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USA: Urgent - Stop the execution of Troy Davis

choc1969 Avatar
8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
From Amnesty International (please register your objections)

Troy Davis is scheduled to be executed in Georgia at 7pm local time on 27 October. He has been on death row for 17 years for a murder he maintains he did not commit.

The Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles has already rejected clemency for Troy Davis, and has indicated that it will not reconsider its decision. It has sole authority to grant executive clemency in Georgia capital cases.

Register objections here: http://amnesty.org.uk/actions_details.asp?ActionID=481


Update:

The US Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit issued a stay for Georgia death row inmate Troy Davis on October 24. The federal appeals courts three-judge panel ordered both sides to draft briefs to address wheter Davis can be executed if he can demonstrate his likely innocence. Davis case has garnered both international and national attention. Former President Jimmy Carter and the European Union were among those calling for a stay of execution. Davis was scheduled to be executed on October 27 after the U.S. Supreme Court denied review following Davis' unsuccessful appeal to the Georgia Supreme Court.
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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#2
what if he did do it?
#3
Is that all we have to go on? He maintains he's innocent? Don't they all say that.
#4
shanecr;3279463
what if he did do it?


what if he didn't ? :?

have you read the full article ? witnesses have retracted statements, no murder weapon......
[mod]#5
Without a completely factual and impartial overview of the case i wouldn't want to add my name based purely on him maintaining his innocence and his side of the story.
#6
At the trial, Troy Davis admitted that he had been at the scene of the shooting, but claimed that he had neither assaulted Larry Young nor shot Officer MacPhail. There was no physical evidence against Troy Davis and the weapon used in the crime was never found. The case against him consisted entirely of witness testimony. In affidavits signed over the years since the trial, a majority of the state’s witnesses have recanted or contradicted their testimony. In addition, there is post-trial testimony implicating another man, Sylvester Coles, as the gunman.
#7
i mean...kenny ritchie.....i dont think he shoulda got let off either. what with his behaviour since returning to scotland.
#8
choc1969;3279468
what if he didn't ? :?

have you read the full article ? witnesses have retracted statements, no murder weapon......

It's something anyone can say though.

"I didn't do it"

I could maintain that from today until I die.

Although I don't know the full story I'm just another "What if's".

I won't be signing it however.
#9
Syzable
Without a completely factual and impartial overview of the case i wouldn't want to add my name based purely on him maintaining his innocence and his side of the story.


exactly.
#10
The evidence to go on is pretty much non-existent, plus who give one person the right to take another's life? Plus 17 years not knowing if he is to die the next day, that torture is unimaginable!

already registered, it would be great if this can be stopped!
#11
so what makes this guy so different that we should petition and only some of the witnesses retracted their statements. I didnt see any of your threads aksing us to try and save any of the 42 prisoners killed in 2007
#12
Staroffurby;3279490
The evidence to go on is pretty much non-existent, plus who give one person the right to take another's life? Plus 17 years not knowing if he is to die the next day, that torture is unimaginable!

already registered, it would be great if this can be stopped!


thats my opinion too :)
#13
mcfallg;3279499
so what makes this guy so different that we should petition and only some of the witnesses retracted their statements. I didnt see any of your threads aksing us to try and save any of the 42 prisoners killed in 2007


I've only recently joined Amnesty International and will be signing ALL death row petitions.
#14
The evidence to go on is pretty much non-existent


i didnt relaise you were at any of the trials. all you have to go on is some propaganda that you have read on some website
#15
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Troy Davis was convicted in 1991 of the murder of 27-year-old Officer Mark Allen MacPhail, white, who was shot and killed in the car park of a Burger King restaurant in Savannah, Georgia, in the early hours of 19 August 1989. Davis was also convicted of assaulting Larry Young, a homeless man, who was accosted immediately before Officer MacPhail was shot.


[color=white]I think this paragraph says it all really.[/color]
#16
So he shot the sheriff, but didn't shoot no deputy?
#17
mcfallg
i didnt relaise you were at any of the trials. all you have to go on is some propaganda that you have read on some website


That argument could be said to you too, what have you got to go on? I have read quite a bit about this trail. The trail is only a small part of what the campaign is about. I am not here to educate you or anyone else. I am just doing what i feel is morally right, stand up and be counted. If you want an argument good for you. Go and find it some place else.

