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Want to install CCTV to rear of my house to record on a 1 week loop any help?

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banned6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
Wanting CCTV on the rear of the house to watch my motorbike in the garden,

needs to record on a one week loop system,

any ideas, help ? thanks very much, I will give you rep for your input!

Sam.
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banned6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
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banned#1
cant you just look out of the window ..... ha ha ha try and use your pc using a web cam and record straight to the HDD
banned#2
Webcam and cheap/old pc!
banned#3
master_chief
Webcam and cheap/old pc!


Yea this is what I was thinking but not sure how Id run it on a week loop, maybe need some software! and an IP wireless camera! I suppose thats 1 option.
#4
If you want it for security, rather than convenience, then you need a proper camera, and it's going to need to be infra-red for the night. Also, unless you just want to see someone stealing your bike, then you will need a high quality camera so it is actually useful to the police in identifying the thieves.
1 Like #5
master_chief
Webcam and cheap/old pc!


This is definately the cheapest way but i would also suggest one of them lights with a sensor so you can get a good picture if anyone comes around, if you get a cctv system with a hard drive it would cost a small fortune as you would also need infared cameras.
banned#6
hutchir9
This is definately the cheapest way but i would also suggest one of them lights with a sensor so you can get a good picture if anyone comes around, if you get a cctv system with a hard drive it would cost a small fortune as you would also need infared cameras.


Yes Ive just had my dad install 3 floddlights right around the house, and additional one at the front, ive had the entire garden fenced off too,

so if someone was in the garden even a standard camera should pick them up with the helpfulness of the PIR sensor on the floodlamps.
banned#7
peodude
If you want it for security, rather than convenience, then you need a proper camera, and it's going to need to be infra-red for the night. Also, unless you just want to see someone stealing your bike, then you will need a high quality camera so it is actually useful to the police in identifying the thieves.


Any recommendations?
1 Like #8
Maplin sell systems or ebay. Get a high quality camera with motion sensor ( saves recording space as only records when there is movement) Seen it work on a home security system and is very effective. It also means there is only a recording when something happens - less to watch through.:thumbsup:
2 Likes #9
Vitamin D is free for the single camera version.
As a cheap webcam system this is top notch, but it's free and only for surveillance. I'm guessing that is all you want it for anyway.
Like peodude said to "see" at night cameras need IR response and IR lights.
banned#10
michaelmakro
Maplin sell systems or ebay. Get a high quality camera with motion sensor ( saves recording space as only records when there is movement) Seen it work on a home security system and is very effective. It also means there is only a recording when something happens - less to watch through.:thumbsup:


very good idea I like that idea very much, motion only recording.

I found this one;

http://*********.co.uk/CCTV-Sony-CCD-27x-zoom-Outdoor-PTZ-Speed-Camera-System-/170387284323?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27abdfa163

cant display it! ohwell.
#11
The other thing to look at is how is your motorbike secured? Ideally, you need to embed a bike hoop (http://nimltdengineering.com/images/stories/offer/special_hook.jpg) into the ground good and proper, and then have one or more chains chaining it up. Make it as awkward as possible for them, gives them more chance to be disturbed and run away empty handed.
banned#12
michaelmakro
Maplin sell systems or ebay. Get a high quality camera with motion sensor ( saves recording space as only records when there is movement) Seen it work on a home security system and is very effective. It also means there is only a recording when something happens - less to watch through.:thumbsup:


Software will do the motion sensing, you don't need the camera to have that functionality.
#13
dvhendo
Any recommendations?


I don't have any personal recommendations, my housemate deals with all the specifics of the cameras, but you are looking at about £100 upwards for a decent camera, with, as someone mentioned, a motion sensor, and probably around £200 for a DVR, plus some cabling and maybe some fitting costs if you can't do it yourself
banned#14
peodude
The other thing to look at is how is your motorbike secured? Ideally, you need to embed a bike hoop (http://nimltdengineering.com/images/stories/offer/special_hook.jpg) into the ground good and proper, and then have one or more chains chaining it up. Make it as awkward as possible for them, gives them more chance to be disturbed and run away empty handed.


Yes its bolted to the ground with a concrete anchor and a thick chain. But round here in Doncaster I still dont believe its sufficient, the area im in is the worst area in Doncaster for bike crime according to statistics.

