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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
I have a decision to make and have NO idea what to do! So i'm nominating the whole of HOTUKDEALS to decide for me. :D

I can either go to Newcastle University and do a BSC in Economics (with an option of a year in industry- which I think I will do)


or

I can go to Nottingham University and do a BA In Industrial Economics (with no option of a placement- however I could do an internship in the summer months :| )


Newcastle is ranked around 22nd for Economics in the UK whereas Nottingham is ranked 8th-10th in the UK for economics.

I think I prefer Newcastle as a city- JUST.

The costs of accommodation etc are fairly similar.


So.... HUKD, make a decision for me!


Thanks =D
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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
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#1
No competition here - go to Nottingham - better uni, city and accommodation. Warmer too.
Just make sure you do the internships.
#2
They are both banging cities to be in.

To be honest it really depends how much you want that year in industry.
It also seems almost that you know you want to go to Nwcastle, but think you should really be going to Notts because its ranked higher :P

I think i would go Notts personally.

Edited By: Jetpac on Mar 17, 2011 18:34
#3
3 of mine have been through Uni.

I don't know anything about Nottingham. Is Nottingham considered a redbrick? Should not matter but in reality, it does.

Newcastle is a brilliant city. My son got in there by the skin of his teeth but came out with a 1st

Might help if you state where home is. Ncastle not a good option if you live in Penzance 8)
#4
I live in Portsmouth, doesn't bother me how far away from home I am. I just think going to Notts would look better on my CV (obviously depending on me coming out with a 2:1 or better) but I'm drawn to Newcastle a little more, mainly because of the city, the people and the placement year. Argggh!
banned#5
Nottingham.

Just apply to internships early.
#6
Is a BSC Economics 'more thought of' than a BA Economics....?
#7
Jetpac
They are both banging cities to be in.

To be honest it really depends how much you want that year in industry.
It also seems almost that you know you want to go to Nwcastle, but think you should really be going to Notts because its ranked higher :P

I think i would go Notts personally.


Beware the "year in industry"... Daughter was doing Biology in Mchester. The year in industry was only offered to the top 10 of the year......all the rest more or less had to find their own way, or had already got fixed up through family / friends.

Guess what, she was offered a placement in London, less than min wage (called expenses). No way could we afford digs and transport for London for a year. Hence she not do a year in industry.

Just don't believe that the Uni will arrange your year in industry, that might not be the case so may not be a good idea to base decision on that alone. You also have to arrange digs travel yourself. Not easy if it is not in your Uni city.

The way Uni courses are these days, most people can take a year out and go work for a year if they want to, worth asking if it's what you want
banned 1 Like #8
Get a job.
#9
Beware the "year in industry"... Daughter was doing Biology in Mchester. The year in industry was only offered to the top 10 of the year......all the rest more or less had to find their own way, or had already got fixed up through family / friends.

Guess what, she was offered a placement in London, less than min wage (called expenses). No way could we afford digs and transport for London for a year. Hence she not do a year in industry.

Just don't believe that the Uni will arrange your year in industry, that might not be the case so may not be a good idea to base decision on that alone. You also have to arrange digs travel yourself. Not easy if it is not in your Uni city.

The way Uni courses are these days, most people can take a year out and go work for a year if they want to, worth asking if it's what you want



I spoke to the managers of the degree at Newcastle yesterday, and every student on the course will be able to do the placement, and every student will get support in finding a placement, but it is essentially up to the student to take control .

Thanks for the reply!
#10
pompeycurry
I live in Portsmouth, doesn't bother me how far away from home I am. I just think going to Notts would look better on my CV (obviously depending on me coming out with a 2:1 or better) but I'm drawn to Newcastle a little more, mainly because of the city, the people and the placement year. Argggh!

If you live Portsmouth go to Nottingham because although it doesn't seem much nearer it will make a difference if you're going up and down several times a year.
#11
pompeycurry
Beware the "year in industry"... Daughter was doing Biology in Mchester. The year in industry was only offered to the top 10 of the year......all the rest more or less had to find their own way, or had already got fixed up through family / friends.

