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Unsafe & Illegal levels of arsenic found in Babies Rice Cakes

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This is quite worrying ... as we all want the best for our babies. A study by Queen’s University in Belfast has found that 50% of baby rice products contain unsafe level of inorganic arsenic. R… Read More
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[mod] 3w, 4d agoPosted 3 weeks, 4 days ago
This is quite worrying ... as we all want the best for our babies.

A study by Queen’s University in Belfast has found that 50% of baby rice products contain unsafe level of inorganic arsenic.

Researchers have found illegally high amounts which breach EU limits.Consuming too much arsenic has been linked to health problems like cancer, heart disease, nervous system damage .... Specifically for babies it can impair mental and physical development, it can affect IQ and their immune system!!

“Products such as rice cakes and rice cereals are common in babies’ diets. This study found that almost three-quarters of baby crackers specifically marketed for children exceeded the maximum amount of arsenic.

Andy Meharg, a professor of plant and soil sciences at Queen’s

Why is there Arsenic at all? Arsenic occurs in the environment because of pollution, and rice tends to have higher level than other foods as it is grown in polluted waterlogged fields, and too much is harmful to our health.

Babies tend to eat a lot of rice products as their 'first foods', so should we be limiting the amount they eat?

Should food manufacturers do more to alert us to arsenic levels AND work to reduce levels in their products targeted at babies and children?

Will this affect your choices for your Baby?

Link to News Source at The Guardian

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/882145af4af08be253fa5e78bbc461b1f1b79369/0_1920_3800_2279/master/3800.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=bc5c084bf289f41838c68c0f34cdefaf
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[mod] 3w, 4d agoPosted 3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison

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10 Likes #1
Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison


Couldn't of put it better myself or agree more with you. Also did you see the news where in China they eat fake rice it's actually white plastic pellets it's actually cheaper than rice and some of the poorest Chinese people are eating plastic because they can't even afford real rice the cheapest food on the planet what a horrible world we live in.
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fields which had been used for farming with chemical fertilisers (e.g. cotton fields redeployed for rice growing), yes, contains arsenic, but organically grown rice and Thai/real Japanese and Korean rice tend to be good, so I wouldn't buy manufactured, processed rice, big brands, and feed to children, especially babies myself
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison

Couldn't of put it better myself or agree more with you. Also did you see the news where in China they eat fake rice it's actually white plastic pellets it's actually cheaper than rice and some of the poorest Chinese people are eating plastic because they can't even afford real rice the cheapest food on the planet what a horrible world we live in.
Fake rice is proven to be fake news, I had researched into this last year.
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I read an article a few months ago concerning arsenic in rice. The advice was to soak overnight to get rid of the majority of the arsenic (I think it said around 80%).

Obviously that won't work well with rice cakes. (_;)
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison

Sorry, what I meant was that it's not someone adding it to the rice cakes, I will edit to clarify :)
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fields which had been used for farming with chemical fertilisers (e.g. cotton fields redeployed for rice growing), yes, contains arsenic, but organically grown rice and Thai/real Japanese and Korean rice tend to be good, so I wouldn't buy manufactured, processed rice, big brands, and feed to children, especially babies myself

In terms of actual rice i believe it is basmati which is the least contaminated as it doesn't absorb so much when growing.

Rinse rice before use, boil and rinse thru with boiling water from the kettle. doesn't work on rice cakes of course.
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Can't beat a Farleys Rusk.
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Will they be unsafe when we leave the EU?
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Can't beat a Farleys Rusk.

Breakfast of champions, 2 rusks in milk.
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Just a note whenever you hear "unsafe levels of toxin found in xyz" stories. The vast, vast majority of time there is zero health risk in the product.

The maximum levels of these substances is designed for worst case heaped upon worst case. For example it makes the assumption in liquids that it could be boiled down repeatedly in cooking multiple times during the production of other foods, and then the finished product could be consumed 3 times a day every day for decades.

These levels are designed so that even if you were to do all of that, you'd never get the exposure required to have health risks. When they say "it contains twice the safe level" it often means "contains 1/1000th of the maximum safe level but potentially if you're going to eat as is"
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Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!
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Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!


