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VB1: Need techie help with Windows please!

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banned6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
Hello,

Need some help. The windows at work have safety features to stop people accidently falling out of them.

I'm not special, so feel I can safely open said windows, and remain standing. How can I modify the windows to open further.

See images in next post. I think they are XP.
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banned6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
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banned#1
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banned#2
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PS: The bronze screws dont seem to do anything.
[mod][Moderator]#3
You are a very special person and don't let anyone tell you different
banned#4
wishihadadonkey
You are a very special person and don't let anyone tell you different


Thanks, but I do feel I can not fall out of the window if I concentrate really hard, so please, do you have a solution?
#5
Is there a switch on the door to remove the safety option, it's sometimes listed as BIOS
#6
Normally you can close them and open them a different way, allowing the window to me open more.

Could get a **** off health and safety though if you took a screw driver to it, so the window opened more.
banned#7
spritey
Normally you can close them and open them a different way, allowing the window to me open more.

Could get a **** off health and safety though if you took a screw driver to it, so the window opened more.


I work for a small firm in a business centre. You are right, but generally anything goes in this place.

These are not as complicated as opening to different lengths - see pic 2 - the metal ridge just prevents them opening further. The only screws I can see are the 2 bronze ones which dont seem to do anything (you still cant get the black plastic thing off the runners.

It's too hot.

Please help.

VB1

xoxo
[mod][Moderator]#8
vibeone
wishihadadonkey
You are a very special person and don't let anyone tell you different
Thanks, but I do feel I can not fall out of the window if I concentrate really hard, so please, do you have a solution?

If they are the same as ones on some hospital wards ( can't tell from photo ) you could unscrew the bar from the window ( not the frame ) with an allen key
#9
VB you remind me of a dog in a car on a hot day.
banned#10
wishihadadonkey
vibeone
wishihadadonkey
You are a very special person and don't let anyone tell you different
Thanks, but I do feel I can not fall out of the window if I concentrate really hard, so please, do you have a solution?


If they are the same as ones on some hospital wards ( can't tell from photo ) you could unscrew the bar from the window ( not the frame ) with an allen key


No allen key sockets on the window either....

http://image.bayimg.com/lanllaacm.jpg
banned#11
baffledsalmon
VB you remind me of a dog in a car on a hot day.


When I see your pics, I pant like one.
#12
can you take a pic of the full sides of the window while opened, both sides.
#13
I have these on my kids windows, but you can unlatch them if you want to. They automatically relatch when you close and open the window again. Are they not like that?
banned#14
rockerfella20
can you take a pic of the full sides of the window while opened, both sides.


How you mean? Does first pic not show this?

Further up there is another metal bar but I don't think this needs removing.
#15
Hi they look like the same ones as mine, on your picture there is a little rectangle metal bit under the black bit on mine you have to open the window a little bit and push these metal things in, one on each side,as you need two hands to do this i have to push it with my head. Don't open to the the full saftey range or it won't work.
#16
have you tried a brick?? wrap it in a towel to muffle the noise,but you can let plenty air in using this method
banned#17
kiraangel
Hi they look like the same ones as mine, on your picture there is a little rectangle metal bit under the black bit on mine you have to open the window a little bit and push these metal things in, one on each side,as you need two hands to do this i have to push it with my head. Don't open to the the full saftey range or it won't work.


Thanks for the comedy mental image, but I don't think they are the same. I've had a look and can find no rectangle.

Also these windows only have the safety stopper on one side of the window.

Like... they have a metal bar either side, then lower down the safety one just on one side. Annoying. I can't even work out how they put it in in the first place!
#18
From what i can see it looks like it has been fitted with restrictor arms, it will proberly be hinged on the top and the arms on the bottom stop it from moving too far out (H&S), from your pics these look like non opening ones, they will only go as far as the metal stud at the top of the slider will allow.

You could (if permitted) remove these by drilling the rivets from the top and bottom of the slider but then you would have to get the other ones on the arm by hanging out of the window or by opening the sashes, to do this you would need a cordless driver and a 4-5mm steel bit. once the rivets are removed it will just fall off so keep hold of it.

If you wish to, you could move the restrictor arm further up the window which would allow you to open the sash much further out without removing it completly.
#19
P.S the brass screws are friction screws, the harder you tighten them the harder it is to open the window and vice verca, stops them blowing about in heavy winds ect.
banned#20
Air Con?
#21
On the 2nd picture, just try removing the brass plated flat headed screws, see what that does.

Im a bit disappointed with this thread you lured me on tho, it has nothing to do with politics or the revolution.
[mod][Moderator]#22
saw through them and when health & safety pay a visit use double sided sticky tape to re-attach them
#23
barky
have you tried a brick?? wrap it in a towel to muffle the noise,but you can let plenty air in using this method


This is potentially dangerous as said wrapped brick is like to bounce of said window and hit the OP on the head.

The way to open the window wider is to cut the metal bars with a set of good quality bolt crops (quick) or use a hacksaw (slow).

This will not injure the OP (but may annoy the hell out of passers by and probably his bosses).
#24
barneydog
barky
have you tried a brick?? wrap it in a towel to muffle the noise,but you can let plenty air in using this method
This is potentially dangerous as said wrapped brick is like to bounce of said window and hit the OP on the head.The way to open the window wider is to cut the metal bars with a set of good quality bolt crops (quick) or use a hacksaw (slow).This will not injure the OP (but may annoy the hell out of passers by and probably his bosses).