Guess what, she was offered a placement in London, less than min wage (called expenses). No way could we afford digs and transport for London for a year. Hence she not do a year in industry.

Just don't believe that the Uni will arrange your year in industry, that might not be the case so may not be a good idea to base decision on that alone. You also have to arrange digs travel yourself. Not easy if it is not in your Uni city.

The way Uni courses are these days, most people can take a year out and go work for a year if they want to, worth asking if it's what you want


I spoke to the managers of the degree at Newcastle yesterday, and every student on the course will be able to do the placement, and every student will get support in finding a placement, but it is essentially up to the student to take control .

Thanks for the reply!


Translated, we let students do a year in industry and will support them to do so.

Up to you to get the placement, then sort out all the practicalities, move out of current digs, find new ones etc. Bit like life in general really, you gotta work at if you want it, which I am sure you will do.

Just wish Uni's would stop giving the impression they actively do anything. They don't.
#12
is the option in industry defo confirmed for all who enrol on the course

edit: I just the other replies which highlight any concerns about year in industry. Go for nottingham as its a great place and its russell group

Edited By: strike on Mar 17, 2011 19:04
#13
strike
is the option in industry defo confirmed for all who enrol on the course


Definitely not.
#14
Go to Nottingham it is a better rated uni and will thus increase employment chances when you enter the real world
#15
Well I go to Nottingham Trent right bang in the middle of Nottingham and its a great place full of students and great night outs, Nottingham campus is really very nice its on the outskirts of the city that would be the only downside. In Terms of acadmic point Nottingham is a top uni and to have a degree from such a uni is going to give you that upper hand when securing a job. Highly reccomend Nottingham best of luck!
banned#16
iglimpse
Jetpac
They are both banging cities to be in.

To be honest it really depends how much you want that year in industry.
It also seems almost that you know you want to go to Nwcastle, but think you should really be going to Notts because its ranked higher :P

I think i would go Notts personally.



Beware the "year in industry"... Daughter was doing Biology in Mchester. The year in industry was only offered to the top 10 of the year......all the rest more or less had to find their own way, or had already got fixed up through family / friends.

Guess what, she was offered a placement in London, less than min wage (called expenses). No way could we afford digs and transport for London for a year. Hence she not do a year in industry.

Just don't believe that the Uni will arrange your year in industry, that might not be the case so may not be a good idea to base decision on that alone. You also have to arrange digs travel yourself. Not easy if it is not in your Uni city.

The way Uni courses are these days, most people can take a year out and go work for a year if they want to, worth asking if it's what you want



My university didn't arrange my placement. I'm not sure who goes into such a course with that in mind? Why did she have that expectation?

OP - doing an internship was one of the best decisions I made. I didn't have to apply for a job after i graduated and my final year at uni was an absolute breeze after I had done a years work (you don't realise how efficient you become).

the fact that it is a BA course is a bit of a bummer but i'd ask the internship co-ordinator which companies the students got placements at. if they are companies you'd like to work for i'd go for it.
#17
sarbjeet_
Well I go to Nottingham Trent right bang in the middle of Nottingham and its a great place full of students and great night outs, Nottingham campus is really very nice its on the outskirts of the city that would be the only downside. In Terms of acadmic point Nottingham is a top uni and to have a degree from such a uni is going to give you that upper hand when securing a job. Highly reccomemd Nottingham best of luck!


Not guaranteed though. I know people who have been to top universities but still ended up working in a local shop.
Op, just go to the one that looks most enjoyable.
#18
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1 Like #19
davidbeckham187
what deek72....i leave you this..

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Thanks becks. I like that song. Old Brandy is one scrawpy mofo. ;)
#20
deek72
sarbjeet_
Well I go to Nottingham Trent right bang in the middle of Nottingham and its a great place full of students and great night outs, Nottingham campus is really very nice its on the outskirts of the city that would be the only downside. In Terms of acadmic point Nottingham is a top uni and to have a degree from such a uni is going to give you that upper hand when securing a job. Highly reccomemd Nottingham best of luck!

Not guaranteed though. I know people who have been to top universities but still ended up working in a local shop.
Op, just go to the one that looks most enjoyable.


