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I know this as been mentioned before but I really think it would be a good idea to make people explain why they are voting cold. having seen a lot of cold deals lately it made me wonder why people are… Read More
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4m, 3w agoPosted 4 months, 3 weeks ago
I know this as been mentioned before but I really think it would be a good idea to make people explain why they are voting cold. having seen a lot of cold deals lately it made me wonder why people are voting cold. I think if people are submitting what they think is a good deal and it goes cold it would be good to know if it's cheaper somewhere else
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4m, 3w agoPosted 4 months, 3 weeks ago
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3 Likes #1
can i vote this thread cold.

if it goes cold who cares .its just a colour on an app or website if i post a deal it goes cold i dont give a dam .just because its cold dont mean its a bad deal all the time.

do you know how many trolls live here
1 Like #2
If youre binding yourself to this forum to get as many facebook likes for your picture of your makeup then your in for a surprise.
Forget the number its all about contribution. Trolls are on the doorstep everyday with their sad little games. Best thing is to just get on with life rather than worry if you get a red or a blue. The only time that should matter is if your deciding to go into the matrix or not.
2 Likes #3
Some bad deals go hot, some good deals go cold, that's life.

Force people to comment if they vote cold and many won't bother, so perhaps all deals will go hot, or should they also comment to explain why a deal is hot? I'd argue it would be harder to find the best deals if that was the case as the majority won't vote any longer..
banned#4
It will never happen.
2 Likes #5
If that happened the 'membership' and activity on this site would die. People have any number of reasons to vote cold - many of them aren't worth thinking about. Just let sleeping dogs lie.
1 Like #6
think it's just best to judge the deal yourself. If you feel it's right then buy it. It can be rather annoying though but can't see it changing.
2 Likes #7
Worst thing to do is moan about cold votes. In fact I just vote cold on deals where this occurs no matter how good the deal is
banned 3 Likes #8
benjammin316
Worst thing to do is moan about cold votes. In fact I just vote cold on deals where this occurs no matter how good the deal is
Rascal.
1 Like #9
It is Christmas just enjoy the snow :D
#10
Some of the best deals I've had where cold and some of the worst deals ive seen have been hot.. don't worry about it..

I vote cold on stuff I dislike and annoying headings.
[mod] 4 Likes #11
I won't move this to feedback because this is something I think is good for community discussion and fine in Misc (for now!).

If we believe someone is being malicious with their voting or voting unfairly (not commenting and having what we perceive to be an unfair voting ratio) then we'll get in touch with them. Making members comment before voting would more than likely lead to retaliatory voting or bad feeling amongst members. On the whole (of course there will be exceptions) I think the system works well.
1 Like #12
who cares if its hot or cold.. as long as people can see it.. thats the main thing.

I dont know if others do this but I use the voting system to show where im upto on the deals.. :) I dont care if its hot or cold.. 99% of the time it gets a hot vote. :)

Edited By: Henlans on Dec 25, 2016 21:40
#13
Twas ever thus
#14
who cares? do u get money, medals or a big sticker from your mammy if you post an epic hot deal?
1 Like #15
scaryvonne

it would be good to know if it's cheaper somewhere else
That isn't always the case, for example lets say No Mans Sky is £19.95 on a website and you post it, and it goes cold, doesn't mean it isn't the cheapest, it isn't a case of something being cheaper elsewhere, it's if people think it's a good deal
banned#16
magicjay1986
I won't move this to feedback because this is something I think is good for community discussion and fine in Misc (for now!).
If we believe someone is being malicious with their voting or voting unfairly (not commenting and having what we perceive to be an unfair voting ratio) then we'll get in touch with them. Making members comment before voting would more than likely lead to retaliatory voting or bad feeling amongst members. On the whole (of course there will be exceptions) I think the system works well.

A bit off topic.

Are you assigned to deal with feedback or just choose to off your own back? I somtimes feel that you aren't the correct person who should be dealing with queries, not because you aren't capable but because I don't think you have the correct knowledgebase as such. I know there are questions you can answer but I also know the majority of questions you can't.

I feel by you taking that role whether that being voluntarily or not, you assume a position of being open to a lot of stick you perhaps shouldn't get.

I don't know how you work it, but I certainly know there are development members of the site with accounts and I feel there should be a dedicated account to deal with all feedback realted issues (that mods can only flag).

It just seems you are sometimes in the firing line for things out of your control.

