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Uni finished, no job atm, can i get JSA(Dole)

Robcampo Avatar
7y, 7m agoPosted 7 years, 7 months ago
As the title really, having trouble finding this out for sure....

my uni card says i am no longer a student as of the time when the exam period finished.
jobs are hard to come by atm as im sure many of you know, they all want experience etc, and a degree alone isnt enough to get a job when there are so many people out of work used to doin that partic job etc....
i cant even get a graduate job as im not a graduate yet.... yea im applyin but many dont take on just yet...

however from the internet it appears i cant get any help eg job seekers/dole/whatever fancy name it has until X amount of weeks after i graduate officially (15 july)

so it appears im in limbo. no longer a student as far as the benefits of being one go, but not a graduate so i cant get them benefits yet....

so does any one know when i can claim, what goes on etc etc. things are hard and another month is surely impossible. im still actively lookin for a job and have been for a while, and i dont intend to stay on beenfits.... why would i do 3 years at uni and 2 years at college...

anyone help?

Thankss

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7y, 7m agoPosted 7 years, 7 months ago
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1 Like #1
im in the same position...would guess we wait til the end of the academic year as we are still classed as students?
#2
yea that seems to be what iv found out.... :-(

suck really as we arnt graduates so that out of the window. but my uni card is no longer valid, so i cant even get my pitiful discount....
#3
Robcampo
yea that seems to be what iv found out.... :-(

suck really as we arnt graduates so that out of the window. but my uni card is no longer valid, so i cant even get my pitiful discount....


what suprises me is my student card expires before my retake period (if I have any retakes) which I think it out of order to begin with....but yes, a very confusing time...
#4
lil_tiger
what suprises me is my student card expires before my retake period (if I have any retakes) which I think it out of order to begin with....but yes, a very confusing time...


yea exactly.... hopefully we wont have to do retakes... but it surprised me too, at the gym the other day they asked to see my uni card, then bang its out of date. im like im still a student til i graduate atleast,
oh i can have it at the same concessionary rate if prove im unemployed.. but im neither at the mo...

oh what oh what are we classed as :S lol
#5
get a job,

no point being a bum and making multiple trips plus queing up at the job centre all for a measly £80 a fortnite
1 Like #6
Harry_Shotter
get a job,

no point being a bum and making multiple trips plus queing up at the job centre all for a measly £80 a fortnite


if getting a job is so easy, then this thread wouldn't exist, nor the ever growing unemployment levels. I feel for you guys looking for a job btw.
#7
Harry_Shotter
get a job,

no point being a bum and making multiple trips plus queing up at the job centre all for a measly £80 a fortnite


you speaking from experience? We are not 'bums' if there was work out there accessible to us then we would be applying for them, the truth is that there isnt...now kindly go crawl back under the rock you so blatantly must be living under...
1 Like #8
Hey guys im in the exact same position as you, finished uni but there is absolutley ****** all about at the minute, i get kicked out of uni halls end of july so i gotta do something lol... I also agree its stupid how uni suddenly ends and were stuck in limbo for 2 and a half months!!!
#9
djstrobe4real
Hey guys im in the exact same position as you, finished uni but there is absolutley ****** all about at the minute, i get kicked out of uni halls end of july so i gotta do something lol... I also agree its stupid how uni suddenly ends and were stuck in limbo for 2 and a half months!!!


I get kicked out of mine 30th of this month....moving back in with the parents as there is no other option....at the moment it is seeming there was no point to spending the £25k on fees and wasting 5 years to be in no better position that all the doleys that just sit on their backsides...
#10
lil_tiger;5543600
I get kicked out of mine 30th of this month....moving back in with the parents as there is no other option....at the moment it is seeming there was no point to spending the £25k on fees and wasting 5 years to be in no better position that all the doleys that just sit on their backsides...


Mate thats exactly how I feel :x. Was it really worth all the stress and of course financial issues, eating all that beans on toast now seems it was all for nothing. I only hope things pick up soon :?
#11
djstrobe4real
Mate thats exactly how I feel :x. Was it really worth all the stress and of course financial issues, eating all that beans on toast now seems it was all for nothing. I only hope things pick up soon :?


