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Warning over childrens dental health

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banned2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28285290

I have noticed over the last few years the terrible state of childrens teeth, surely this is bordering on child abuse.

I seriously wonder whether the parents of these child are even fit to have them.

How hard can it be to do the right thing for your children?
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banned2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
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At my little boys new school they get all the kids to brush their teeth once a day. They brought in the scheme to improve dental health as not all parents brush their child's teeth twice... or even once a day oO
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whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.
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vics219
At my little boys new school they get all the kids to brush their teeth once a day. They brought in the scheme to improve dental health as not all parents brush their child's teeth twice... or even once a day oO

Wowzer
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toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

Slight typing error, grow up!

So unless you raise the perfect child you're committing abuse. How about raising a slightly overweight or dumb child is that too? How about not being over protective and letting them get in an accident.

Its not a stretch, its an offensive comment by you.
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davidian84
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

Slight typing error, grow up!

So unless you raise the perfect child you're committing abuse. How about raising a slightly overweight or dumb child is that too? How about not being over protective and letting them get in an accident.

Its not a stretch, its an offensive comment by you.

You don't see a problem with hundreds of children having all their teeth removed because they are rotting?
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whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

so you don't see kids having loads of sweets because their parents got them cheap as a result of this site as a problem :|

I never mentioned sweet deals but no I don't particularly see a problem there. Clearly for those willing to think before jumping down my throat the problem is parents too stupid or too uncaring or too uneducated to know that children need to clean their teeth sufficiently frequently enough to hold tooth decay in abeyance. No need to drink coke all day long when water does a better job of re hydrating either.

Can hardly blame the five year olds and it is someones fault so who's left?.
#8
First i think child abuse shouldnt be used for any mistakes a parents make.

Also is 500 alot or a tiny percentage, how much was it 20 years ago, telegraph says treated bbc says teeth removed. Are decaying baby teeth a big issue?

This and obesity are caused by government and parents due to cheap junk food and I would say obestity is a bigger deal than losing baby teeth
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whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

so you don't see kids having loads of sweets because their parents got them cheap as a result of this site as a problem :|

I never mentioned sweet deals but no I don't particularly see a problem there. Clearly for those willing to think before jumping down my throat the problem is parents too stupid or too uncaring or too uneducated to know that children need to clean their teeth sufficiently frequently enough to hold tooth decay in abeyance. No need to drink coke all day long when water does a better job of re hydrating either.

Can hardly blame the five year olds and it is someones fault so who's left?.

looking at it logically its unlikely parents have got any worst at teaching kids to clean their teeth over the last few generations, so that means its down to more foods having hidden sugar added

Crooked thinking,

rotten teeth = not enough cleaning

parents are responsible for teaching children how and how often they need to clean teeth and if they don't and the result is the child loses all it's teeth then that is child abuse. Plain and simple really.
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toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

so you don't see kids having loads of sweets because their parents got them cheap as a result of this site as a problem :|

I never mentioned sweet deals but no I don't particularly see a problem there. Clearly for those willing to think before jumping down my throat the problem is parents too stupid or too uncaring or too uneducated to know that children need to clean their teeth sufficiently frequently enough to hold tooth decay in abeyance. No need to drink coke all day long when water does a better job of re hydrating either.

Can hardly blame the five year olds and it is someones fault so who's left?.

looking at it logically its unlikely parents have got any worst at teaching kids to clean their teeth over the last few generations, so that means its down to more foods having hidden sugar added

Crooked thinking,

rotten teeth = not enough cleaning

parents are responsible for teaching children how and how often they need to clean teeth and if they don't and the result is the child loses all it's teeth then that is child abuse. Plain and simple really.
Just out of curiosity, why are you always starting controversial threads? oO
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hocka
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

so you don't see kids having loads of sweets because their parents got them cheap as a result of this site as a problem :|

I never mentioned sweet deals but no I don't particularly see a problem there. Clearly for those willing to think before jumping down my throat the problem is parents too stupid or too uncaring or too uneducated to know that children need to clean their teeth sufficiently frequently enough to hold tooth decay in abeyance. No need to drink coke all day long when water does a better job of re hydrating either.