Just my thoughts.
[mod]#17
MrScotchBonnet
magicjay1986
I won't move this to feedback because this is something I think is good for community discussion and fine in Misc (for now!).
If we believe someone is being malicious with their voting or voting unfairly (not commenting and having what we perceive to be an unfair voting ratio) then we'll get in touch with them. Making members comment before voting would more than likely lead to retaliatory voting or bad feeling amongst members. On the whole (of course there will be exceptions) I think the system works well.
A bit off topic.
Are you assigned to deal with feedback or just choose to off your own back? I somtimes feel that you aren't the correct person who should be dealing with queries, not because you aren't capable but because I don't think you have the correct knowledgebase as such. I know there are questions you can answer but I also know the majority of questions you can't.
I feel by you taking that role whether that being voluntarily or not, you assume a position of being open to a lot of stick you perhaps shouldn't get.
I don't know how you work it, but I certainly know there are development members of the site with accounts and I feel there should be a dedicated account to deal with all feedback realted issues (that mods can only flag).
It just seems you are sometimes in the firing line for things out of your control.
Just my thoughts.

All issues raised via the feedback section (and others sections) will be filtered through to the correct team by me. So bugs (once replicated usually) will be raised for review and a fix (or feedback as to why something is happening if by design). I'm not personally responsible for fixing bugs or implementing site changes so raised issues cannot be resolved by me. The same goes for all the forum team.

I appreciate some stuff will still be outstanding or taking a while but it has not been forgotten. I can assure you though, all issues/bugs/requests will be considered and then referred to the development/management team.
banned#18
magicjay1986
MrScotchBonnet
magicjay1986
I won't move this to feedback because this is something I think is good for community discussion and fine in Misc (for now!).
If we believe someone is being malicious with their voting or voting unfairly (not commenting and having what we perceive to be an unfair voting ratio) then we'll get in touch with them. Making members comment before voting would more than likely lead to retaliatory voting or bad feeling amongst members. On the whole (of course there will be exceptions) I think the system works well.
A bit off topic.
Are you assigned to deal with feedback or just choose to off your own back? I somtimes feel that you aren't the correct person who should be dealing with queries, not because you aren't capable but because I don't think you have the correct knowledgebase as such. I know there are questions you can answer but I also know the majority of questions you can't.
I feel by you taking that role whether that being voluntarily or not, you assume a position of being open to a lot of stick you perhaps shouldn't get.
I don't know how you work it, but I certainly know there are development members of the site with accounts and I feel there should be a dedicated account to deal with all feedback realted issues (that mods can only flag).
It just seems you are sometimes in the firing line for things out of your control.
Just my thoughts.
All issues raised via the feedback section (and others sections) will be filtered through to the correct team by me. So bugs (once replicated usually) will be raised for review and a fix (or feedback as to why something is happening if by design). I'm not personally responsible for fixing bugs or implementing site changes so raised issues cannot be resolved by me. The same goes for all the forum team.
I appreciate some stuff will still be outstanding or taking a while but it has not been forgotten. I can assure you though, all issues/bugs/requests will be considered and then referred to the development/management team.

I know that. I just think if the development team have an account and when they do very very rarely do update threads, I would just like them to be a little more active. It takes a bit of pressure off the guys on the frontline so to speak and lets members see issues are being taken seiously.
[mod] 1 Like #19
MrScotchBonnet
magicjay1986
MrScotchBonnet
magicjay1986
I won't move this to feedback because this is something I think is good for community discussion and fine in Misc (for now!).
If we believe someone is being malicious with their voting or voting unfairly (not commenting and having what we perceive to be an unfair voting ratio) then we'll get in touch with them. Making members comment before voting would more than likely lead to retaliatory voting or bad feeling amongst members. On the whole (of course there will be exceptions) I think the system works well.
A bit off topic.
Are you assigned to deal with feedback or just choose to off your own back? I somtimes feel that you aren't the correct person who should be dealing with queries, not because you aren't capable but because I don't think you have the correct knowledgebase as such. I know there are questions you can answer but I also know the majority of questions you can't.
I feel by you taking that role whether that being voluntarily or not, you assume a position of being open to a lot of stick you perhaps shouldn't get.
I don't know how you work it, but I certainly know there are development members of the site with accounts and I feel there should be a dedicated account to deal with all feedback realted issues (that mods can only flag).
It just seems you are sometimes in the firing line for things out of your control.
Just my thoughts.
All issues raised via the feedback section (and others sections) will be filtered through to the correct team by me. So bugs (once replicated usually) will be raised for review and a fix (or feedback as to why something is happening if by design). I'm not personally responsible for fixing bugs or implementing site changes so raised issues cannot be resolved by me. The same goes for all the forum team.
I appreciate some stuff will still be outstanding or taking a while but it has not been forgotten. I can assure you though, all issues/bugs/requests will be considered and then referred to the development/management team.
I know that. I just think if the development team have an account and when they do very very rarely do update threads, I would just like them to be a little more active. It takes a bit of pressure off the guys on the frontline so to speak and lets members see issues are being taken seiously.

They aren't on HUKD as much as you think they are and certainly not ignoring issues. There is a process in place and its along the lines of what i've mentioned above.

The forum team though will always be about making sure content being posted is fine and ensuring all the members are complying with the Code of Conduct.