Lol...i personally never got the hang of the student style food...maybe thats why my overdraft looks so poorly!! Been brought up on proper home cooked meals so that didnt change at any point during the 3 years....ahh well....students/graduates arent going to get any help from the government...so good luck and hope we all get through it....lol
#12
lil_tiger;5543633
Lol...i personally never got the hang of the student style food...maybe thats why my overdraft looks so poorly!! Been brought up on proper home cooked meals so that didnt change at any point during the 3 years....ahh well....students/graduates arent going to get any help from the government...so good luck and hope we all get through it....lol


Well as much as it seems the government isnt helping, i for one am grateful for all the help the government has given us students over the past few years. Paid all my fees for me and helped with my accomodation so im not going to complain, its just a shame there isnt any help inbetween leaving and landing that first job :thumbsup:
#13
It's a pathetic situation really, the government treats you like crap. My sister has just finished her second year, and this time last year ended up with about 10 days to find a job and a place to live cos the university charged a crazy fortune for student halls over the summer,and since both our parents are barstewards she didn't have the luxury of going home, nor anyone to beg off for money for food etc. and had been short all year because she could only get the smallest loan and no grant due to her good for nothing wouldn't drop a dime to help her father earning 50k a year.
#14
While I was in limbo between degree years... I got a job at the airport... just luggage handling... picking them from crates to belt. Manual labour... but it did the trick... didnt want to do it... but had to.
No brainer job.. but I needed the cash and wanted to get more than the dole.

Good luck ... it can be tough... people dont hire mid grad students as they know they are gonna leave 2-3 months down the line.

If you have to.. just BS and say you are taking a year out.. and looking for a job.

when you resign 2-3 months down the line to go back to uni.. .. dont have any hard feelings.

lifes a b**** .. gotta find a way to deal with it

good luck peeps!
#15
5nowman;5543765
While I was in limbo between degree years... I got a job at the airport... just luggage handling... picking them from crates to belt. Manual labour... but it did the trick... didnt want to do it... but had to.
No brainer job.. but I needed the cash and wanted to get more than the dole.

Good luck ... it can be tough... people dont hire mid grad students as they know they are gonna leave 2-3 months down the line.

If you have to.. just BS and say you are taking a year out.. and looking for a job.

when you resign 2-3 months down the line to go back to uni.. .. dont have any hard feelings.

lifes a b**** .. gotta find a way to deal with it

good luck peeps!



Cheers m8, i dont care what job i got, ive happily said ill clean toilets if i have to, im not scared of work ive worked ever since i was 12, the only time i have not been in work is now and thats because i cant find anything, no experience - no thanks seems to be the attitude at the moment...
#16
djstrobe4real
Well as much as it seems the government isnt helping, i for one am grateful for all the help the government has given us students over the past few years. Paid all my fees for me and helped with my accomodation so im not going to complain, its just a shame there isnt any help inbetween leaving and landing that first job :thumbsup:


the government hasnt subsidised any of my costs....the idea that the funding is based on your parents earnings is rediculous....they should have a basic finding scheme for everyone, not certain funding for certain people, when various people I know have fraudulently applied and recieved the grants, Im not that type of person and would rather they made it fair to begin with.
#17
Well if they government claim that your parents are responsible for some of the cost (assuming they have the means) then I think it should be legal to sue them for not contributing.
#18
lil_tiger;5543870
the government hasnt subsidised any of my costs....the idea that the funding is based on your parents earnings is rediculous....they should have a basic finding scheme for everyone, not certain funding for certain people, when various people I know have fraudulently applied and recieved the grants, Im not that type of person and would rather they made it fair to begin with.


Ah my appologies I assumed you recieved the funding i did lol. In your case then yes i agree with the fair finance scheme, everyone should have the same opportunities to a university education regardless of their parents earnings
#19
bruffterman
Well if they government claim that your parents are responsible for some of the cost (assuming they have the means) then I think it should be legal to sue them for not contributing.

A bit extreme but yeah, I get the idea that the government shouldnt just presume that parents are going to give cash to their kids, we are over 18, not relient on them anymore, therefore we should have no financial ties to them, or their earnings.

djstrobe4real
Ah my appologies I assumed you recieved the funding i did lol. In your case then yes i agree with the fair finance scheme, everyone should have the same opportunities to a university education regardless of their parents earnings


nah, I dont get anything, its rediculous really, especially when I see my friends who get the funding blowing the money on going out etc.
1 Like #20
I was in the same position this time last year. Basically you can't get JSA till your course officially ends as any loans/bursaries are supposed to last you till that date or if you don't have any of them you should be able to support yourself for a few more weeks. But if you sign on late they'll backdate your claim till the day after your course officially finished.

Don't listen to the idiots calling you a lazy bum, it's depressing but necessary to get some money from the government while you look for work. Keep your chin up and eventually you'll find a job, even if it's just to tide you over till you get a chance at your career choice :)
#21
lil_tiger;5543870
the government hasnt subsidised any of my costs....the idea that the funding is based on your parents earnings is rediculous....they should have a basic finding scheme for everyone, not certain funding for certain people, when various people I know have fraudulently applied and recieved the grants, Im not that type of person and would rather they made it fair to begin with.