They are gits for it! and they took my last bike when I first bought this house! lol:)
banned#15
peodude
I don't have any personal recommendations, my housemate deals with all the specifics of the cameras, but you are looking at about £100 upwards for a decent camera, with, as someone mentioned, a motion sensor, and probably around £200 for a DVR, plus some cabling and maybe some fitting costs if you can't do it yourself


My dads an electrician so he would be doing everything! Im not even fussed about paying someone else to do it! just want it up and running, too busy myself to do it.
banned 1 Like #16
dvhendo
Yes its bolted to the ground with a concrete anchor and a thick chain. But round here in Doncaster I still dont believe its sufficient, the area im in is the worst area in Doncaster for bike crime according to statistics.

They are gits for it! and they took my last bike when I first bought this house! lol:)


move to a better area
banned#17
fragaliciousbob
move to a better area


haha, easier said than done, just got settled, I wont be having the chavs and Co. rope me outta this house, its my house ive paid for it, they can leave their council houses before I leave here, and ill fight them until they do.

But in 5-10 years I intend to sell this once ive built the extention - increase the house value.. :-D
1 Like #18
My local security shop has system for £300 + VAT, that includes everything needed, 4 cameras, cabling, DVR etc. That's an option, and if you decided the camera was not good enough to cover the bike, then you ca upgrade the camera later on. That gives you cover on your front door, side passage etc. as well,
banned#19
peodude
My local security shop has system for £300 + VAT, that includes everything needed, 4 cameras, cabling, DVR etc. That's an option, and if you decided the camera was not good enough to cover the bike, then you ca upgrade the camera later on. That gives you cover on your front door, side passage etc. as well,


So much more cool stuff can be done with an IP based system.
banned#20
master_chief
So much more cool stuff can be done with an IP based system.


All sound good ideas, but to be honest I dont really have a clue setting this IP stuff up, never did do any networking stuff! im sure after afew weeks I could get it installed eventually by myself, lol but thats not really an option right now, it needs to be wired in within 3 days tops.

Is this any good?

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=387511
banned#21
dvhendo
All sound good ideas, but to be honest I dont really have a clue setting this IP stuff up, never did do any networking stuff! im sure after afew weeks I could get it installed eventually by myself, lol but thats not really an option right now, it needs to be wired in within 3 days tops.


Yeah to be fair it's not for the IT illiterate but here's an example of what you can do.

Scalable system, keep adding cameras, plenty to choose from too.
All cameras connect to central server (cheap PC), recording limited to disk space. Disk space is cheap as chips.
You can connect your server to the internet and email you alerts with photos of intruder.
You can also implement SMS based notification.
You can implement face recognition so if someone is at your door that shouldn't be, you get an email with their picture.
You can create a grid on your camera's image and just have specific areas be set for alarm response, if someone goes in your garden but nowhere near your bike then it won't bother you.
Remote access. View your cameras from anywhere in the world!!!

All this using open source software. It is really cool what can be done and you're limited by your imagination more than your wallet.
banned#22
haven't you got room for a shed, got to be cheaper to lock it in an alarmed shed, after all this will probably end up getting nicked from outside a shop
banned#23
master_chief
Yeah to be fair it's not for the IT illiterate but here's an example of what you can do.

Scalable system, keep adding cameras, plenty to choose from too.
All cameras connect to central server (cheap PC), recording limited to disk space. Disk space is cheap as chips.
You can connect your server to the internet and email you alerts with photos of intruder.
You can also implement SMS based notification.
You can implement face recognition so if someone is at your door that shouldn't be, you get an email with their picture.
You can create a grid on your camera's image and just have specific areas be set for alarm response, if someone goes in your garden but nowhere near your bike then it won't bother you.

All this using open source software. It is really cool what can be done and you're limited by your imagination more than your wallet.


Wicked, when can you come and implement this for me? lol - IT is a strong point of mine as I run my own business that turns over 45k a year doing so. but not Networking IP stuff.
banned#24
sassie
haven't you got room for a shed, got to be cheaper to lock it in an alarmed shed, after all this will probably end up getting nicked from outside a shop


lol sassie,

Yes we have a shed, and an alarm on it, but I want it right out side our kitchen window, as its bolted to the ground there with 2 chains, and the floodlights come on when someone goes near it, I also am a very light sleeper and leave my window open 24/7 but the camera is just that bit of extra security. :-)
banned#25
dvhendo
Wicked, when can you come and implement this for me? lol - IT is a strong point of mine as I run my own business that turns over 45k a year doing so. but not Networking IP stuff.