Ok so this story may have been fake news I never really looked into it but it was said to be made in a factory by gangs in China out of potatoes & industrial synthetic resins which was actually cheaper than growing and farming it as reported on the news at the time. Whether it's fake news or not I don't really know.
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fireman1
Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!
Ok so this story may have been fake news I never really looked into it but it was said to be made in a factory by gangs in China out of potatoes & industrial synthetic resins which was actually cheaper than growing and farming it as reported on the news at the time. Whether it's fake news or not I don't really know.
No, we hold you to account, no point in passing news in good faith since you don't really know it is fake or not.
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Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!
Ok so this story may have been fake news I never really looked into it but it was said to be made in a factory by gangs in China out of potatoes & industrial synthetic resins which was actually cheaper than growing and farming it as reported on the news at the time. Whether it's fake news or not I don't really know.
No, we hold you to account, no point in passing news in good faith since you don't really know it is fake or not.


Well that could be said for any news ever haha I expect the news I read to be real why would someone even bother to make this up pointless really... https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38391998 so how do you know the rice was fake news and not fake rice anyhow did the lab tests come back or something.
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I remember see the BBC documentary click me a while ago. Said Basmati was the best as it had lower arsenic and this is the one we eat.
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I remember see the BBC documentary click me a while ago. Said Basmati was the best as it had lower arsenic and this is the one we eat.

That's really interesting, so much for me thinking brown rice is healthier ... makes sense though. Basmati is my fave, which is just as well as I love my rice! (I'll just be soaking it and rinsing it a bit more from now on)
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.

Edited By: qbs on May 06, 2017 00:43
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meanwhile our city centres have air not fit to breath, partly due to poeple buying diesels to save a few quid at the pumps, yet they cost more to serivce and you need to do about 20k plus to make them worthwhile.
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Can't beat a Farleys Rusk.
Breakfast of champions, 2 rusks in milk.
And wear a cardigan or you'll catch a chill.
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.

Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.

Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
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meanwhile our city centres have air not fit to breath, partly due to poeple buying diesels to save a few quid at the pumps, yet they cost more to serivce and you need to do about 20k plus to make them worthwhile.

Don't just blame diesel, petrols not much better
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Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!
Bit like bendy bananas...
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Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!

You'd be surprised. In China they actually produce 'fake eggs' (probably other countries too) - made from a whole bunch of bizarre ingredients..
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fireman1
Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!
You'd be surprised. In China they actually produce 'fake eggs' (probably other countries too) - made from a whole bunch of bizarre ingredients..

And fake meat and fake fruit, it just goes to show in such a heavily populated countryhow pricey food is compared to synthetic stuff and the labour to make it.
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
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splender
larrylightweight
fireman1
Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!
Ok so this story may have been fake news I never really looked into it but it was said to be made in a factory by gangs in China out of potatoes & industrial synthetic resins which was actually cheaper than growing and farming it as reported on the news at the time. Whether it's fake news or not I don't really know.
No, we hold you to account, no point in passing news in good faith since you don't really know it is fake or not.
Well that could be said for any news ever haha I expect the news I read to be real why would someone even bother to make this up pointless really... https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38391998 so how do you know the rice was fake news and not fake rice anyhow did the lab tests come back or something.
In your link it says "They've sent a sample to the laboratories to determine exactly what the "rice" is made of. ", then since 2016 no more news, if it were to be fake then it is industrial scale, you have to ask why no journalist around the world follow up.
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Any fake "food" news report has to be followed up with scientific lab test results. This is basic common people routine in understanding. The conspicous absence of further news suggest the reporters had lost interest. And you would have thought if it were to be really real story that rice is faked then you would expect that same BBC reporter would be jumping on it like a rash but s/he didn't since 2016, so that fake rice news story is fake.
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But here http://www.snopes.com/plastic-rice-from-china/

Edited By: splender on May 06, 2017 12:40
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.

So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
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Eating plastic rice because real rice is too expensive. Haha Do they buy it with toy money and cook it on a Fisher price hob.
The things some people believe!
Actually nobody eats plastic rice because it is cheaper. Plastic rice is mixed in illegally with the genuine stuff in order to make more profits for the crooked sellers. The unsuspecting buyers eat it thinking it is genuine rice.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3920660/Could-rice-PLASTIC-Shocking-footage-underground-food-factory-sparks-fears-fake-grains.html
Sadly it is not a belief but the harsh reality of life nowadays which is all about making money quickly - knowingly putting people's health at risk.
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?