I know people who went to good Uni's now in Tescos, that is what they wanted and they are rising very fast, if that is what you want then go for it.

Yawn but would have thought most people know that a degree is no guarantee to good jobs. You just got to try as hard as you can,whatever you got.

As I asked earlier, is NHam a redbrick or not...?
#21
sorry let me rephrase it will give you a better chance at the end of the day its how you are as person and if you work hard and are determined to be successful you cant go wrong!
#22
As I asked earlier, is NHam a redbrick or not...?


I believe so, or in the "russel group" or whatever it's called.


the fact that it is a BA course is a bit of a bummer


Yea its a BA at Nottingham and Bsc at Newcastle, so which one is better I am unsure of...
#23
sarbjeet_
Nottingham campus is really very nice its on the outskirts of the city that would be the only downside.


Im at Nottingham Uni in my final year at the moment. You said a downside is being out of the city centre, personally i think its an upside. The campus is AMAZING, so much greenery and pretty buildings but that should be at the back of your mind when thinking about your decision.

I know Nottingham have got an excellent business school, they have their own campus for it (Jubilee Campus) just a mile or so down the road.Not too sure if your lectures will be based there though. City is student friendly, over 40,000 combined from both Trent and Uni.

I couldn't reccommend Nottingham more highly although i am obviously biased after only visiting Newcastle Uni and not going there.

Hope that helps somehow!
#24
I couldn't reccommend Nottingham more highly although i am obviously biased after only visiting Newcastle Uni and not going there.



What did you think when you went to Newcastle compared to Nottingham?
#25
Newcastle University
banned#26
dcx_badass
Newcastle is an awesome city for nights out, come here.

Go to Nottingham if you want to be murdered.


dcx is absolutely right. Newcastle is awesome for nights out.

But you wouldn't want to live there.
#27
But you wouldn't want to live there.


To be fair, the halls that I would want to stay in (the liveliest ones) were REALLY basic, and cost £75pw and were self catered.

Does anyone know what the Halls at Nottingham are like?
banned#28
I work for "another" University
Beware of rankings, they are often based on surveys filled out by alumni and in no way relate to anything to do with quality of teaching etc...
1 Like #29
sennasnit
I work for "another" University
Beware of rankings, they are often based on surveys filled out by alumni and in no way relate to anything to do with quality of teaching etc...


good answer!
1 Like #30
davidbeckham187
sennasnit
I work for "another" University
Beware of rankings, they are often based on surveys filled out by alumni and in no way relate to anything to do with quality of teaching etc...


good answer!


true as well
#31
pompeycurry
I couldn't reccommend Nottingham more highly although i am obviously biased after only visiting Newcastle Uni and not going there.



What did you think when you went to Newcastle compared to Nottingham?



I was first struck by the campus of Nottingham and the togetherness of it when compared to Newcastle. I didnt really gain much from visiting both uni's apart from the fact that i enjoyed being on just one dedicated site rather than in the city in Newcastle. I dont think you can really understand what i mean without visiting Nottingham Uni.

In terms of your departments and course, I'd definitely reccommend try going on an open day and talk to the staff and students for both Unis. A day visiting the uni is nothing compared to the three years you'll be spending there!
#32
Have you seen whether Nottinghan has an Erasmus scheme (or whetever they call it now).
When I was at uni a couple of years ago you could choose to go abroad to Europe for a year (normally inbetween the course's 2nd and 3rd year so you basically add a year to your course). It was funded by the EU and you could choose to either study for a year in a foreign university (you get a grant and pay no tuition fees) or spend a year in industry (you get part paid by Erasmus and part paid by your employer).
It was something you had to choose to do, either by adding 'with European Study' onto your course, so you study a foreign language and that goes towards your degree mark, or 'without European study' so no foreign language skills necessary.
I went to uni knowing I wanted to do this, but other people were encouraged to do it, it wasn't exclusive or anything.
I'm almost certain Nottingham will have something like this in place, so you won't necessarily miss out on a year in industry, if you are willing to add a year onto your course and go abroad you can probably have your year in industry there and there won't be much financial implication for doing so.
banned#33
Red Brick
* The University of Birmingham - royal charter granted in 1900.
* The University of Liverpool - royal charter granted in 1903.
* The University of Leeds - royal charter granted in 1904.
* The University of Sheffield - royal charter granted in 1905.
* The University of Bristol - royal charter granted in 1909.
* The University of Manchester - formed in 2004 with the merger of The Victoria University of Manchester (1880) and UMIST (1956).

