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Using handheld mobile in car = £60-£1000 fine + 3points

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9y, 9m agoPosted 9 years, 9 months ago
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#1
good, the amount of people i see using their phone when driving, just hope they get caught
#2
Me too - this fine is not before time.
#3
I agree with this fine too. I constantly pass people using their phones when I am drive to/from work and YES it does affect their driving.
#4
I agree with this!!

When I worked in London as a temp, I would stand in Gt Portland Street, having a cigarette and the amount of people using their phones while driving was astonishing!!! :?

Lets hope they learn from this!

It was good to see all the nice cars too! (and women :whistling: )
#5
birdyboyuk
I would stand in Gt Portland Street


Which company did u work for?
#6
gary_rip
Which company did u work for?

I worked for Finers Stephens Innocent. Opposite Vallandrys
banned#7
lets hope it actually puts people off doing it!
#8
schizoboy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6399407.stm
Isn't stealth tax Brown just wonderful :)



I wouldn't describe a fine for doing something illegal as a stealth tax!
#9
[COLOR=royalblue]Won't stop me using it, hiding behind my illegal darkened tint :giggle: anyway the fine is still cheaper than getting a handsfree unit. :whistling: [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=royalblue]And another thing, where are all these cops coming from?? are they recruiting new cops just for this?? I don't think so. Long live the mobile....:thumbsup: [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#4169e1]now watch people jump up and down :w00t: :giggle: :shock: [/COLOR]
#10
Fine might be cheaper, but the 3points on your insurance ain't, bluetooth kit is cheap in comparison.

I said stealth tax cos brown is doing fines on everything but allow business's to get away with murder, Brown is as bad John Major punishing consumers #1 than punishing business's for their crimes.

The amount of eejits I see on the road driving badly due to a phone to their ear and 1 hand to drive is amazing and do not deserve to be on the road
#11
What about people who eat or drink while driving? Or a car full of kids playing up? Or music that it’s so loud the car shakes…aren’t all these a distraction? Should this be punishable with a fine/points?
#12
You can be pulled for careless driving for drinking/eating while driving.
Music dB limits I imagine is eventually on the table to help Browns coffers.

And... learn to discipline your kids :)
#13
I do agree with this

However can a one armed driver be allowed to talk and drive?
#14
The point im making is that using a mobile phone has its own punishment and its own law. Eating/drinking, loud music disruptive kids etc etc fall under careless driving. So should they not make a point of changing the law so that being caught doing any of the above is in the same class as using a hand held mobile!? Just my thoughts.
#15
Should be more. I still don't believe this is enough of a deterant against talking on and holding a mobile whilst driving. I'd think something along the lines of a 30 day ban, plus fine and points would be more appropriate.

And before anyone starts with the "I can drive my car perfectly well whilst on the phone, this is just a money making excercise for the government" I have a very good reason for being against drivers who drive whilst holding and talking on a phone.
#16
[COLOR=royalblue]I often smoke and use the mobile at the same time, 'look Mum NO HANDS' :giggle: [/COLOR]
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#17
Crazy I know someone who had their career ruined from a car accident because he was in a car with an idiot driver with zero care on the road, road safety not something to laugh about tbh.

The sooner everyone grows up about their driving habits the better.
#18
Crazy1
[COLOR=royalblue]I often smoke and use the mobile at the same time, 'look Mum NO HANDS' :giggle: [/COLOR]


Have you got a personalised number plate? "WAN K3R", perhaps?
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Originally Posted by Crazy1
I often smoke and use the mobile at the same time, 'look Mum NO HANDS' ?




BristolDeal
Have you got a personalised number plate? "WAN K3R", perhaps?


:thumbsup: :giggle:
#20
Crazy1

[COLOR=#4169e1]now watch people jump up and down :w00t: :giggle: :shock: [/COLOR]


:evil: :evil:
#21
[COLOR=royalblue]This thread should be running or merged with this one [/COLOR][COLOR=royalblue]http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51746[/COLOR][COLOR=royalblue] as both are very similar in talk.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=royalblue]Also how funny people can be when something is said that they don't like, jumping up & down like children.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=royalblue]Good driving is gained by good teaching and experience, why only last night I came across 3 accidents which were all caused by lack of concentration as they were all rear enders. Had the driver behind paid a little more attention to what was going on in front of them they would not be minus a car today. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=royalblue]10 lessons and a 2 hour test does not give you experience.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=royalblue]The only person/people that I feel sorry for are the ones that are genuinely killed or maimed by the stupidity of drivers, I say genuinely because sometimes pedestrians, cyclists and other drivers were doing something that they should not have been doing and therefore were just as guilty as the person who hit them. Like people who cross in front of a bus or cross the road 20 yards from a crossing, overtake in blind sections, experience would have told them that time would have been the better judgement, but then everyone is going to have their own take on this matter.[/COLOR]
#22
What gets people "jumping up and down" is fools bragging about having stupid and dangerous driving habits, who then have the nerve to preach to others about safe driving.
#23
BristolDeal
What gets people "jumping up and down" is fools bragging about having stupid and dangerous driving habits, who then have the nerve to preach to others about safe driving.


