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Can someone tell me what the rules are with MOT testing if your car fails. Can you take your car away to have the work done and return to get the certificate? My car just failed because of corrosi… Read More
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
Can someone tell me what the rules are with MOT testing if your car fails. Can you take your car away to have the work done and return to get the certificate?

My car just failed because of corrosion and faulty headlight and I think they are pulling a fast one considering I had a major service with them last month and these were not picked up!

Any info appreciated, looking on VOSA website but cant find it :(
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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banned#1
yes on a trailer you cannot drive on the road if its failed its mot
#2
a full sevice does not normally including checking as you would on a mot, so they probably didnt know about it.
#3
U can still drive the car only back home tho. U can drive to have ur car repaired but book an appotment at the garage so if u do get pulled over they can ring the garage and confirm u are driving it to get repaired.

Go to another MOT guy and ask him if hes got a spare 2 mins to check ur car on what it failed on and ask him if he would fail it.

My car failed for a crack in the windscreen, took it to another MOT garage and said they would pass it cos its not in the " Swept Area" of the window wipers.

Theres always a local VOSA garage near you if u feel its failed and shouldnt have.
banned#4
demolisher;4641482
U can still drive the car only back home tho. U can drive to have ur car repaired but book an appotment at the garage so if u do get pulled over they can ring the garage and confirm u are driving it to get repaired.

Go to another MOT guy and ask him if hes got a spare 2 mins to check ur car on what it failed on and ask him if he would fail it.

My car failed for a crack in the windscreen, took it to another MOT garage and said they would pass it cos its not in the " Swept Area" of the window wipers.

Theres always a local VOSA garage near you if u feel its failed and shouldnt have.

if the car has failed the Mot you cannot drive it on the road.. there again what do I know :roll:
#5
dog_cop
if the car has failed the Mot you cannot drive it on the road.. there again what do I know :roll:


hows he suppose to get his car repaired and got for the MOT retest ;-)
#6
i thought as long as it is booked in a garage for repairs you could drive it there
banned#7
demolisher;4641525
hows he suppose to get his car repaired and got for the MOT retest ;-)

its my understanding he took it to the garage and it failed the mot so that means no mot to drive on the road home thats where the trailer comes in .. .. so get the car taken to another garage and get the work done , once the work has been done you book an appointment to have it re tested and your allowed the trip back to the testing station ;-)..
#8
if your mot has not run out and you take your car for a mot before the old one runs out and it fails you can still drive it as you are covered up until your old mot runs out, i normally get mine done about a month before hand, that way if there are any problems i have time to get the work done.
#9
You can drive it home if it fails a MOT and you have a current MOT still valid.
#10
Can my vehicle be driven on a public highway after failing a pre-test?

Cars and motorcycles MUST normally pass an MOT test three years from the date of the first registration and every year after that. You MUST NOT drive a vehicle without an MOT certificate, when it should have one. Driving an unroadworthy vehicle may invalidate your insurance. Exceptionally, you may drive to a pre-arranged test appointment or to a garage for repairs required for the test.
#11
Yes the MOT runs out on the 21st so surely I can still drive it on the road until then?
#12
you will be fine ! ( & thats from an ex police officer )
#13
With the advent of electronic tests, the failure will be registered with V.O.S.A so the feds will know that the car is deemed un-roadworthy. They may let it slide, but the car is not supposed to be on the road.

The failure "trumps" the previously valid M.O.T.
#14
wickedteen
a full sevice does not normally including checking as you would on a mot, so they probably didnt know about it.


Well the service schedule said they check external lights and their operation. Its now failed MOT because they cant adjust headlight, apparently whole headlight needs replacing. Im just annoyed surely they would have tried to adjust headlight when it was serviced and so picked this up.

Basically I want to take car away and replace headlight myself if poss, and save on ridiculously overflated price for a new one no doubt. Will I have to pay for a retest if I do this. VOSA site has no info on this.

thesaint
With the advent of electronic tests, the failure will be registered with V.O.S.A so the feds will know that the car is deemed un-roadworthy. They may let it slide, but the car is not supposed to be on the road.

The failure "trumps" the previously valid M.O.T.