Russell Group
* University of Birmingham
* University of Bristol
* University of Cambridge
* Cardiff University
* University of Edinburgh
* University of Glasgow
* Imperial College London
* King's College London
* University of Leeds
* University of Liverpool
* London School of Economics & Political Science
* University of Manchester
* Newcastle University
* University of Nottingham
* University of Oxford
* Queen's University Belfast
* University of Sheffield
* University of Southampton
* University College London
* University of Warwick


Edited By: sennasnit on Mar 21, 2011 12:40
#34
Out of the two, I would choose Nottingham.

BUT.. it's not all about what's on paper when you walk into a job interview, they want to know more about YOU than your degree itself.

I went Birmingham myself, loved it.
banned#35
dcx_badass
sennasnit
Red Brick (Russell Group)
* The University of Birmingham - royal charter granted in 1900.
* The University of Liverpool - royal charter granted in 1903.
* The University of Leeds - royal charter granted in 1904.
* The University of Sheffield - royal charter granted in 1905.
* The University of Bristol - royal charter granted in 1909.
* The University of Manchester - formed in 2004 with the merger of The Victoria University of Manchester (1880) and UMIST (1956).

Neither Nottingham or Newcastle are RB.


Both are:

http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/

I know, figured it out after.
I've added the Russell Group list.
#36
I went and visited Nottingham yesterday, and although the first impression was of a fancy new campus, I didn't like the way the head lecturer presented to us, however after a student talk and some questions, I found out that although Nottingham don't offer a placement year on my course, I can choose to suspend my studies if I find an internship. I can also study at Nottingham's Malaysia campus in the second year for no additional cost, in fact I would receive a grant of £250.

But I didn't get to look at any accommodation, which was a bummer!
#37
pompeycurry
I went and visited Nottingham yesterday, and although the first impression was of a fancy new campus, I didn't like the way the head lecturer presented to us, however after a student talk and some questions, I found out that although Nottingham don't offer a placement year on my course, I can choose to suspend my studies if I find an internship. I can also study at Nottingham's Malaysia campus in the second year for no additional cost, in fact I would receive a grant of £250.

But I didn't get to look at any accommodation, which was a bummer!

If I was you I would goto Nottingham, take the option of studying in Malaysia for your 2nd year, then take a year out between your 2nd & 3rd year to try and get a placement.

A friend of mine studied at Plymouth and did one of his years in France, and it really sticks out on his CV, this combined with a possible placement and a highly ranked Uni should mean you'll be in a good posistion when you look for jobs.

Of course all of the above gets blown out the water if your heart is saying Newcastle!
#38
A friend of mine studied at Plymouth and did one of his years in France, and it really sticks out on his CV, this combined with a possible placement and a highly ranked Uni should mean you'll be in a good posistion when you look for jobs.


This is what I am thinking, as well as the fact that there will be so much opportunity to travel when I'm in Malaysia as well!
#39
Not sure what you picked mate, but I would definitely go with Nottingham, it's 'proper' economics and it's also a BSc versus Nottingham's BA. If you're comfortable with the more technical nature, BSc (Bachelor of Science) is usually more valuable to employers than BA (Bachelor of Arts) [Note I know this is completely subjective and based on subject, but in the case of economics is probably true]
#40
Not sure what you picked mate, but I would definitely go with Nottingham, it's 'proper' economics and it's also a BSc versus Nottingham's BA. If you're comfortable with the more technical nature, BSc (Bachelor of Science) is usually more valuable to employers than BA (Bachelor of Arts) [Note I know this is completely subjective and based on subject, but in the case of economics is probably true]


So I should go to Nottingham instead of Nottingham.... :D

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