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banned6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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banned6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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#1
whatever you do dont let on to the real homeless that you aint "one of them" they wont be too hapy
#2
sounds like a very interesting idea, would like having your whole experience written down when you get back.
#3
you could write abook about it
#4
thing is tho-you cant "simulate" being homeless,because you know its gonna end in 2 days which can never match the despair the homeless feel as they have no end in sight.

Im not knocking you op but seriously,this wont "teach" you anything-can you simulate the circumstances that drove these people onto the streets in the first place? domestic abuse?drug addiction?family strife?
#5
If they find out you have a tenner on you, you will get your back door kicked in.
#6
i doubt you'll get any real experince in 1 day using emergency cash lol.

try spending a week starting with empty pockets.......that would be more realistic.
#7
There can't be any legal issues with this. Maybe moral ones ... but that's down to you really. You've acknowledged the most important factor - you can never really appreciate what it feels like in the lead up to becoming genuinely homeless and the pressures surrounding it. In fact, that experience is in its very nature unique to each person and their circumstances.

However, to get a real idea of what day to day life is like on the street I think you'd need more than a couple of nights. You need to emerse yourself into the experience to really understand the routines and mental battles people face when homeless. Its easy to overcome those if the end of the experience is mere hours away. For it to be close to real ... you need to do it without an end date set.

Just my opinion. Best of luck with what you decide ... be respectful, be careful and do something of value with what you learn.
1 Like #8
What a pointless gesture.
Do something of value.


hunchback
If they find out you have a tenner on you, you will get your back door kicked in.


I assume the hinges are well and truly shot tbh.
#9
Best of luck if you go for it, but make no mistake, it'll be like going to prison for the first time, without the bars.
#10
It might become ADDICTIVE...
#11
bykergrove


what would you suggest? post snide responses on an internet forum?/


If you want to do something for the weekend before going back to your job which pays tens of thousands PA, go paintballing.
banned#12
Is this in case you get your house repossessed for failing to manage your funds and mortgage?

Just wow!
#13
Mallinersha;7827275
It might become ADDICTIVE...


:lol:
#14
how about pretend to be Homeless and an Asylum Seeker......see what you can get of your local council then write a book on it.:whistling:
#15
OP, do it in summer, you may even enjoy the experience :p

I got myself locked out on wednesday and had to stay in the garden and car for a couple of hours with two kids asking "Mummy have you opened the door yet?" every few minutes. It was horrible and scary :)
#16
and you are aware...at the end of your two days homeless...your going back to your cosy place!! ;-)
#18
could try camping?
banned#19
bykergrove
get out of this thread please. plenty of other threads for you to troll


After your comments about "poor people needing to manage their money better 'cos they are the reason for the countries depression - not the bankers", I thought maybe you had grown a conscience and this was what it was all about.
#20
I think its a good idea, but think you need to do it for longer.

It would be even better if you got friends and family to sponsor you to do it, and then donate the money to homeless charities
#21
bykergrove;7827377
lol aww! you should have said "wanna fight?? "


if i get something out of this short experience i'll travel around the coast during summer in a similar fashion for longer. i may get nowhere or i may make it to a random place! i'm sure i will learn a few things in the process however.


Surely when you return to your house, you'll appreciate it much more, count your blessings etc :)

Hey you!! wanna fight?!:x:x:x

:p
banned#22
bykergrove
yeah i'm pretty strong and used to train as a boxer. aslong as i don't get stabbed i should be ok i hope. i doubt i'll get mugged since i wont have anything on me


It's your life do what you want but I might just volunteer here:-

http://manchestercathedral.org/community/booth
#23
bykergrove;7827408
I already appreciate the things i have but i'm thinking this experience will help me relate to people that have nothing and how people that do treat them.

hopefully in a good few years i might be in a position to make a real difference to some peoples lives.

and yes, with you i am always ready to fight!

