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A Which? investigation has led to 10 dangerous carbon monoxide alarms being removed from sale by Amazon and Ebay. All of the unreliable and dangerous alarms were claimed to meet the EU safety s…
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[mod] 4m, 6d agoPosted 4 months, 6 days ago
A Which? investigation has led to 10 dangerous carbon monoxide alarms being removed from sale by Amazon and Ebay.

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All of the unreliable and dangerous alarms were claimed to meet the EU safety standard (EN 50291) for carbon monoxide alarms. But the results of Which? lab tests lead them to believe that these claims are false.

In contrast, 13 other carbon monoxide alarms from leading brands passed every one of Which? 312 gas detection tests.

Which? reports:

Dangerous carbon monoxide alarms to avoid

These three dangerous carbon monoxide alarms collectively failed 26 out of our 72 gas tests. They also come with potentially unsafe instructions advising owners to not install in the kitchen, where in most UK homes you’ll find a gas boiler.

ATZ Saviour Carbon Monoxide Alarm, £12.99
Failed to detect carbon monoxide in six gas tests.

Mudder Carbon Monoxide Alarm, £8.99
Failed to detect the killer gas in five gas tests.

Binwo Carbon Monoxide Alarm, £8.99
Failed to detect the killer gas in 15 gas tests.

Dangerous instructions and lookalike carbon monoxide alarm brands

Our search for the source of the dodgy alarms led us to a factory in China. We’ve seen documents stating that one alarm made there – which is identical in appearance to the models that failed our tests and was offered for sale to us – had passed the EU safety tests.

But on closer inspection, the claimed legitimacy becomes murkier. The documents show only four days between the start and end of testing, when it actually takes at least three months to pass the EU safety tests.

Amazon and Ebay respond
Amazon told us: ‘The products in question have been removed from sale while we conduct a review of them.’ Ebay told us that customer safety is its number one priority, that it’s working with the alarm sellers to ensure its customers are informed, and that it works with Trading Standards to ensure listings comply with the law.

The importers of the Binwo and Mudder alarms didn’t respond to our offer to comment. ATZ Essentials, the seller of the ATZ Saviour alarm, told us it’s removed the alarm from sale, it apologises for any inconvenience and has offered a refund for alarms bought through Amazon.

Recommended Monoxide Alarms

Kidde Single Carbon Monoxide Alarm.- £19.99 - Argos
Lifesaver Carbon Monoxide Alarm - £16.99 - Homebase
FireAngel LED Display Carbon Monoxide Detector - £21 - B&Q
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[mod] 4m, 6d agoPosted 4 months, 6 days ago
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#1
2 Likes #2
Good thread
#3
I've got one that looks very similar I bought from Amazon for £10-ish.

I've contacted seller for refund and will order a different make now!
2 Likes #4
Does anyone have the full list of CO2 alarms that failed their test?
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chrismcmurray86
Does anyone have the full list of CO2 alarms that failed their test?

No. The link doesnt say

Best stick to brands like:
Kiddie
Fire Angel
First Alert
#6
Thanks for posting this. I'm looking for one and will check out the
recommended Monoxide alarms from Which.
1 Like #7
summerof76
Thanks for posting this. I'm looking for one and will check out the
recommended Monoxide alarms from Which.
Got one of the "Lifesaver" ones from Aldi (£11.99) and is a Which Best Buy.
https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72420/0
1 Like #8
Got the fire angel one myself. I know people like to save money and all that but what price do you put on saving you and your families lives?
And good on which? for naming and shaming.
#9
buddhabelly
summerof76
Thanks for posting this. I'm looking for one and will check out the
recommended Monoxide alarms from Which.
Got one of the "Lifesaver" ones from Aldi (£11.99) and is a Which Best Buy.https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72420/0
Pretty sure I got the lifesaver one with 2 smoke alarms for £20 on amazon a year or so ago. It seems to have been rebranded as Kidde but it is exactly the same.

Edited By: avatariii on Oct 18, 2016 00:21
#10
Echo some of the comments above. People often say it's all made in China anyway. But there is a price to be paid for low prices and competition. If you specialise in making compliant safety equipment for a given market, you won't take risks with your products. I'm not a brand person, but I won't compromise on safety (including mains powered electronics and toys), foods and medicines.
banned 1 Like #11
As always, really good informative thread.
1 Like #12
Thanks msmyth - really helpful thread. I bought the Binwo one for my sister and was shocked to hear that it's unsafe (via HUKD WhatsApp). I contacted the seller on Amazon and they responded with:


Dear customer,
Good day!
The product is safe,please do not worry about it.
If you need any help, please do not hesitate to contact us, and we will try our best to assist you.
Thank you for your understanding and best regards,
Coco
Binwo Intelligent Electronics Customer Support Team

I'm not convinced... so have raised a returns request which is apparently with the seller for approval. I've ordered a Lifesaver one from Amazon for £11.99 to replace it.
#13
avatariii
buddhabelly
summerof76
Thanks for posting this. I'm looking for one and will check out the
recommended Monoxide alarms from Which.
Got one of the "Lifesaver" ones from Aldi (£11.99) and is a Which Best Buy.https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72420/0
Pretty sure I got the lifesaver one with 2 smoke alarms for £20 on amazon a year or so ago. It seems to have been rebranded as Kidde but it is exactly the same.


​lifesaver is a Kidde brand, I believe it's their "budget" line of domestic stuff.
#14
My kidde CO400 started giving out 5 quick chirps, searched the Kidde site & alarm didn't even get mentioned, Google provided dead links to Kidde site. Found some manuals on other sites but no mention of 5 chirps. Other websites tell me alarm expired. Will buy another brand now that supports its products properly and for a reasonable time with accurate instructions. As for those fake CO alarms, they're back on ebay already.
#15
buddhabelly
summerof76
Thanks for posting this. I'm looking for one and will check out the
recommended Monoxide alarms from Which.
Got one of the "Lifesaver" ones from Aldi (£11.99) and is a Which Best Buy.https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72420/0
I went for that one in the end :)
#16
summerof76
buddhabelly
summerof76
Thanks for posting this. I'm looking for one and will check out the
recommended Monoxide alarms from Which.
Got one of the "Lifesaver" ones from Aldi (£11.99) and is a Which Best Buy.https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72420/0
I went for that one in the end :)


​Think I'll be at aldi tomorrow, hope there's some left. The one thing I've always had since I left home 27 years ago, this last one actually went off because of high levels before we experienced symptoms. Engineer visited and fixed boiler.

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