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Updating my PC to play .MKV files and other HD downloads.

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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
Ok so i just bought myself a new hdtv ... Now id like to run hd movies i download on it!

Im not very computer savy , i did manage to install my last graphics card tho no probs!.



Also i can run HD music vids no bother and also the trailers...

Here are sum details on my CPUZ reading.

Intel pentium 4 530
Core voltage 1.344 ish

Core speed 3000.9mhz ish

L1 d-cache - size 16 kbytes
L2 cache - size 1024 kbytes


Graphics interface

Version AGP version 3.0
Transfer rate 8x Max supported 8x

Memory 1024 MBytes

Memory slot selection - DDR

Slot 1

Module size 0 512 MBytes
Max bandwith pc2700 (166Mhz)

slot 2 - DDR

Module size 512 MBytes
Max Bandwith pc2100 (133mhz)

voltage for both 2.5v

Windows version - Microsoft Windows xp media centre edition professional

Service pack 2


The graphics card i have installed at the moment is the Nvidia Geforce 6tm 6200 , 256mb ddr agp8x , dual ramdacs 400mhz.

So can anyone point me in the right direction on which components id need to buy to get this baby running 720p movies!.
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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
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#1
Can't you just download the free VLC viewer software and just connect it to the TV via the VGA socket? MKV files do seem to take some decoding but if my old xbox can manage some of them then I imagine your current setup should be fine. Just make sure that you don't have lots of applications open (even in the system tray) to swallow up your available memory.
#2
I have tried alot of viewers inc VLC, they work with music videos and trailers in HD on my monitor, i have not received my tv yet , but is theyre any chance it could be my monitor that cant handle the images?.

Dont understand how it can play HD music vids and trailers tho...
#3
there are a list of alternate players on the matroska site as well as libary files and diagnostics, maybe these can help you?

http://www.matroska.org/downloads/windows.html
#4
Usually its down to pure processing power when ur playing HD content on your PC without dedicated mp4 decoding on your graphics card (yours doesnt). I think the High 7 and 8 series nvidias only do this and they dont come on agp ports only PCI express which ur comp probably wont.

Having said that extra memory to take care of background process should help. You could get 2gig which i presume is your motherboard max) for about £50 and this will defnitely help.

But usually the most important aspect of HD playback is the decoding codec that deals with decoding the mp4 streams in the mkv files. The best one by a mile is CoreAVC its less processor intensive and way more dynamic in the way it deals with mp4 streams. Its not freeware though you might have to pay like 20 dollars for it if you want a legitimate copy. well worth it.

Overall your current setup wont be able to play 1080p HD completely smoothly but 720p is definitely achievable. Get some ram and sort out ur codecs.

Let me kno if you need more help.
#5
4Site
Usually its down to pure processing power when ur playing HD content on your PC without dedicated mp4 decoding on your graphics card (yours doesnt). I think the High 7 and 8 series nvidias only do this and they dont come on agp ports only PCI express which ur comp probably wont.

Having said that extra memory to take care of background process should help. You could get 2gig which i presume is your motherboard max) for about £50 and this will defnitely help.

But usually the most important aspect of HD playback is the decoding codec that deals with decoding the mp4 streams in the mkv files. The best one by a mile is CoreAVC its less processor intensive and way more dynamic in the way it deals with mp4 streams. Its not freeware though you might have to pay like 20 dollars for it if you want a legitimate copy. well worth it.

Overall your current setup wont be able to play 1080p HD completely smoothly but 720p is definitely achievable. Get some ram and sort out ur codecs.

Let me kno if you need more help.


Not quite tru as his memory is ddr1 and the cheap stuff about at the mo is ddr2, i have an onboard 6100 palying full 1080p off the hdd no probs but that is with a dual core [email protected]
on-board graphics arent as efficienct as card items so it is do-able
You may find though the mismatch in your ram will cause system slowdowns mixing diff speed mem sticks is a bad idea, some boards are ok, some slow down, some will sit there for weeks then trash your hdd.
go buy a single stick of 1gb ddr400 if ur board will take it and use msconfig to stop all the **** starting on load up thet slows the system down
install media portal and see if its decoders are any faster i use them and they do the job
any probs install ffdshow its free and effective
#6
OK, so i dont need a graphics card, can anyone point me in the direction of sum memory, 2gb to make it run smoother.
#7
To be honest I just dont think you're going to get the horse power you need for decoding HD content with a system like that..