What are you on about, no one said arsenic was some unnatural chemical the point is more and more of it is ending up in the soil and getting sucked up by plants.
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?
What are you on about, no one said arsenic was some unnatural chemical the point is more and more of it is ending up in the soil and getting sucked up by plants.
As you don't seem to have bothered to read the material in shabbard's post #16, I'll quote from it.
"Because arsenic can be found in soil and water, small amounts can get into food, but generally these levels are too low to cause significant concern. Rice however, has around 10 – 20 times more arsenic than other cereal crops. This is because it is grown in flooded conditions which make it much easier for arsenic to leave the soil and enter the rice.

Michael Mosley met Prof Andy Meharg from Queen’s University, Belfast, who has worked in this field for decades. He regularly tests rice and rice products and in general he has seen the following:
Basmati rice contains lower levels than other rice
Brown rice usually contains more arsenic than white rice (because of the husk)
Growing rice organically doesn’t make a difference to levels
Rice cakes and crackers can contain levels higher than in cooked rice.
The levels of arsenic found in rice milk far exceed the amounts that would be allowed in drinking water "

There's no increase in the amount of arsenic in rice. It's always been there.
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?
What are you on about, no one said arsenic was some unnatural chemical the point is more and more of it is ending up in the soil and getting sucked up by plants.
As you don't seem to have bothered to read the material in shabbard's post #16, I'll quote from it.
"Because arsenic can be found in soil and water, small amounts can get into food, but generally these levels are too low to cause significant concern. Rice however, has around 10 – 20 times more arsenic than other cereal crops. This is because it is grown in flooded conditions which make it much easier for arsenic to leave the soil and enter the rice.
Michael Mosley met Prof Andy Meharg from Queen’s University, Belfast, who has worked in this field for decades. He regularly tests rice and rice products and in general he has seen the following:
Basmati rice contains lower levels than other rice
Brown rice usually contains more arsenic than white rice (because of the husk)
Growing rice organically doesn’t make a difference to levels
Rice cakes and crackers can contain levels higher than in cooked rice.
The levels of arsenic found in rice milk far exceed the amounts that would be allowed in drinking water "
There's no increase in the amount of arsenic in rice. It's always been there.

There is increase, yes it has always been there but there is increased levels of these things in the soil of heavily poluted countries.

http://www.indiawaterportal.org/topics/arsenic
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?
What are you on about, no one said arsenic was some unnatural chemical the point is more and more of it is ending up in the soil and getting sucked up by plants.
As you don't seem to have bothered to read the material in shabbard's post #16, I'll quote from it.
"Because arsenic can be found in soil and water, small amounts can get into food, but generally these levels are too low to cause significant concern. Rice however, has around 10 – 20 times more arsenic than other cereal crops. This is because it is grown in flooded conditions which make it much easier for arsenic to leave the soil and enter the rice.
Michael Mosley met Prof Andy Meharg from Queen’s University, Belfast, who has worked in this field for decades. He regularly tests rice and rice products and in general he has seen the following:
Basmati rice contains lower levels than other rice
Brown rice usually contains more arsenic than white rice (because of the husk)
Growing rice organically doesn’t make a difference to levels
Rice cakes and crackers can contain levels higher than in cooked rice.
The levels of arsenic found in rice milk far exceed the amounts that would be allowed in drinking water "
There's no increase in the amount of arsenic in rice. It's always been there.
There is increase, yes it has always been there but there is increased levels of these things in the soil of heavily poluted countries.http://www.indiawaterportal.org/topics/arsenic
Yes. And if you actually bother to read what it says, the arsenic is naturally occurring from natural breakdown of arsenic bearing rock.
Industrial pollution is a different thing altogether.
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?
What are you on about, no one said arsenic was some unnatural chemical the point is more and more of it is ending up in the soil and getting sucked up by plants.
As you don't seem to have bothered to read the material in shabbard's post #16, I'll quote from it.
"Because arsenic can be found in soil and water, small amounts can get into food, but generally these levels are too low to cause significant concern. Rice however, has around 10 – 20 times more arsenic than other cereal crops. This is because it is grown in flooded conditions which make it much easier for arsenic to leave the soil and enter the rice.
Michael Mosley met Prof Andy Meharg from Queen’s University, Belfast, who has worked in this field for decades. He regularly tests rice and rice products and in general he has seen the following:
Basmati rice contains lower levels than other rice
Brown rice usually contains more arsenic than white rice (because of the husk)
Growing rice organically doesn’t make a difference to levels
Rice cakes and crackers can contain levels higher than in cooked rice.
The levels of arsenic found in rice milk far exceed the amounts that would be allowed in drinking water "
There's no increase in the amount of arsenic in rice. It's always been there.
There is increase, yes it has always been there but there is increased levels of these things in the soil of heavily poluted countries.http://www.indiawaterportal.org/topics/arsenic
Yes. And if you actually bother to read what it says, the arsenic is naturally occurring from natural breakdown of arsenic bearing rock.
Industrial pollution is a different thing altogether.