I just checked VOSA and the test fail is not on there yet :P Doesn't answer my question on re-test fees tho if I do the work myself?
banned#15
kassy2005;4641675
you will be fine ! ( & thats from an ex police officer )

you wont ( from a serving :p)
#16
lol my source is gonna get a kick up the butt then :)
#17
thesaint
With the advent of electronic tests, the failure will be registered with V.O.S.A so the feds will know that the car is deemed un-roadworthy. They may let it slide, but the car is not supposed to be on the road.

The failure "trumps" the previously valid M.O.T.


It pains me to say but the saint is spot on.

mikeyp
Well the service schedule said they check external lights and their operation. Its now failed MOT because they cant adjust headlight, apparently whole headlight needs replacing. Im just annoyed surely they would have tried to adjust headlight when it was serviced and so picked this up.

Basically I want to take car away and replace headlight myself if poss, and save on ridiculously overflated price for a new one no doubt. Will I have to pay for a retest if I do this. VOSA site has no info on this.



I just checked VOSA and the test fail is not on there yet :P Doesn't answer my question on re-test fees tho if I do the work myself?


A free retest is at the discretion of the garage. However most do.
banned#18
kassy2005;4641740
lol my source is gonna get a kick up the butt then :)

ex black rat .. dont miss a trick :thumbsup:
#19
I have just had a car fail its mot and have the failure here, para 2 says

It is generally an offence to use on a public road a vehicle of testable age, that does not have a current test certificate, except when:
Taking it to a test station for a test BOOKED IN ADVANCE
Bringing it away from a test station after it has failed the test to a place of repair.
Taking it to or bringing it away from a place where by PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENT reapirs are to be, or have been, made to remedy the defects on which the vehicle has failed.


So in short yes you can drive it from the test station to another garage as long as you have a booking at the other garage to make remedial repairs. Or to take it home to repair yourself, I would say that if you take it home you must keep it off road though.

It is up to the test station if by removing the car you have to pay for a full retest though, so they could cahrge another MOT charge.
#20
mikeyp
Well the service schedule said they check external lights and their operation. Its now failed MOT because they cant adjust headlight, apparently whole headlight needs replacing. Im just annoyed surely they would have tried to adjust headlight when it was serviced and so picked this up.


Then you have a right to complain, but I am not sure what you can do, as it just meant you would have had to replace it then instead of now.

They didn't do their job properly, but you are not in a worse financial position because of it.

In future, find a garage that would do a check to see what the car would fail on if it were to go in for an M.O.T. This way, the fail would not be registered. The car would still be un-roadworthy, but it would not be registered.
#21
kidcat



So in short yes you can drive it from the test station to another garage as long as you have a booking at the other garage to make remedial repairs


this is what i believe also :)
banned#22
my garage offers pre mot inspection free of charge
banned#23
kassy2005;4641817
this is what i believe also :)

to another garage on appointment but not home or doing the weekly shop or popping to the coast for the weekend
#24
dog_cop
ex black rat .. dont miss a trick :thumbsup:


damn thats so true.. was only an SC myself for 8 years then i got pregnant :oops:
#25
dog_cop
to another garage on appointment but not home or doing the weekly shop or popping to the coast for the weekend


yes to a pre booked appointment is what i understood was acceptable
#26
kidcat
I have just had a car fail its mot and have the failure here, para 2 says

It is generally an offence to use on a public road a vehicle of testable age, that does not have a current test certificate, except when:
Taking it to a test station for a test BOOKED IN ADVANCE
Bringing it away from a test station after it has failed the test to a place of repair.
Taking it to or bringing it away from a place where by PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENT reapirs are to be, or have been, made to remedy the defects on which the vehicle has failed.


So in short yes you can drive it from the test station to another garage as long as you have a booking at the other garage to make remedial repairs. Or to take it home to repair yourself, I would say that if you take it home you must keep it off road though.

It is up to the test station if by removing the car you have to pay for a full retest though, so they could cahrge another MOT charge.


The MOT was only £35 so I'm not too bothered by that. I have a feeling they will quote my near £100 for a new headlamp though when they are £30 on ebay. So if thats the case I'm not having the work done there. Also to fail my car on corrosion when it only had "slight corrosion" last year is ridiculous. Am thinking of doing what I can myself and getting it retested somewhere else.