For example, I could play 720p .mkv files fine on my AMD X2 2.2ghz (dual core), but when it came to 1080p it would stutter every 20 seconds or so.. Just couldnt quite keep up with the decoding. This was with 2gb of PC3200 DDR ram.

Wasn't until I got a Quad core E6600 when I could play back 1080p .mkv files flawlessly. This is all under Vista by the way. Under XP I may have got away with 1080p on the AMD rig.

You could try some faster memory. From the looks of your setup you could get 2gb of DDR 400 PC3200. That might help a little. No guarantee it'll solve your problems though. Personally I'd think about going at least dual core, and make it an Intel at that.

Also to add to the above about hardware acceleration from the Nvidia 7/8 series, that only works when NVIDIA Pure Video is installed, and that only works with content in Bluray, HD DVD, or WMV. Some h.264 videos work, but it doesn't work for .mkv files or many of the other compressed HD formats.
#8
baconsandwich
To be honest I just dont think you're going to get the horse power you need for decoding HD content with a system like that..

For example, I could play 720p .mkv files fine on my AMD X2 2.2ghz (dual core), but when it came to 1080p it would stutter every 20 seconds or so.. Just couldnt quite keep up with the decoding. This was with 2gb of PC3200 DDR ram.


as i said not true, some decoders are much more effective than others, maybe some thing else running on your system was causing the stuttering but i have an amd x2 4400 running at 2.1Ghz playing 1080p AND downscaliing it to 1360*768 for the plasma's benefit its as smooth as silk but this is off a hdd so maybe the optical drive the week link? maybe its vista?
#9
Download the CCCP project player here. it handles all hd content brilliantly. I use it to play all my 720p hd content and Am lovin it. Not sure how it will perform with your system config though. mine is athlon 64 x2 2.5ghz overclocked to 2.85
#10
saayinla
Download the CCCP project player here. it handles all hd content brilliantly. I use it to play all my 720p hd content and Am lovin it. Not sure how it will perform with your system config though. mine is athlon 64 x2 2.5ghz overclocked to 2.85


looks like a nice option, i've been using k-lite pack and on last build just used ffdshow, but shall try this on my next htpc build
#11
I just ran a HD vid thru my xbox 360 and it came out running smooth.......,720p on a normal tv, but when i run it thru my HD tv when is arrives 2moz will it actually be in HD?
#12
Ok scrap that i have seen that n the settings it is scaled down, but if i change the settings to HD res will i get HD on my samsung (receieving 2moz of course!)
#13
This has got me thinking since i'm getting a new lcd tv soon. I have an old shuttle ss56gv3 that I was using for work that is doing nothing since I got my laptop.

http://www.gemma.co.uk/shuttle_xpc/ss56gv3_images/SS56G3DView.jpg

If I remember it has an intel P4 3.2ghz prescott, 1gb ram (single sick with a socket spare), 350gb HDD and only onboard SIS graphics. If I was to buy a new AGP graphics card what would be my limit as far as HD content. Would their be any point in trying to stick a Blu-Ray drive in if I removed HDCP complience with AnyDVD and PowerDVD.

I would probably strip software back to a minimum to save resources as I have my lappy for the net.
#14
Ungreat
This has got me thinking since i'm getting a new lcd tv soon. I have an old shuttle ss56gv3 that I was using for work that is doing nothing since I got my laptop.

http://www.gemma.co.uk/shuttle_xpc/ss56gv3_images/SS56G3DView.jpg

If I remember it has an intel P4 3.2ghz prescott, 1gb ram (single sick with a socket spare), 350gb HDD and only onboard SIS graphics. If I was to buy a new AGP graphics card what would be my limit as far as HD content. Would their be any point in trying to stick a Blu-Ray drive in if I removed HDCP complience with AnyDVD and PowerDVD.

