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ok, so i am very good with pc and cant seem to what i think is a virus from crashing my system. i have searched through everything to find it to no avail. the problems are random services crashing re… Read More
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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
ok, so i am very good with pc and cant seem to what i think is a virus from crashing my system. i have searched through everything to find it to no avail. the problems are random services crashing resulting in vital services crashing and vista BSOD. this problem stays even after a COMPLEATE DEEP format! no antivirus can get it no spyware remover nothing! this is my last resort does anybody out their know about this.... i am currently patching it up by starting the services as soon as they crash again with windows service managed but this isnt ideal!.... please people do you have some idea?
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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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banned#1
lol need an intelligent person..that's narrowed yer field down a bit mate :whistling: :-D
#2
Especially when they cannot even spell "symptoms", "intelligent" "complete" and "spyware" themselves.

How would they recognise one !
#3
lol sorry gotta type very fast before it crashes again
#4
I think that the problem you have is called "Vista".
I use it as well, and have many problems with it crashing. :-(

Internet explorer shuts down, Windows Explorer the same.

Think of it like you would a pretty woman, they look nice, but sometimes you have to make a few sacrifices for those looks. :)
1 Like #5
if you have done a deep format than it sounds like you may have some bootsector virus [only a supposition as i have never had sch prob's]? are you sure you havent got some other prob - e.g. a faulty / dodgy piece of hardware whic is causing the problem, or maybe a device connected which is cuasing the problems [e.g. usb memory stick or some other rogue peripheral?]
#6
[and evidently my typing is truly that bad too]
#7
nope everything the same as my other computer.... yet if i put in the hard drive in the other same problems.... hence i reckon its on the hardrive it self.... its now not letting me open much its saying 'corrupt file' run chkdsk (which didnt help - just said everything was ok). cant install anything beacuse once again it crashes or corrupts it think if no one know the answer i will just have to cut my losses and throw out the hard drive and start again
#8
are you sure its not hardware related?
#9
Try vista sp1..they have done plenty of updates
#10
tried SP1 in vague hope it would stop whatever is doing it..... also tried re-formating into a 32-bit OS (normally use 64) and problem comes back after about 4 restarts yet if i put on xp it doesnt happen! only vista!
banned#11
sounds like you have a hardware fault to me. try setting the bios back to its default too.

and get a spell checker ;)
1 Like #12
Have you run a memory test and a deep hard drive test? Have you tried a different OS?

Sounds like a hardware problem, inadequate power or overheating is just as likely as a BS virus to me... As was mentioned above - are all USB devices disconnected (including wireless adapters, mouse etc) as faulty/intermittent USB devices can cause a BSOD....
#13
yep everything disconnected even my sli

cant be loss of power due to the fact that it only happens on one hard drive and i have a 1,000WATT PSU in this rig. currently using a serial mouse and keyboard moniter and thats it.... on board VGA no dvd drive 1GB ram etc etc etc

yet if i put in the HDD from the other comp in this one it works fine no erros no corruption etc so i reckon its either a virus or vista does something that xp doesnt (as this computer doesnt crash with xp on)

and before people say i cant use xp as i want DX10 otherwise their is no real point having my 2 X 8800 in the system now is there!

and yes run memory and HDD test with no avail.

however just one min ago it has just changed file security ID with chkdsk for somerason (22,000 of em!) yet still crashing so i reckon its a virus
banned#14
Have you tried booting into safe mode to see if it resolves any stability issues yet ?
#15
nope still comes up however it does take allot longer (safemode).... have just found out that my BIOS has BT so i have now disabled this (via the pin so as it cant be automaticly enabled etc) am now re-running every virus check spyware and chkdsk to see if this has fixed it's stablity issues though i highly doubt it
1 Like #16
guilbert53
Especially when they cannot even spell "symptoms", "intelligent" "complete" and "spyware" themselves.

How would they recognise one !


csiman
sounds like you have a hardware fault to me. try setting the bios back to its default too.

and get a spell checker ;)



Watch out here comes the

http://morningglory2.files.wordpress.com/2006/03/grammarpolice.jpg
#17
lol i agree people know what you mean might just have to have that as my display poc *i mean pic* ;-)
#18
I'd personally recommend that you reinstall the o/s, this would be the best way to rule out possible software or hardware issues. You are only possibly prolonging the inevitable. If you have carried out all the tests that you have stated then I would not waste anymore time on it.
banned#19
kemo;2131538
Watch out here comes the

http://morningglory2.files.wordpress.com/2006/03/grammarpolice.jpg

Watch out! Here comes the people with the lowest form of wit with no constructive advice for the OP ;-)
banned#20
kemo;2131586
I'd personally recommend that you reinstall the o/s, this would be the best way to rule out possible software or hardware issues. You are only possibly prolonging the inevitable. If you have carried out all the tests that you have stated then I would not waste anymore time on it.

try actually reading the original post. he has re-installed the O/S :whistling:
banned#21
I trust your vista cd and key are legitimate..........
#22
i think i am just gonna buy a new HDD and then flog the old one on ebay to someone ;-)
#23
csiman
I trust your vista cd and key are legitimate..........


yeps all a-ok though i havent put in the code for 32bit as i dontt want it locked to it if the pc is dieing! so its on 30day trial but that wont make any difference
#24
What type of system do you have m8, is it a self build?
#25
thesaint
I think that the problem you have is called "Vista".
I use it as well, and have many problems with it crashing. :-(

Internet explorer shuts down, Windows Explorer the same.

