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Right, currently on BT 'Unlimited' at 2MB (due to exchange distance blah blah) but as i'm considering moving to a VM cabled area I want to know if VM are any good. Specifically speed/throttling wise. … Read More
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
Right, currently on BT 'Unlimited' at 2MB (due to exchange distance blah blah) but as i'm considering moving to a VM cabled area I want to know if VM are any good. Specifically speed/throttling wise. What times do they cut speed, threshold limits etc. BT do it between 4-midnight here, down to 512k, so need to know what virgin do and typical speeds outside those times.
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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#1
after 9 pm you can hammer it until 6am on 10/20mb, im on 50mb they dont traffic manage that woooooohooooooooo you usualy get the full speed

and wassup wid shengis . net? you upgrading it yet?
#2
It's not too bad if you know when the traffic management is, as you can usually avoid it. Even with traffic managed speeds you'll most likely be downloading faster than you currently are!
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html link to traffic management times, they only throttle it to make your internet slower, you'll never be stopped downloading or browsing. And as raptorcigs said if you are on 10/20 then you can download as much as you like at night, I usually schedule my d/ls at evening anyway as rapidshare has unlimited downloads during the same hours.

Vm aint too bad, been with them since cable and wireless days 10 or so years ago and not really had any problems, but if you do have the call centre aint the nicest of places! A tip is to use the virgin media newsgroups, you get a quick reply and can order new modems and so on through it, though any account changes you'll need to use the call centre. You should get advertised speed unlike adsl!
#3
raptorcigs
after 9 pm you can hammer it until 6am on 10/20mb, im on 50mb they dont traffic manage that woooooohooooooooo you usualy get the full speed

and wassup wid shengis . net? you upgrading it yet?


So they throttle 6am-9pm :? Bloody hell :lol:

One day I shall get back to shengis.net. I lost everything when my last host folded and I lost my backups.
#4
Shengis;5682214
So they throttle 6am-9pm :? Bloody hell :lol:

One day I shall get back to shengis.net. I lost everything when my last host folded and I lost my backups.


10am-9pm, but you get to download a certain amount during that time before you are throttled, so as long as you aren't downloading heavy files you won't be traffic managed
#5
http://i31.tinypic.com/112h4jb.jpg this is me downloading some news
or is it im not saying ahem
#6
krato
10am-9pm, but you get to download a certain amount during that time before you are throttled, so as long as you aren't downloading heavy files you won't be traffic managed


So any idea of a typical expected daily throughput (under ideal condidtions)? On 2mb BT ADSL I can manage an average 11GB.
#7
raptorcigs
http://i31.tinypic.com/112h4jb.jpg this is me downloading some news
or is it im not saying ahem


'news' :lol: Right number of letters at least, reckon the 'n' is the only correct one though :w00t: :p
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Shengis;5682259
So any idea of a typical expected daily throughput (under ideal condidtions)? On 2mb BT ADSL I can manage an average 11GB.


non stop on 10mb it'd look something like this

9am - 10am
5gig

10am - 3pm
7.5 gig

10am-9pm
10gig

9pm - 9am
56gig


Probably double the numbers for 20meg
#9
Shengis;5682266
'news' :lol: Right number of letters at least, reckon the 'n' is the only correct one though :w00t: :p

my download speed rocks
i was actualy dl ing avg free lol
banned#10
Just set your download limits on utorrent to fall just below the limit allowed between the two traffic managed periods (10am-3pm and 4pm-9pm)
#11
csiman;5682550
Just set your download limits on utorrent to fall just below the limit allowed between the two traffic managed periods (10am-3pm and 4pm-9pm)

dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig during these times then your scupperd for 24hrs
banned#12
raptorcigs
dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig during these times then your scupperd for 24hrs


yes it does, the maximum is 12 hours, but thats only on the small 2mb package, any other is 5 hours
#13
So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually give you 2.5mb after you've caned it? If so it's still better than what i've got now :lol:
banned 1 Like #14
Shengis
So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually give you 2.5mb after you've caned it? If so it's still better than what i've got now :lol:


yep, im on 20mb and get exactly 5 on the rare occasion when I get throttled
banned#15
raptorcigs;5682578
dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig during these times then your scupperd for 24hrs

thats wrong.