It is a job so not looking for credit but we've a great team and they do work hard to make sure things run as smoothly as possible across ALL parts of HUKD (and other tasks). However, always happy to receive feedback about how and where we can improve.

....the more I type the more i'm tempted to move this to Feedback X)
#20
If I were HUKD, I would seriously consider exploiting this sense of entitlement and clamour for heat in the deals section and positive votes in the ask section. Introduce a feature whereby an OP can topup their deal by say 100 degrees for £1 and buy an upvote for their answer in Ask for 10p.
[mod] 3 Likes #21
tempt
If I were HUKD, I would seriously consider exploiting this sense of entitlement and clamour for heat in the deals section and positive votes in the ask section. Introduce a feature whereby an OP can topup their deal by say 100 degrees for £1 and buy an upvote for their answer in Ask for 10p.

£10 for 100° and we'll talk.
1 Like #22
magicjay1986
tempt
If I were HUKD, I would seriously consider exploiting this sense of entitlement and clamour for heat in the deals section and positive votes in the ask section. Introduce a feature whereby an OP can topup their deal by say 100 degrees for £1 and buy an upvote for their answer in Ask for 10p.
£10 for 100° and we'll talk.
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2 Likes #23
For the same reason you wont post a thread like this again. HUKD has a group of members who are unpleasant and like to argue/troll and be generally abusive to people. It's why I don't post deals anymore, I just lurk and post occasionally.
#24
tempt
If I were HUKD, I would seriously consider exploiting this sense of entitlement and clamour for heat in the deals section and positive votes in the ask section. Introduce a feature whereby an OP can topup their deal by say 100 degrees for £1 and buy an upvote for their answer in Ask for 10p.

Next youre want a share of the revenue that each post makes too, when the person buys the item from the site lol :)
#25
Daft idea
#26
if ive always said if you post a deal and it helps even 1 person then thats what its about!


who cares about hot or cold really?

its the contribution that makes this site what it is
#27
tempt
If I were HUKD, I would seriously consider exploiting this sense of entitlement and clamour for heat in the deals section and positive votes in the ask section. Introduce a feature whereby an OP can topup their deal by say 100 degrees for £1 and buy an upvote for their answer in Ask for 10p.

dear god nom that its an absolute awful awful idea,

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#28
If u get hot deals u should get a mod for the night
1 Like #29
miles136
If u get hot deals u should get a mod for the night
Get or get to be a mod for the night? I know what way you'll answer.
1 Like #30
scaryvonne
I know this as been mentioned before... it goes cold it would be good to know if it's cheaper somewhere else

The price of the product/service that is the subject of the "Deal" may, or may not, have influence on the voting.

The best "Deal" is a subjective view of anything to do with the product thread (such as the merchant's past history, the non-guaranteed cashback, the colour/dimensions of the item, any comparative products, the day of the week, whether the member voting had run out of butter for their morning toast, or anything else connected/unconnected with the "Deal"), apparently.

A previous thread of note...

Can we please have the rules/guidelines on Voting made more clear??

Specifically, comment #56...
juliet_bravo - Aug 23, 2010 14:42

Taken from the original help & advice panel-

If you are cold voting a deal, it is good forum etiquette to post a note in the deal as to why you have done so. There is nothing more confusing to a new member, than to post a deal, only to see it go cold with no explanation. If you found the item cheaper elsewhere, please let us know where and how. If you have no interest or knowledge about the deal at all, please don’t vote cold, just move on.

HUKD has systems in place to detect serial cold voters, and it may lead to a ban from the forums, as it is against the code of conduct.

If members feel an apple product, for example, is comparable with another item and they do not think the apple represents good value, then of course they should state that within the thread. However we cannot be too strict with regards to forcing members to justify their votes. It will be detrimental to how the site works and the organic nature in which "hot" deals are voted as such.

Also, "Cold Voting", & the ironically-titled "EXPIRED - Can you get banned for voting cold too often?" (created by a member that is now banned).

There used to be a whole lifetime's worth of discussion(s) on the subject, but the following "tags" were removed recently:

[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/cold-voting ]
[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/voting-cold ]
[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/another-vote-cold-thread ]

You could use the Advanced Search Results for "cold", if you wish, though.
#31
The mods are aware of our voting patterns, and I think mine should show I very rarely vote negatively - if I don't rate it as a deal I usually just don't vote on it.

In saying that there are some things I think are not good for anyone, and I feel I ought to vote it down - even if it has been reduced in price, i.e. not that I've ever seen it but things like cheap cigarettes.
But, even with those things I tend to let them go unvoted on.

Sometimes, I might see something I believe is not a deal, but rather than vote I might post a comment of concern - but sometimes I know it's just going to upset peeps (i.e. try discussing nutella oO ) so again I just let it go.

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