I bow to your technical expertise,however,In my experience,most things can be sorted with either a brick or a hammer-saves buying an expensive toolkit.
#25
barky
barneydog
barky
have you tried a brick?? wrap it in a towel to muffle the noise,but you can let plenty air in using this method
This is potentially dangerous as said wrapped brick is like to bounce of said window and hit the OP on the head.The way to open the window wider is to cut the metal bars with a set of good quality bolt crops (quick) or use a hacksaw (slow).This will not injure the OP (but may annoy the hell out of passers by and probably his bosses).


I bow to your technical expertise,however,In my experience,most things can be sorted with either a brick or a hammer-saves buying an expensive toolkit.



I find that technique works very well when dealing with people however it is a bit more difficult when dealing with plate glass(_;)
[mod][Moderator]#26
barky
barneydog
[quote=barky]have you tried a brick?? wrap it in a towel to muffle the noise,but you can let plenty air in using this method
This is potentially dangerous as said wrapped brick is like to bounce of said window and hit the OP on the head.The way to open the window wider is to cut the metal bars with a set of good quality bolt crops (quick) or use a hacksaw (slow).This will not injure the OP (but may annoy the hell out of passers by and probably his bosses).
I bow to your technical expertise,however,In my experience,most things can be sorted with either a brick or a hammer-saves buying an expensive toolkit.[/quote


Big hardback books and 1 and 2p coins are a must in any toolkit, I've put together many pieces of flat pack furniture with just these ( oh and stilletto shoes are quite good for precision hammering )
#27
wishihadadonkey
barky
barneydog
[quote=barky]have you tried a brick?? wrap it in a towel to muffle the noise,but you can let plenty air in using this method
This is potentially dangerous as said wrapped brick is like to bounce of said window and hit the OP on the head.The way to open the window wider is to cut the metal bars with a set of good quality bolt crops (quick) or use a hacksaw (slow).This will not injure the OP (but may annoy the hell out of passers by and probably his bosses).
I bow to your technical expertise,however,In my experience,most things can be sorted with either a brick or a hammer-saves buying an expensive toolkit.[/quoteBig hardback books and 1 and 2p coins are a must in any toolkit, I've put together many pieces of flat pack furniture with just these ( oh and stilletto shoes are quite good for precision hammering )

and dont forget a butter knife for any flat head screws
[mod][Moderator]#28
barky
wishihadadonkey
barky
barneydog
[quote=barky]have you tried a brick?? wrap it in a towel to muffle the noise,but you can let plenty air in using this method
This is potentially dangerous as said wrapped brick is like to bounce of said window and hit the OP on the head.The way to open the window wider is to cut the metal bars with a set of good quality bolt crops (quick) or use a hacksaw (slow).This will not injure the OP (but may annoy the hell out of passers by and probably his bosses).
I bow to your technical expertise,however,In my experience,most things can be sorted with either a brick or a hammer-saves buying an expensive toolkit.[/quoteBig hardback books and 1 and 2p coins are a must in any toolkit, I've put together many pieces of flat pack furniture with just these ( oh and stilletto shoes are quite good for precision hammering )
and dont forget a butter knife for any flat head screws


Gosh your posh, separate knife for butter lol, thankyou will add that to my collection
#29
wishihadadonkey

Big hardback books and 1 and 2p coins are a must in any toolkit, I've put together many pieces of flat pack furniture with just these ( oh and stilletto shoes are quite good for precision hammering )


Op is not likely to have stilettos at hand. This reminds me of that apollo mission where NASA had to work with Blue Peter to fix the space ship, they had to use what was available.

So, how can we help OP with a suspender belt, pink marigolds and an inflatable sheep?
#30
and dont forget a butter knife for any flat head screws

I remember going through my dads toolbox and trying to fix my bike with it when i was a kid, he had more kitchen utensils in it than tools. sharp knife for cutting, butter knife for screwing, bread knife for sawing, big spoons for hammering picure hook nails into the wall...
#31
rockerfella20
and dont forget a butter knife for any flat head screwsI remember going through my dads toolbox and trying to fix my bike with it when i was a kid, he had more kitchen utensils in it than tools. sharp knife for cutting, butter knife for screwing, bread knife for sawing, big spoons for hammering picure hook nails into the wall...

clearly a man after my own heart-has he ever used a frying pan flipper to scrape wallpaper off?
[mod][Moderator]#32
barky
rockerfella20
and dont forget a butter knife for any flat head screwsI remember going through my dads toolbox and trying to fix my bike with it when i was a kid, he had more kitchen utensils in it than tools. sharp knife for cutting, butter knife for screwing, bread knife for sawing, big spoons for hammering picure hook nails into the wall...
clearly a man after my own heart-has he ever used a frying pan flipper to scrape wallpaper off?

ooh does that work? I've got to get some awful tiling on a roll wallpaper off my shower room, have tried a razor, but to no avail
#33
barky
rockerfella20
and dont forget a butter knife for any flat head screwsI remember going through my dads toolbox and trying to fix my bike with it when i was a kid, he had more kitchen utensils in it than tools. sharp knife for cutting, butter knife for screwing, bread knife for sawing, big spoons for hammering picure hook nails into the wall...
clearly a man after my own heart-has he ever used a frying pan flipper to scrape wallpaper off?

yeh im sure i saw that a few times over the years, ha.
banned#34
Wow you guys have really been working hard on my Windows problem!

rockerfella - you obviously know what you are on about, and what you said does stack up.

Unfortunately I was looking at a temporary solution (unscrew some screws!) rather than drilling out rivets!

Everyone else: you've made a success of the most tedius thread I've ever posted. Good job you guys!
banned#35
VIBEONE ARE YOU COMPLETELY USELESS ?, just use your brain man , the windows are internally glazed with a bang-in bead, just use a thin palette knife (or a Don Carlos) and take the beads out and then the glass unit. Remember to reglaze before home time with a nylon mallet and clean the glass ... OK ??

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