[COLOR=royalblue]That was a bit of a no brainer because, fools who brag about their driving habits DON'T know how to drive any differently and therefore would not be in a position to preach to others about safe driving, because they would not know.[/COLOR]
banned#24
What can the points be exchanged for?
#25
JDeal
What can the points be exchanged for?


when you get 12 points you get 2 retake ur test again :giggle:
#26
esims84
when you get 12 points you get 2 retake ur test again :giggle:

[COLOR=royalblue]What makes me laugh is when a 14 year old is caught driving and then given a 3 year ban...duh he can't drive for another 3 years anyway, so are you telling me the ban starts when he becomes of age or what?[/COLOR]
#27
ooooooh please...! lighten up guys....and give ya heads a shake :-D....why you arguing with a computer screen!
banned#28
Lulu'sMammy
ooooooh please...! lighten up guys....and give ya heads a shake :-D....why you arguing with a computer screen!


Not as threatening as people?
banned#29
perhaps the sobering thought to those who think its stealth tax( or tinted windows so to hide using the mobile!!), prior to going to work this morning on ITV this morning before 6:30 was a very nice young girl , who now has no sister due to a moron who was driving a &and half tonne truck whilst on the mobile, they showed a picture of the micra she died instantly in and its was a mess no doubt less than half the size of what it started out as, so stealth tax??? no more like trying to prevent more fatalities on the roads, I wonder if the berieved sister would agree if it was stealth tax? I think not. Oh he got 6 yrs in prison. Not much really for killing someone?

Oh and perhaps the driver of the 40tonne LGV who now has another 3 points on his licence as he was on his mobile this morning, as I issued the required fine should I have let him off? with the thought he could run into the back of one of the members or another innocent motorist and kill someone?, He may think very carefully about using the mobile, as should everyone else, its no rocket science to get a bluetooth headset or DONT use your phone when your in the car whenits on the move
#30
dog_cop
He may think very carefully about using the mobile


[COLOR=royalblue]Honestly dc...... do you think he actually learnt a lesson or is he £60 lighter for the pub tonight? unfortunately & sadly I think it is the latter. :cry: [/COLOR]
banned#31
yes as he now has 12 points, a bit sobering dont you think one speed camera, or vascar in a marked patrol vehicle, and not only no licence but no job .... so what do you think then crazy ?
#32
dog_cop
yes as he now has 12 points, a bit sobering dont you think one speed camera, or vascar in a marked patrol vehicle, and not only no licence but no job .... so what do you think then crazy ?
[COLOR=royalblue]Well dc as you put it like that, he had it coming really and he should have known better, the mobile thing has been all over the radio like a rash for the last 48 hours, so more fool him. BUT the other 9 nine points had little to do with holding a mobile :thinking: I guess DIC/DUI, running a red light and possibly, at a wild guess, paperwork not in order ;-) somewhere along the line :whistling: [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#4169e1]Of course this brings another matter to hand, solo cops using hand held radios/ telephones while driving, have you heard of any guidelines being issued recently? :thinking: [/COLOR]
banned#33
Crazy1
[COLOR=royalblue]Well dc as you put it like that, he had it coming really and he should have known better, the mobile thing has been all over the radio like a rash for the last 48 hours, so more fool him. BUT the other 9 nine points had little to do with holding a mobile :thinking: I guess DIC/DUI, running a red light and possibly, at a wild guess, paperwork not in order ;-) somewhere along the line :whistling: [/COLOR]

[COLOR=#4169e1]Of course this brings another matter to hand, solo cops using hand held radios/ telephones while driving, have you heard of any guidelines being issued recently? :thinking: [/COLOR]


all the dog vans have hands free radio sets in them :-D

oh and for your info all the other 9 points were for speeding in his truck
#34
This should put everyone off i cartainly have spotted alot more police cars about today .I just hope they get spotted the amount i see is stupid i saw someone just yesterday doing a 3 well more like 7 point turn in a busy road whilst on a mobile phone and he had a passenger she should have taken the call .If my phone rings and i'm driving i just leave it and check it later .