I await their quote on Monday b4 I decide what to do. Just abit annoyed having just spent so much money on the damn thing last month.
#27
You Can Still Drive It Till The Mot Runs Out, And If It Fails You Can Take It To A Garage By Driving It, Or Home For Self Repair, As Long As The Tax Is Valid You Can Still Park It On The Road, But The Only Driving You Can Do Is To Place Of The Repair And Back To The Mot Centre For Retest, If You Take It Back Within 7 Days The Retest Is Free, But Dont Forget To Book It In
#28
tinkerbellsteve
You Can Still Drive It Till The Mot Runs Out, And If It Fails You Can Take It To A Garage By Driving It, Or Home For Self Repair, As Long As The Tax Is Valid You Can Still Park It On The Road, But The Only Driving You Can Do Is To Place Of The Repair And Back To The Mot Centre For Retest, If You Take It Back Within 7 Days The Retest Is Free, But Dont Forget To Book It In


Thanks so much thats what I wanted to know more than anything, the VOSA rules on how long I can take it away for without having to pay retest fee.

All info appreciated peeps, dont know why VOSA cant make this clear on their website about test fails.

Also found this site which is useful and does state the original MOT certificate is stil valid:

http://www.motester.co.uk/mot-retest.html
#29
mikeyp
Thanks so much thats what I wanted to know more than anything, the VOSA rules on how long I can take it away for without having to pay retest fee.

All info appreciated peeps, dont know why VOSA cant make this clear on their website about test fails.

Also found this site which is useful and does state the original MOT certificate is stil valid:

http://www.motester.co.uk/mot-retest.html


Just remember though that if it fails on a bald tyre you can still be prosecuted for that, as an example, as the cars not 'roadworthy' old MOT or not ;-)
#30
Shengis
Just remember though that if it fails on a bald tyre you can still be prosecuted for that, as an example, as the cars not 'roadworthy' old MOT or not ;-)


Yes think that one involves common sense :thumbsup:
#31
mikeyp
Yes think that one involves common sense :thumbsup:


Ah but if MOT's involved common sense they would check the tightness/presence of wheelnuts during the test. Obviously though a cracked number plate is more of a safety issue :lol:
#32
hello sorry its late, but the garage should have told you about the time date for the mot, mine reminds me every time that i have 7 days to get it back or i have to pay again, ps go to a scrapyard most headlights are about £10-£20 each, usually its only a couple of screws holding it on and the wires to the bulb, when you want to test it do it at night with someone twenty five paces down the road, turn on the lights and adjust them by turning the large screws until they arn't getting dazzled ( its a fail if its above a certain level! ) as for the corrosion if its not serious, scrub it with a wire brush and use touch up paint, if its serious rust replace the part. which can also be got from the same scrapyard, hope it passes next time.
#33
tinkerbellsteve
when you want to test it do it at night with someone twenty five paces down the road, turn on the lights and adjust them by turning the large screws until they arn't getting dazzled ( its a fail if its above a certain level! ) .


The best way is to have the car near a wall, put light on and mark on wall the height, then change light and adjust to the mark on the wall :thumbsup:
#34
tinkerbellsteve
hello sorry its late, but the garage should have told you about the time date for the mot, mine reminds me every time that i have 7 days to get it back or i have to pay again, ps go to a scrapyard most headlights are about £10-£20 each, usually its only a couple of screws holding it on and the wires to the bulb, when you want to test it do it at night with someone twenty five paces down the road, turn on the lights and adjust them by turning the large screws until they arn't getting dazzled ( its a fail if its above a certain level! ) as for the corrosion if its not serious, scrub it with a wire brush and use touch up paint, if its serious rust replace the part. which can also be got from the same scrapyard, hope it passes next time.


Thanks for the info. Apparently some of the rust is underneath the car and if its within 30cm from a major part e.g. breaks then its an MOT fail. Also fails on sharp edges, theres a patch on passenger side so may do what you said. Picking the car up today, will be doing the headlight myself and have to get under the car to check the rest. It also failed on a rear suspension coil fracture, I have no option with this one but to have it replaced (altho they recommend replacing both - no chance).

EDIT: Took the car to another garage and the managed to adjust the faulty headlight, so no need to replace.

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