:p


Respect mate :)

Lets fight!!! :-D

gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:x

:p
#24
bykergrove
yes but perhaps i'll do more for homeless people instead of giving them a pound or some fruit i didn't eat that day when i'm walking home.

surely taking some time out to understand some aspects of their experiences is better than blindly writing a cheque each year when children in need is on tv...ohh i love that terry wogan :roll:


huh i don't get how it's helping them.. .....it's helping you..for your own reasons.

it's been done done before tho..
banned#25
bykergrove
i already volunteer at various places (set up through when i was at uni) and plan to become a volunteer police officer but this is something i think will help me grow in a short sharp fashion. i'm sure i'll be ok. it's only a couple of days. some people have to do it day in day out


Do it then.

It seems like you have already decided to do it anyway.

Let us know how you get on :thumbsup:
banned#26
bykergrove
mate i've jammed with homeless people before and heard how in loads of different ways small things just spiral up really fast and before you know it someone you would perceive as "normal" has lost everything in six months.

i'm not looking to find out that homeless people are real people. i want to see how the public treat them.


I treat the homeless like human beings.

Other people I guess don't though.
banned#27
in my opinion you can't pretend to be homeless, you either homeless or not surely? anyway hope it goes well if you do it.
banned#28
bykergrove
yep i have. i was asking for advice on legality and things to look out for rather than convincing me not to do it.


Prince William has done it.

Ask centre point for advise:-

http://www.centrepoint.org.uk/contact-info
#29
I will give you 2 hours before you slink back to your mums house with your tail between your legs.

Totally pointless thing to do bordering on taking the mick out of homless people
#30
[SIZE="3"]would you ever pretend to be homeless[/SIZE]


No.

Serious life choice.
#31
bykergrove
ok you've convinced me.


i wont do anything at all.


ever.


ok...
banned 1 Like #32
I have been homeless a couple of times in my life but thankfully never had to sleep rough.
#33
What about when/if you get robbed or get a kicking from real homeless people as they think you are taking the mick out of them,will you be compensating the police/ambulance/NHS for the wasted time/resources


If you want to help then volunteer at a shelter or something

Engage brain before starting thread next time
banned#34
bykergrove
glad you managed to sort through your problems :)

repped for the link


I'm a survivor.
#35
good for you on donating to charity


it must be hard to have nothng or have had and lost it all


i give to as many big issue sellers as i can but never take a copy(it crap)

my wife would never give money to tham or begger etc as they may just buy drugs drink etc , but she will offer them soup,something from greggs or something to eat(she gets some crap from some so called homeless people)

if you think of that cold spell we just had think yourself lucky to have a home
#36
It's a shame that the trolls have invaded your thread bykergrove. Same old people.

Make sure you write up a blog with your experiences.
suspended#37
It's a good idea Byker.
I would say it makes much much more of an experience to actually physically go through something to know how it's really like.
For example, yeah we could give money to a charity, but taking part in rummaging through garbage dumps with other poor people hits home harder than watching it on TV.
I think there was a TV programme similar to this a few weeks ago about some millionaire in poverty stricken India.

And for all those trolls on here saying it's not helping. then do some reading before writing.

on a side note, any money i get from the public i will double and give to a homeless charity.


It's actually going to be beneficial to the homeless people, rather then a nuisance.
#38
I played a homeless guy in a film my mate made a few years back (cheerful Christmas number with me as a tramp who dies on Christmas eve). It was pretty weird sitting in the doorway 'in character' - I'm not sure I'd have the ba*ls to do it on my own.

At the end of fiming we had some night shots with me supposedly sleeping - the crew, all four of them, quietly scarper leaving me waiting with my eyes shut for someone to say "cut".
When I opened my eyes a car load of the most chav-like chavs you can imagine had stopped and they were getting out the car - they'd seen the crew running, thought they'd been beating on me and were coming to help me. I was a bit embarrassed explaining it was just a film - I looked such a state I'm not sure they believed me ;-)
#39
DLM
I have been homeless a couple of times in my life but thankfully never had to sleep rough.


not like some of us, having to slum it in garden sheds :whistling:
#40
I remember just before my 19th birthday had a bit of a crap boss at a holiday park and she said I had to give written notice to leave which I did in front of her then said that the note said I wanted to leave from today so got security to escort me to my caravan and watch me packing my stuff and then drove me to train station, shame this was 7pm on a bank holiday weekend so I slept rough at station for 2 nights in pouring rain, lucky I had a quilt with me but had to chuck it out as it was that soaked by the 2nd day.

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