1. your bandwidth is throttled for 5 hours from when you hit the limit

2. The limit between 10am and 3pm is say 1500mb. Just set utorrent to only download at a max of say 80KB/s and then you wont dl more than 1125MB between those 5 hours via utorrent.

Limit totals start at zero from 10AM and are reset again at 4PM

I do this and hardly ever get throttled unless I've been using excessive bandwidth elsewhere
banned 1 Like #16
Shengis;5682686
So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually give you 2.5mb after you've caned it? If so it's still better than what i've got now :lol:

mine goes down to exactly 2.5mbps from 10mbps
banned#17
just wish I could save the utorrent download restrictions into a profile as sometimes I dont want them to apply.
#18
Sounds good then. I'm not bothered 'when' I can download, just that I can, so using limiters isn't a problem. I currently use Netlimiter as its the quickest way to adjust overall bandwidth and it keeps a log of all throughput so I can see where the problem areas are.
banned#19
Shengis;5682793
Sounds good then. I'm not bothered 'when' I can download, just that I can, so using limiters isn't a problem. I currently use Netlimiter as its the quickest way to adjust overall bandwidth and it keeps a log of all throughput so I can see where the problem areas are.

also, VM are very reliable. Probably had no more than a few hours downtime in over 10 years (apart from when I drilled through the cable myself lol)
#20
colinsunderland;5682673
yes it does, the maximum is 12 hours, but thats only on the small 2mb package, any other is 5 hours

the engineer was talking about my 20mb
banned#21
raptorcigs
the engineer was talking about my 20mb


then the engineer didn't know what he was talking about
On 20mb you will only be limited for 5 hours, and you will certainly be able to download more than 1gb
Theres a link to the policy on the first page of this thread.
#22
colinsunderland;5683110
then the engineer didn't know what he was talking about
On 20mb you will only be limited for 5 hours, and you will certainly be able to download more than 1gb
Theres a link to the policy on the first page of this thread.

in that case the program they use is at fault as i have experianced otherwise
#23
colinsunderland;5683110
then the engineer didn't know what he was talking about
On 20mb you will only be limited for 5 hours, and you will certainly be able to download more than 1gb
Theres a link to the policy on the first page of this thread.

ps company policy dont mean jack,they all abuse it to suit themselves
banned#24
raptorcigs
ps company policy dont mean jack,they all abuse it to suit themselves


Well if you download 1gb then are limited to 5mb speeds for 24 hours I suggest you call customer relations and get a reason why as that shouldn't happen. In fact I would suggest you have a line fault rather than them having a fault with their software as you are the only person I've seen with this problem.

Its more likely to be the engineer was an install tech and didn't know how to fix the fault so made some rubbish up!
banned#25
colinsunderland;5683190
Well if you download 1gb then are limited to 5mb speeds for 24 hours I suggest you call customer relations and get a reason why as that shouldn't happen. In fact I would suggest you have a line fault rather than them having a fault with their software as you are the only person I've seen with this problem.

Its more likely to be the engineer was an install tech and didn't know how to fix the fault so made some rubbish up!

+1 :thumbsup:
#26
why do they lie?
banned#27
raptorcigs;5683590
why do they lie?

maybe just misinformed or guessing.
banned#28
raptorcigs
why do they lie?


cos they couldn't be bothered to do their job properly? No idea, but whats for sure is that the information he gave you was wrong
#29
Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, because leaving it running at full speed and hitting the traffic managed speed you can still download more than what you would keeping your speeds low to avoid hitting speed management
#30
krato
Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, because leaving it running at full speed and hitting the traffic managed speed you can still download more than what you would keeping your speeds low to avoid hitting speed management


That's how I saw it, then shut down your downloads completely till session end so you still get high speed web access, or carry on downloading at slower speed.

Any idea how long it takes to get VM connected up after you order it?
banned#31
krato;5715277
Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, because leaving it running at full speed and hitting the traffic managed speed you can still download more than what you would keeping your speeds low to avoid hitting speed management

not quite true

if I dl 1400mb between 4-9pm then I have dl'd 1400mb and can then go back to full speed at 9pm

if I say dl 1500mb which takes 3 hours between 4-7pm I then get hit with only 25% speeds for 5 hours (7pm till midnight).

not a lot in it I reckon.

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