I am finding the this funding situation more frustrating the more I read. My sister was telling me this morning how her 18 year old daughter has been saving for the last 2 years to fund her college years, she will not get any financial help from the government as my sister and her new husband ( not my neice's father) earn more than £30,000 between them. She then went on to describe how a girl in the village who has just taken her GCSE's is being funded for her education. She got pregnant in her final year of GCSE's so she has had private home tuition provided by the education authority to get her through her exams. She now has the baby and will take her A level's with the government funding the childcare for the baby and then she will get full financial support for her degree even though her father is a Doctor and obviously earning over the £30,000. Where is the fairness in that? my neice who is very studious and has not been silly enough to get pregnant gets nothing.
#22
lil_tiger
the government hasnt subsidised any of my costs....the idea that the funding is based on your parents earnings is rediculous....they should have a basic finding scheme for everyone, not certain funding for certain people, when various people I know have fraudulently applied and recieved the grants, Im not that type of person and would rather they made it fair to begin with.


The true cost of uni fees and the cost to the uni of delivering a degree are those what they charge the students from abroad about £10-15k per year depending on the courses and uni.
Most uni fees for UK students are capped around £3-4k per year at the moment so in effect most UK students are subsidised around 60-70% the cost of a degree by the taxpayer before any grants/bursaries given to those on a low income to ensure that they dont have to pay all/part of the fees.
So even if someone parents earn over a 100-150k per year then their kids will in effect only directly pay 30-40% towards the cost of a uni degree in the current system.

I think most universities will increase the fees when the cap is lifted circa 2010, wouldnt be surprised to see the fees per year increased to £6k pre year plus and prob around £10k for medicine, dentistry, law courses at the top uni's. Some people may say that this would lead to a two tier system but it may also make people want to go to uni and pick the right course for the right reasons rather than go to uni just because its the thing to do.
#23
treble99
The true cost of uni fees and the cost to the uni of delivering a degree are those what they charge the students from abroad about £10-15k per year depending on the courses and uni.
Most uni fees for UK students are capped around £3-4k per year at the moment so in effect most UK students are subsidised around 60-70% the cost of a degree by the taxpayer before any grants/bursaries given to those on a low income to ensure that they dont have to pay all/part of the fees.
So even if someone parents earn over a 100-150k per year then their kids will in effect only directly pay 30-40% towards the cost of a uni degree in the current system.

I think most universities will increase the fees when the cap is lifted circa 2010, wouldnt be surprised to see the fees per year increased to £6k pre year plus and prob around £10k for medicine, dentistry, law courses at the top uni's. Some people may say that this would lead to a two tier system but it may also make people want to go to uni and pick the right course for the right reasons rather than go to uni just because its the thing to do.


Yeah I understand the point your making, but the government are making it easier for certain people fo afford uni.I myself, have just finished a law course, I wouldnt have been able to complete it without the financial help of my parents (as well as having my own job). The point remains that their income is theirs, they shouldnt have to be spent on my education.
As for the tuition fees increasing, mine have been increasing for the past 3 years so no change there then, plus the LPC course that im meant to do costs 10k that I cant afford (was 5k when I started 3years ago)....fees have been increasing already...
#24
lil_tiger
Yeah I understand the point your making, but the government are making it easier for certain people fo afford uni.I myself, have just finished a law course, I wouldnt have been able to complete it without the financial help of my parents (as well as having my own job). The point remains that their income is theirs, they shouldnt have to be spent on my education.
As for the tuition fees increasing, mine have been increasing for the past 3 years so no change there then, plus the LPC course that im meant to do costs 10k that I cant afford (was 5k when I started 3years ago)....fees have been increasing already...


Totally agree, you are classed as an adult when you turn 18 by law so your parents are not responsible for you financially. On the flip side though if someone is classed as an adult at 18 they should be responsible to pay for their own education and career development. There should be no burden on those of of the same age who are working after leaving school and also if 19+ plus would probably have to pay their own fees without any grants to learn a trade such as plumbing, joinery etc.
I agree that we need graduates in this country to ensure we can compete globally with the best and innovative minds but China and India are are pumping out about 7 million graduates a year and we cant compete with that. The 50% target of young people in the UK going to university is unfeasible as some are doing degrees which are uneccessary and will never look to get a job in that field of work.
#25
cheers all for the replies... is depressing really isnt it....
problem is havin just finished uni i cant lie n say i havnt as they want to know what iv done for the last several years.... so im ******ed either way...
id gladly do any job to get some money.. even gettin turned away from call centres as there are that many ppl with sales experience, lil ol me has no chance......

seems such a waste, all them years, all that money.... i can see why so many people are in trouble if they have mortgages n families to support...

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