we have the data protection act you can request if any hospital you have visited as a patient has any dna samples, you must write to each one individually, then you can request it be destroyed :thumbsup:


Nice to know. Had mine taken for medical tests. Is there just one place to write to or what?
#35
phatboy123
do the people that like the idea think that it will prevent crime in the first place?

I don't see it this way,
if a criminal wants to commit a crime they are going to.


dunno mate, if a rapist knows that without doubt he is gonna be named then caught within hours of the crime .....id say maybe some would think twice, thats enough for me :thumbsup:
banned#36
sassie
feel a bit of a dimwit now - lol

I sorta agree with dna of everyone being on record then, im sure thousands of horrific cases go unsolved when they have dna but nothing to match it to, but i suppose ts the same as everything if errors can be made then it shouldnt happen, or should it, arrgghh


What about your movements being tracked - that would also stop crime. CCTV is a good start but what about vehicle trackers?

If you've got nothing to hide then where's the problem?
#37
WoolyM;5239189
Nice to know. Had mine taken for medical tests. Is there just one place to write to or what?


write to the chief exec of the hospital......send by signed for post, that way they can't deny and prolong the destruction as they attempt to do :thumbsup:
#38
FilthAndFurry
What about your movements being tracked - that would also stop crime. CCTV is a good start but what about vehicle trackers?

If you've got nothing to hide then where's the problem?


thread is about dna, you seem to keep nipping at people with this... go start a thread on it maybe?
banned#39
kungfu
thread is about dna, you seem to keep nipping at people with this... go start a thread on it maybe?


Because they're related. Fairly obviously too.
banned#40
FilthAndFurry
What about your movements being tracked - that would also stop crime. CCTV is a good start but what about vehicle trackers?

If you've got nothing to hide then where's the problem?


I dont have a problem with any of it, as long as its 100% error proof, why would i, i dont think im entitled to eff all in this life, except to die

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