If your really that bothered just use google you will find loads of information.
[mod]#18
leefal;3279561
So he shot the sheriff, but didn't shoot no deputy?


:lol:

I think everyone should remember to respect the OP's opinion though before the thread spirals off. :) You say tomato and all that. :thumbsup:
#19
Staroffurby
That argument could be said to you too, what have you got to go on? I have read quite a bit about this trail. The trail is only a small part of what the campaign is about. I am not here to educate you or anyone else. I am just doing what i feel is morally right, stand up and be counted. If you want an argument good for you. Go and find it some place else.

If your really that bothered just use google you will find loads of information.




Im not saying he should or should not be executed, all i am saying is what is so important about this case and this man. The USA has judiciary system and no petition is going to reverse their decision, especially since it is regarding the death of a white police man
#20
mcfallg
Im not saying he should or should not be executed, all i am saying is what is so important about this case and this man. The USA has judiciary system and no petition is going to reverse their decision, especially since it is regarding the death of a white police man


If we all took that view and just sit back do nothing, what a sad world this would be! Some of us are prepared to fight for what we see as morally right.
#21
The truth is that only the prisoner, the victim, 1st account witnesses and God know what happened. All we are doing is speculating on what we read and opinionating on how we feel about what we read.

IF the guy is innocent then they will have executed an innocent man. IF the guy is guilty then justice has been done.

The cold hard fact is that unless there is some divine intervention here, nothing is going to stop the US from executing this guy. you can petition, shout, scream and stamp your feet as much as you want. The cold harsh reality is at the end of the day its their legal system that determines the outcome and only the grace of God that can stop it.
#22
Staroffurby
If we all took that view and just sit back do nothing, what a sad world this would be! Some of us are prepared to fight for what we see as morally right.


and some of us will sit back because what we believe is going on is right also
#23
I agree with mcfallg on this issue.
[mod]#24
Having affidavits (for those who do not know, these are sworn statements) is poor evidence in any trial (this is only my opinion). Considering the consequences in this case, it is quite unbelievable.
#25
mcfallg
and some of us will sit back because what we believe is going on is right also


If that your opinion then fine, but killing a man under the name of a country's legal system is still wrong in my book. Nobody has the right to kill another, its that simple!

Each to there own.
#26
It's innocent until proven guilty, he's been proven guilty, obviously there was enough evidence to prove him guilty and setence him to death.

the "Nobody has a right to kill another."

So it's fine for someone to murder someone and get a life sentence - why can't that person suffer in the same way as the victim?

The officer he 'shot' must have felt pain - so he gets to sit in a cell all his life?

Leathal Injection isn't painful enough in my opinion.

and I don't want to cause an arguement.
#27
t0mm
It's innocent until proven guilty, he's been proven guilty, obviously there was enough evidence to prove him guilty and setence him to death.

the "Nobody has a right to kill another."

So it's fine for someone to murder someone and get a life sentence - why can't that person suffer in the same way as the victim?

The officer he 'shot' must have felt pain - so he gets to sit in a cell all his life?

Leathal Injection isn't painful enough in my opinion.

and I don't want to cause an arguement.



Amen to that, an eye for an eye
[mod]#28
t0mm
It's innocent until proven guilty, he's been proven guilty, obviously there was enough evidence to prove him guilty and setence him to death.

the "Nobody has a right to kill another."

So it's fine for someone to murder someone and get a life sentence - why can't that person suffer in the same way as the victim?

The officer he 'shot' must have felt pain - so he gets to sit in a cell all his life?

Leathal Injection isn't painful enough in my opinion.

and I don't want to cause an arguement.


That shouldnt cause an argument. Hopefully it will only contribute to a debate.
I agree. It is up to the jury to prove someone guilty and if they find a verdict of guilty then it needs to be on an overwhelming verdict. Im not up to speed on US law but if its like English law it needs to be 1000% proven that whoever is on trial caused the death of whoever was the victim. This case was found on affidavits which in my opinion is very weak. Then they get retracted after the case. It makes you ask many questions about the American legal system. Especially when someones life is at stake.
#29
mcfallg
Amen to that, an eye for an eye


So the judge gets tried for murder then too, what about paedophiles? Do we magically transform them back to kids to commit the same crimes on them?