Mining (_;)

Oh and...
"Because it occurs naturally in the environment and as a by-product of some agricultural and industrial activities, it can enter drinking water through the ground or as runoff into surface water sources."

"exposure sources of arsenic in the environment include natural and anthropogenic sources:
Natural – Leaching of ambient arsenic in groundwater from sediments containing arsenic bearing minerals; leaching and percolation of arsenic in soils.
Anthropogenic – Agrochemicals, wood preservatives, industrial sources, mineral processing, acid mine drainage, burning of fossil fuels etc."

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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?
What are you on about, no one said arsenic was some unnatural chemical the point is more and more of it is ending up in the soil and getting sucked up by plants.
As you don't seem to have bothered to read the material in shabbard's post #16, I'll quote from it.
"Because arsenic can be found in soil and water, small amounts can get into food, but generally these levels are too low to cause significant concern. Rice however, has around 10 – 20 times more arsenic than other cereal crops. This is because it is grown in flooded conditions which make it much easier for arsenic to leave the soil and enter the rice.
Michael Mosley met Prof Andy Meharg from Queen’s University, Belfast, who has worked in this field for decades. He regularly tests rice and rice products and in general he has seen the following:
Basmati rice contains lower levels than other rice
Brown rice usually contains more arsenic than white rice (because of the husk)
Growing rice organically doesn’t make a difference to levels
Rice cakes and crackers can contain levels higher than in cooked rice.
The levels of arsenic found in rice milk far exceed the amounts that would be allowed in drinking water "
There's no increase in the amount of arsenic in rice. It's always been there.
There is increase, yes it has always been there but there is increased levels of these things in the soil of heavily poluted countries.http://www.indiawaterportal.org/topics/arsenic
Yes. And if you actually bother to read what it says, the arsenic is naturally occurring from natural breakdown of arsenic bearing rock.
Industrial pollution is a different thing altogether.
Mining (_;)
Oh and...
"Because it occurs naturally in the environment and as a by-product of some agricultural and industrial activities, it can enter drinking water through the ground or as runoff into surface water sources."
"exposure sources of arsenic in the environment include natural and anthropogenic sources:
Natural – Leaching of ambient arsenic in groundwater from sediments containing arsenic bearing minerals; leaching and percolation of arsenic in soils.
Anthropogenic – Agrochemicals, wood preservatives, industrial sources, mineral processing, acid mine drainage, burning of fossil fuels etc."
If you extract your head from your posterior for 5 minutes, you can maybe explain to me how people in India can avoid arsenic in groundwater when the arsenic in the groundwater has always been there, and always will, as it's carried downstream in broken down rock/silt, that's the foundation of their soil.
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Natural my ****, rice grows in water logged fields the amount in rice like the amount of heavy metals in fish is a direct consequence of our polution of the planet. The 3 biggest ricer growers are china, india and America, the first two have heavily poluted waters from industry thats poisioning the soil and getting into all crops, America isn't that much better as long grain is mostly GM over there so its more hardy to the pesticides so they can spray it more. A case of choose your poison
What a load of cobblers. There's been naturally occurring arsenic that gets taken up by plants since long before there was any industry, or people, on the planet.
The programme referred to in shabbard's post #16.
And adding to millarcat's post #17, pre-soaking and rinsing rice also shortens the cooking time.
Of course there has its a naturally occurring substance, but that doesn't change the fact industries are increasing the amount of it in water ways due to poor environmental laws, the mining industry is full of it as is the electronics industry and its in some pesticides.
Mercury is natural too but 50 years ago the fish were not full of it.
You have to understand and differentiate between naturally occurring and introduced toxins. Your blanket generalisation is on a par with the morons that go on about 'chemicals' all the time.
So arsenic from mining operations and the coal industry in china isn't natural then? If i dug up crude oil and chucked it all over a field would you consider the crops untainted because crude oil is natural?
What the heck are you on about?
What are you on about, no one said arsenic was some unnatural chemical the point is more and more of it is ending up in the soil and getting sucked up by plants.
As you don't seem to have bothered to read the material in shabbard's post #16, I'll quote from it.
"Because arsenic can be found in soil and water, small amounts can get into food, but generally these levels are too low to cause significant concern. Rice however, has around 10 – 20 times more arsenic than other cereal crops. This is because it is grown in flooded conditions which make it much easier for arsenic to leave the soil and enter the rice.
Michael Mosley met Prof Andy Meharg from Queen’s University, Belfast, who has worked in this field for decades. He regularly tests rice and rice products and in general he has seen the following:
Basmati rice contains lower levels than other rice
Brown rice usually contains more arsenic than white rice (because of the husk)
Growing rice organically doesn’t make a difference to levels
Rice cakes and crackers can contain levels higher than in cooked rice.
The levels of arsenic found in rice milk far exceed the amounts that would be allowed in drinking water "
There's no increase in the amount of arsenic in rice. It's always been there.
There is increase, yes it has always been there but there is increased levels of these things in the soil of heavily poluted countries.http://www.indiawaterportal.org/topics/arsenic
Yes. And if you actually bother to read what it says, the arsenic is naturally occurring from natural breakdown of arsenic bearing rock.
Industrial pollution is a different thing altogether.
Mining (_;)
Oh and...
"Because it occurs naturally in the environment and as a by-product of some agricultural and industrial activities, it can enter drinking water through the ground or as runoff into surface water sources."
"exposure sources of arsenic in the environment include natural and anthropogenic sources:
Natural – Leaching of ambient arsenic in groundwater from sediments containing arsenic bearing minerals; leaching and percolation of arsenic in soils.
Anthropogenic – Agrochemicals, wood preservatives, industrial sources, mineral processing, acid mine drainage, burning of fossil fuels etc."
If you extract your head from your posterior for 5 minutes, you can maybe explain to me how people in India can avoid arsenic in groundwater when the arsenic in the groundwater has always been there, and always will, as it's carried downstream in broken down rock/silt, that's the foundation of their soil.