Plus the amount of people who cut me up on roundabout coz they dont wish to stop because on mobile .Anyone that needs them for work has bluetooth etc which is fine still a slight distraction but no more than my rabble in back of car .
#35
I dont disagree with the principles of the mobiles while driving but what peeves me just a tad is that having someone in the car - kids, parents, dog etc etc can be equally as distracting if not more so than having a conversation with someone on the phone. Yes holding the phone is dangerous as it means you only have one hand on the steering wheel but so is changing gear, picking your nose or sticking the v's up at some other moron (or not - even when justified!). perhaps we should all drive alone ... but then again that goes against the governments push for car sharing and at least chatting to someone else can help if you are feeling tired! or even when they scream cos youre a bit close to the car in front. Some examples - yes I know there are many more but i do think its a bit biased - surely there should be some balance to all this??? and dont you think that someone on the phone in a 10 ton artic should get more points than someone in a mini!??? I do!!! and ive seen enough lorry drivers on the phone.
btw - dont the police use hand held communications devices when chasing bad guys? Yes i know they have training but im an advanced driver too - surely that makes me a better driver than some????????

so what about figures for that lot??? if you are4 times as likely to crash whilst being on the phone bhow many more times are you likely to have a crash when youve got screaming kids in the back or are having or have just had a row with parents or husband or the girl/guy in the shop/petrol station/ etc etc
#36
2) What's wrong with using a mobile phone while driving?
It is dangerous because a telephone conversation (or texting) distracts from the mental concentration needed to drive safely. You put yourself and other road users in danger.
Research has shown that driver's reaction times are up to 50% slower that normal when driving and using a mobile phone. It also shows that your reaction times are 30% worse than when driving under the influence of alcohol. Other research suggests that if you are using a mobile phone while driving you are four times more likely to have a crash.
#37
dog_cop
perhaps the sobering thought to those who think its stealth tax( or tinted windows so to hide using the mobile!!), prior to going to work this morning on ITV this morning before 6:30 was a very nice young girl , who now has no sister due to a moron who was driving a &and half tonne truck whilst on the mobile, they showed a picture of the micra she died instantly in and its was a mess no doubt less than half the size of what it started out as, so stealth tax??? no more like trying to prevent more fatalities on the roads, I wonder if the berieved sister would agree if it was stealth tax? I think not. Oh he got 6 yrs in prison. Not much really for killing someone?

Oh and perhaps the driver of the 40tonne LGV who now has another 3 points on his licence as he was on his mobile this morning, as I issued the required fine should I have let him off? with the thought he could run into the back of one of the members or another innocent motorist and kill someone?, He may think very carefully about using the mobile, as should everyone else, its no rocket science to get a bluetooth headset or DONT use your phone when your in the car whenits on the move


Hi

Don't know if this has been answed in another thread but can you tell me why we needed another law please.

I would have thought driving without due care and attention or dangerous driving laws would have already covered it.

TIA
1 Like #38
we have to have another law because the nimwits who use their mobiles when driving have obviously never heard of 'driving without due care'!!!!

I personnally think £60 and 3 points is a small price to pay and *may* stop someone from causing a future fatality on our roads because they'll think twice about using it again. I'm sure no-one wants to resit their tests again either because they've been disqualified by totting for something like this?

Anyone on here been driving for more than 15 years? if so, then you'll remember the good ol' days before the mobile was even invented - we never needed to contact people when out driving then, so why now??!!!! and, people should be heeding the advice given a LONG time ago - if your phone rings, or you need desperatly to make a call/send a text while driving FIND A SAFE PLACE TO STOP AND TURN YOUR ENGINE OFF!. This can take just seconds and will save all the incovenience that goes with it.

If you want to use your phone and risk causing an accident,fine - just make sure you leave me, my family and friends out of it will you?
#39
I really can't believe anyone in there right mind could think it is ok to drive with whilst talking on a mobile phone .I would be destroyed if i was involved in a accident that injured someone or worse, even if it wasn't my fault .so how could anyone possibly justify taking that chance by doing something that can cause deaths .do people really feel it is worth the risk .nothing is worth that in my book .
#40
florrydorry
if your phone rings,...


if you have no self-control far better to just switch it OFF as you won't then be tempted to look at it to see who it is or answer it when you are stopped you can then switch it on and pick up any messages left. [or put it out of reach so you can hear you have a call and can then choose to stop and pick up the message and/or call the person back]

I sometimes think people are afraid to switch their mobile phones off.

Have there been any studies to assess the risks of changing CDs, returning a radio, lighting a fag, unwrapping a suck sweet, and the countless other things that are done during a typical journey? I guess these things must present a lower risk than holding a mobile phone and talking.

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