Think of it like you would a pretty woman, they look nice, but sometimes you have to make a few sacrifices for those looks. :)


I completely disagree with this, if you are having problems with Vista crashing then there is a problem with your system somewhere and you should be looking for the cause. Crashing is certainly not an inherent part of Vista which has to be accepted if the OS is to be used, my Vista systems all run 100% stable and if they were crashing at all I would find the cause and stop it crashing. The main problem I've found while testing Vista on lower powered system is that Explorer particularly does not cope well with lower amounts of ram and cane become unstable after the system has been running for a while.

JOhn
#26
kemo
What type of system do you have m8, is it a self build?


self built of course!!! no sensible person pays for a pc world one etc.... rip off!!!


Johnmcl7
I completely disagree with this, if you are having problems with Vista crashing then there is a problem with your system somewhere and you should be looking for the cause. Crashing is certainly not an inherent part of Vista which has to be accepted if the OS is to be used, my Vista systems all run 100% stable and if they were crashing at all I would find the cause and stop it crashing. The main problem I've found while testing Vista on lower powered system is that Explorer particularly does not cope well with lower amounts of ram and cane become unstable after the system has been running for a while.

JOhn



just as a quick referance to everyone my noraml specs for when it crashes is

quad core 2.4GHz
8GB DDR2 ram
1.5TB HDD (1 X 1TB 1 X 500GB)
nvidia 8800 1GB X2 (sli)
blu-ray burner + HD-DVD reader
DVD recorder
media center remote
Dual freeview tuner
logitech wireless keyboard and mouse
1000WATT PSU
VISTA ultimate 46bit

this is the same set up as i have downstairs and it still is working fine with no problems like the identicle one upstairs!!!
#27
[quote=jackt010;2131771]
quad core 2.4GHz
8GB DDR2 ram
1.5TB HDD (1 X 1TB 1 X 500GB)
nvidia 8800 1GB X2 (sli)
blu-ray burner + HD-DVD reader
DVD recorder
media center remote
Dual freeview tuner
logitech wireless keyboard and mouse
1000WATT PSU
VISTA ultimate 46bit
quote]
OK - you have so much hardware installed that any one thing could be causing the crashes. Try the following steps:
1. Remove 4gb of RAM and try running. If unstable, replace the 4Gb of RAM with the 4Gb you previously took out and try again.
2. Remove 1 of the graphics cards. If unstable, replace the graphics card with the other one.
3. Remove the tuner card and try running.
4. Replace the power supply.
5. If you have any overclock - move back to stock speeds.
It seems most likely that you have a hardware issue and not a Virus or software issue.
1 Like #28
Ok can't tell you what is is but here's what it isnt:

It is not:

a) A Virus - It is "exceptionally" rare to pick up a boot sector virus, especially one that withstand an fdisk and re-install of the OS

2) A Hardware Issue - Faulty hardware doesn't cause services to stop:

It could be:

1) Faulty hardware drivers - Try disabling one piece at a time to see if any stop the problem happening.

Also use your event viewer to see what errors are being generated then re-search them on [url]www.eventid.net[/url] (to access event viewer START > RUN > EVENTVWR > OK)
#29
Lowtrawler;2131868
[quote=jackt010]
quad core 2.4GHz
8GB DDR2 ram
1.5TB HDD (1 X 1TB 1 X 500GB)
nvidia 8800 1GB X2 (sli)
blu-ray burner + HD-DVD reader
DVD recorder
media center remote
Dual freeview tuner
logitech wireless keyboard and mouse
1000WATT PSU
VISTA ultimate 46bit
quote]
OK - you have so much hardware installed that any one thing could be causing the crashes. Try the following steps:
1. Remove 4gb of RAM and try running. If unstable, replace the 4Gb of RAM with the 4Gb you previously took out and try again.
2. Remove 1 of the graphics cards. If unstable, replace the graphics card with the other one.
3. Remove the tuner card and try running.
4. Replace the power supply.
5. If you have any overclock - move back to stock speeds.
It seems most likely that you have a hardware issue and not a Virus or software issue.


nothing to do with hardware m8! it all checks out before hand

dmccabe
Ok can't tell you what is is but here's what it isnt:

It is not:

a) A Virus - It is "exceptionally" rare to pick up a boot sector virus, especially one that withstand an fdisk and re-install of the OS

2) A Hardware Issue - Faulty hardware doesn't cause services to stop:

It could be:

1) Faulty hardware drivers - Try disabling one piece at a time to see if any stop the problem happening.

Also use your event viewer to see what errors are being generated then re-search them on [url]www.eventid.net[/url] (to access event viewer START > RUN > EVENTVWR > OK)


hmmm i think drivers are the most likly ..... the only driver that has been updated recently is the nvidia one but surely if i went back to the onboard vga (with nvidia drivers removed) they wouldnt be causing a prob would they? however saying that i am now using vista and it appears to be working at the moment but when it goes to shut down it bsods which aint a HUGE problem might just leave it there at the moment
#30
what is the BSOD message? you usually get a clue as to the cause from this
#31
The eventlogs should capture the BSOD error (which by default just flashes up and disappears in Vista/XP) as well as additional information as to what caused it, usually a hardware minidump.

John
#32
sorted it out.... replaced the HDD just cut my losses


EDIT: rep added to some of the people who helped me! thanks for everything!

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