Well first of all they can have a government that doesn't set the safe limit at 50x the WHO limit, secondly they can clean up their environmental laws and stop poluting their land, thirdly they can return to having above ground water sources like they was mainly using pre 1950s or invest some of their space race money into creating a proper network of clean water wells
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"Well first of all they can have a government that doesn't set the safe limit at 50x the WHO limit" Source?
Arsenic contamination is natural,
Above ground water, other than directly collected rainwater, is river water, so will still contain arsenic.
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"Well first of all they can have a government that doesn't set the safe limit at 50x the WHO limit" Source?
Arsenic contamination is natural,
Above ground water, other than directly collected rainwater, is river water, so will still contain arsenic.

Arsenic poisoning was much rarer 50 years ago when they used surface water instead of deep wells
The government has the power to shut heavily contaminated wells but they don't, they could also provide filtration systems at the wells as theres verious ways to get it out the water such as reverse osmosis but they don't, they'd prefer to spend their money on space rockets instead of their own people.

Now I'm done with this conversation.

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"Well first of all they can have a government that doesn't set the safe limit at 50x the WHO limit" Source?
Arsenic contamination is natural,
Above ground water, other than directly collected rainwater, is river water, so will still contain arsenic.
Arsenic poisoning was much rarer 50 years ago when they used surface water instead of deep wells
The government has the power to shut heavily contaminated wells but they don't, they could also provide filtration systems at the wells as theres verious ways to get it out the water such as reverse osmosis but they don't, they'd prefer to spend their money on space rockets instead of their own people.
Now I'm done with this conversation.
Deep wells aren't the problem. For every well the government might close, others would open. People, in rural areas particularly, are desperate for water.
I know the source of the arsenic, but I'm still waiting for the source of your figures.

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