On another point what about waiting 17 years on death row, nobody seems to have mentioned that yet? Is that not out of order? 17 years he will not get back!
#30
Everyone on this thread is entitled to their opinion whether I we all agree or disagree. Please don't turn this into a hate thread.

I have voiced my opinion that I don't believe in the death sentence for this man as there is doubt that the trial was fair and evidence against him had been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.......in my opinion.

Others that agree feel free to register your objections.

Others that disagree, feel free to write your reasons why, if you choose to. :)
#31
Staroffurby;3279750
So the judge gets tried for murder then too, what about paedophiles? Do we magically transform them back to kids to commit the same crimes on them?

On another point what about waiting 17 years on death row, nobody seems to have mentioned that yet? Is that not out of order? 17 years he will not get back!

And what about the family of the victim, the rest of their life they'll never get him back.

as above, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, at least he's had breath in his lungs for the last 17 years.

choc1969;3279755
Everyone on this thread is entitled to their opinion whether I we all agree or disagree. Please don't turn this into a hate thread.

I have voiced my opinion that I don't believe in the death sentence for this man as there is doubt that the trial was fair and evidence against him had been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.......in my opinion.

Others that agree feel free to register your objections.

Others that disagree, feel free to write your reasons why, if you choose to. :)

Thank you for understanding.
#32
shanecr
what if he did do it?


What if he did? The taking of one life should never, ever lead to the taking of another :x
#33
Registered my objections - thanks for bringing this to my attention choco1969. :thumbsup: I won't bother reading back through the thread as there will undoubtedly be the usual negative responses to something like this. Never let them get you down though, and never stop digging! Respect :)
#34
Liddle ol' me;3279999
Registered my objections - thanks for bringing this to my attention choco1969. :thumbsup: I won't bother reading back through the thread as there will undoubtedly be the usual negative responses to something like this. Never let them get you down though, and never stop digging! Respect :)


I like to fight what I think is right so cheers hun :thumbsup:

I do not think less of anyone who thinks otherwise, debate is healthy, as long as it is put across in a mature way and doesn't go off tangent :)
1 Like #35
I too have registered my objections, I am horrified at state sanctioned murder. I cannot believe that the gas chamber is still used in America, it's barbaric.
1 Like #36
Staroffurby;3279750
So the judge gets tried for murder then too, what about paedophiles? Do we magically transform them back to kids to commit the same crimes on them?

As the jurist is operating within the legal system of that country, why should he be tried, and as for the rest of the sentence, what has this to do with the facts stated?
Typical if no one agrees with your view raise the "P" demon from the tabloids to enhance your agenda. These people have stated why they oppose your view, stop using hysteria and use a rational argument to present your side.
#37
the american courts have no desire to kill an innocent man , all avenues will have been exhausted , we are without the facts and are furnished with snapshots of doubt , im sure the family of the victium could show a 100 reasons why this persons exsistence should be eradicated due to the evidence obtained , its an assumption that the judge jury and legal system to be inaccurate in there finding based on what little is revealled by amnesty and unquestioned statements after the fact are not conculsive proof hence its flawed to assume suddern innocence based on tainted evidence

all life is precious , cant see a problem in putting out the rubbish , if someone takes everything from them then i see no problem with the same being returned in kind
#38
tonyd19565
As the jurist is operating within the legal system of that country, why should he be tried, and as for the rest of the sentence, what has this to do with the facts stated?
Typical if no one agrees with your view raise the "P" demon from the tabloids to enhance your agenda. These people have stated why they oppose your view, stop using hysteria and use a rational argument to present your side.


Take it all out of context, well done. The debate was about the old saying "An eye for an eye!" So taking a life your should be taken. All i was pointing out is this is wrong to be used in any criminal justice system.
#39
I just wish that the US justice system worked across all states in it's entirety. One country, one legal system, not each state operating their own punishment.
#40
he was found guilty - he has had 17 years to prove his innocence - he still hasn't proved it - so let him 'hang' why pay to keep him in luxury in prison - i dont believe in 'rotting in jail' i think that all those on death row should be killed and yes i do believe in 'an eye for an eye' and in reply to choc1969 'I've only recently joined Amnesty International and will be signing ALL death row petitions.' i think that is disgusting because how can you say that when these people have committed crimes and deserve to pay for it somehow i think your opinion on signing 'all' petitions may change if they killed your child

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