I would probably strip software back to a minimum to save resources as I have my lappy for the net.


funnily enu the sis graphics are the only one i have not tried in this scenario, dl latest drivers see if it will do same res as your panel, usually 1360*768, suck it and see
pls report back nforce onboard vga is the only one ive found that can do this natively
ps the p4 prescott runs dammed hot might be a bit noisy for the lounge, but aside from that a workable plan
#15
maddogb
funnily enu the sis graphics are the only one i have not tried in this scenario, dl latest drivers see if it will do same res as your panel, usually 1360*768, suck it and see
pls report back nforce onboard vga is the only one ive found that can do this natively
ps the p4 prescott runs dammed hot might be a bit noisy for the lounge, but aside from that a workable plan


The ****** onboard graphics doesn't support widescreen resolutions (even after driver updates) so i'll need to update with an AGP graphics card.
#16
Ungreat
The ****** onboard graphics doesn't support widescreen resolutions (even after driver updates) so i'll need to update with an AGP graphics card.


thanks for that, no doubt at some stage the curiosity would have driven me crazy
so far i've bought bout 4 boards and several cpus just to see if a quiet, fast and stable htpc is a reality without spending a fortune and you know what, i still dont know lol
#17
maddogb
thanks for that, no doubt at some stage the curiosity would have driven me crazy
so far i've bought bout 4 boards and several cpus just to see if a quiet, fast and stable htpc is a reality without spending a fortune and you know what, i still dont know lol


Any AGP graphics cards you could recommend for my ****** little shuttle. :roll:

Just something cheap (not hundreds of pounds) that gives me the correct widescreen res, can handle HD (too whatever level) and has whatever TV connectors you would recommend.
#18
My laptop handles 720p mkv HD rips fine while outputting them to my TV, and its only a rubbish built in GFX card, i didn't realise the gfx card was that important.
#19
Im hoping that i can run the videos thru tveristy/xbox 360 !

I ran a HD movie thru it on my normal tv and it was obviously scaled down, it ran perfectly.

I will be able to up the res when my new tv arrives today and hopefully it works ok!.
#20
Ungreat
Any AGP graphics cards you could recommend for my ****** little shuttle. :roll:

Just something cheap (not hundreds of pounds) that gives me the correct widescreen res, can handle HD (too whatever level) and has whatever TV connectors you would recommend.


Watch out for cheap nvidias such as 6600 or 7600, these can be bought in silent versions "no fan" and can do pretty much any resolution and make ideal cards for this job
#21
I got a Geforce 7600 512mb AGP from pc world for about 60 quid christmas was definitely worth it. Checkout prices in store and compare with online prices as they defnitely vary. If possible get to price match amazon.co.uk and u should save tenner.

I got one of the cheap 42" tosbibas from christmas time for the bedroom. The funny thing is although its a 720p/1080i lcd the HDMI input supports 1080p. I use my laptop linked thru a HDMI to DVI lead to the comp and use it to play 1080p content and it plays awesome. Although the Laptops perfectly capable at 2ghz Dual Core and 2gb ram with a built in 7600 go card. Initially the content would stutter with CCCP codec pack or ffdshow. This stutter didnt correct itself till I uninstalled the other codecs and used CoreAvc 720p always played fine. Anyone else have any expericence with different codecs?
#22
Any good budget AGP cards with HDMI?

Also how powerful would a system need to be to run 720p x264-hv blu ray rips (not that I support piracy) smoothly.
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#24
Ungreat
Any good budget AGP cards with HDMI?

Also how powerful would a system need to be to run 720p x264-hv blu ray rips (not that I support piracy) smoothly.

dont think there was any made soz u might get away with dvi > hdmi cable adapter, got one but aint tried it yet so cant say for sure
#25
Been doing a bit of research and it seems the 2600 XT AGP card is good for HD content (upto 1080p) if I replace my ****** 200w shuttle psu.

Seems it does most of the processing of HD taking the strain of the CPU.

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