The networking side is easy, it's the software that takes the time to set up.
banned 1 Like #26
dvhendo
lol sassie,

Yes we have a shed, and an alarm on it, but I want it right out side our kitchen window, as its bolted to the ground there with 2 chains, and the floodlights come on when someone goes near it, I also am a very light sleeper and leave my window open 24/7 but the camera is just that bit of extra security. :-)


you boys and your toys

surely its better you dont see who has it, surely you aint covered if it gets returned to you in a less desirable state :w00t:
banned#27
sassie
you boys and your toys

surely its better you dont see who has it, surely you aint covered if it gets returned to you in a less desirable state :w00t:


They still have to pay the repairs!
banned#28
My only concern for you is if they are wearing hoodies or obscuring their faces somehow, camera won't help you then but I guess it shouldn't put you off trying.
banned#29
master_chief
The networking side is easy, it's the software that takes the time to set up.


open source software, this online to download then obviously distributed under free open source?

depends how tricky it would be to configure it with the cameras,

the ones Ive found that im very interested in is;

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=387511

I just had a CCTV tradesman call me & quote £1100 - I said you can forget it! ill see him on rougetraders next series,

He said the DVR alone is £500 - hmm made of gold too i presume! and for 1 camera only. shocking quote
banned#30
master_chief
My only concern for you is if they are wearing hoodies or obscuring their faces somehow, camera won't help you then but I guess it shouldn't put you off trying.


Anythings worth a shot pal, if I actually get hold of any of these culprits there will be some broken bones flying about the place, but the dogs next store shouldnt mind. :)
banned 1 Like #31
dvhendo
open source software, this online to download then obviously distributed under free open source?

depends how tricky it would be to configure it with the cameras,

the ones Ive found that im very interested in is;

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=387511

I just had a CCTV tradesman call me & quote £1100 - I said you can forget it! ill see him on rougetraders next series,

He said the DVR alone is £500 - hmm made of gold too i presume! and for 1 camera only. shocking quote


Cameras look interesting, seems they have software bundled that can do the job too though maybe not as flexible as:

http://www.zoneminder.com/

Lots of customisations round that project. Saying all this I've never personally set a system up :oops: I do however know a couple who have and they love it. I will be doing this as my winter project this year I think.

There's also stuff for Windows Home Server if you ever wanted to go that route for your media.
banned#32
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master_chief
Cameras look interesting, seems they have software bundled that can do the job too though maybe not as flexible as:

http://www.zoneminder.com/

Lots of customisations round that project. Saying all this I've never personally set a system up :oops: I do however know a couple who have and they love it. I will be doing this as my winter project this year I think.

There's also stuff for Windows Home Server if you ever wanted to go that route for your media.


Thanks for all your help, I think ill give these cameras a shot, see if I can google the model number and get the unit cheaper first.

I will rep you for your input and the rest of the kind helpful soles! thank you very much,

Sam :thumbsup:
#33
Get one of these:
http://s2.hubimg.com/u/331481_f520.jpg

Much better than cameras at actually deterring people, has the added benefit of potentially mauling the chavs :P
banned#34
InfernoZeus
Get one of these:
http://s2.hubimg.com/u/331481_f520.jpg

Much better than cameras at actually deterring people, has the added benefit of potentially mauling the chavs :P


Difficult with my 3 year old daughter who hates dogs! :-)
banned#35
dvhendo
:thumbsup:

Thanks for all your help, I think ill give these cameras a shot, see if I can google the model number and get the unit cheaper first.

I will rep you for your input and the rest of the kind helpful soles! thank you very much,

Sam :thumbsup:


Keep me posted on how they perform if you get chance.
banned#36
InfernoZeus
Get one of these:


Much better than cameras at actually deterring people, has the added benefit of potentially mauling the chavs :P


Just throw some steak over the garden wall first :thumbsup:
#37
dvhendo
Difficult with my 3 year old daughter who hates dogs! :-)

Ah yeh... that's probably not recommended then :P
#38
I have two of these.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/networking/review/2007/01/15/Linksys-WVC200-Wireless-IP-Camera/p1

With two infra red mini lamps from ebay.

Feeding this

http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=113

Has two RAIDED drives and records and stores a 7 day cycle.
banned#39
master_chief
Keep me posted on how they perform if you get chance.


Will do - i will be ordering them in 2 days time. :)
banned#40
chester123
I have two of these.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/networking/review/2007/01/15/Linksys-WVC200-Wireless-IP-Camera/p1

With two infra red mini lamps from ebay.

Feeding this

http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=113

Has two RAIDED drives and records and stores a 7 day cycle.


that NAS network server, I wouldnt have a clue, no good with this sort of server device. only laptop/desktop repair, and small home networks. :roll:

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