Can hardly blame the five year olds and it is someones fault so who's left?.

looking at it logically its unlikely parents have got any worst at teaching kids to clean their teeth over the last few generations, so that means its down to more foods having hidden sugar added

Crooked thinking,

rotten teeth = not enough cleaning

parents are responsible for teaching children how and how often they need to clean teeth and if they don't and the result is the child loses all it's teeth then that is child abuse. Plain and simple really.
Just out of curiosity, why are you always starting controversial threads? oO

Oh I saw the story on BBC news and it got my blood boiling. 500 children a year having all their teeth removed because they are rotten. I would have thought it's a reasonable topic for conversation. We see the result of this problem on Jeremy Kyle. :D

No wonder the world laughs at our dental hygiene.
#13
toshapetriji
hocka
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

so you don't see kids having loads of sweets because their parents got them cheap as a result of this site as a problem :|

I never mentioned sweet deals but no I don't particularly see a problem there. Clearly for those willing to think before jumping down my throat the problem is parents too stupid or too uncaring or too uneducated to know that children need to clean their teeth sufficiently frequently enough to hold tooth decay in abeyance. No need to drink coke all day long when water does a better job of re hydrating either.

Can hardly blame the five year olds and it is someones fault so who's left?.

looking at it logically its unlikely parents have got any worst at teaching kids to clean their teeth over the last few generations, so that means its down to more foods having hidden sugar added

Crooked thinking,

rotten teeth = not enough cleaning

parents are responsible for teaching children how and how often they need to clean teeth and if they don't and the result is the child loses all it's teeth then that is child abuse. Plain and simple really.
Just out of curiosity, why are you always starting controversial threads? oO

Oh I saw the story on BBC news and it got my blood boiling. 500 children a year having all their teeth removed because they are rotten. I would have thought it's a reasonable topic for conversation. We see the result of this problem on Jeremy Kyle. :D

No wonder the world laughs at our dental hygiene.
As a parent, I completely agree that looking after our childrens teeth is paramount, BUT throwing words about like 'child abuse' and 'parents not being fit enough to have kids' is, IMHO, too far.
#14
BTW, my daughters teeth are perfect! :p
#15
toshapetriji
hocka
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

so you don't see kids having loads of sweets because their parents got them cheap as a result of this site as a problem :|

I never mentioned sweet deals but no I don't particularly see a problem there. Clearly for those willing to think before jumping down my throat the problem is parents too stupid or too uncaring or too uneducated to know that children need to clean their teeth sufficiently frequently enough to hold tooth decay in abeyance. No need to drink coke all day long when water does a better job of re hydrating either.

Can hardly blame the five year olds and it is someones fault so who's left?.

looking at it logically its unlikely parents have got any worst at teaching kids to clean their teeth over the last few generations, so that means its down to more foods having hidden sugar added

Crooked thinking,

rotten teeth = not enough cleaning

parents are responsible for teaching children how and how often they need to clean teeth and if they don't and the result is the child loses all it's teeth then that is child abuse. Plain and simple really.
Just out of curiosity, why are you always starting controversial threads? oO

Oh I saw the story on BBC news and it got my blood boiling. 500 children a year having all their teeth removed because they are rotten. I would have thought it's a reasonable topic for conversation. We see the result of this problem on Jeremy Kyle. :D

No wonder the world laughs at our dental hygiene.

Clearly you ignore facts and just stick to only reading sensationalised headlines. Not a problem for Jeremy Kyle as its BABY TEETH. A weak set of teeth the only last 8 years not the proper teeth that last 80 years
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toshapetriji
Oh I saw the story on BBC news and it got my blood boiling. 500 children a year having all their teeth removed because they are rotten. I would have thought it's a reasonable topic for conversation. We see the result of this problem on Jeremy Kyle. :D

No wonder the world laughs at our dental hygiene.

It's not just dental hygene - this is just another dig at the lazy *** and/or uncaring and/or uneducated parents who have children.

Yes there are a few hard working and/or caring and/or educated parents who still make simple mistakes when bringing up their children but realistically we are turning into our lazy lard *** American cousins across the pond where fast food is seved 3 times a day and kids are born obese

I think it's right for any department concerned with kids care should point out to the media it's concerns - we are too quick to shoot them down when they've failed
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We were on a flight last week and there was a family with 2 girls aged approx 3 & 4. They were both bought a can of full fat coke each! Shocking. Plus they had a drinks bottle each with a teat on the end full of full fat ribena. Odd?
My youngest has only ever drank milk or water and she very rarely has sweets etc however she has already had to have 2 holes repaired in her baby teeth. No idea whats caused that? Acid in fruit maybe?
My eldest only ever drank milk or low sugar cordial, picks at snacky type foods and some sugary foods but has never had to have any work on her teeth!
I do think each person has stronger or weaker teeth than others even if you look after them perfectly.
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galareho
We were on a flight last week and there was a family with 2 girls aged approx 3 & 4. They were both bought a can of full fat coke each! Shocking. Plus they had a drinks bottle each with a teat on the end full of full fat ribena. Odd?
My youngest has only ever drank milk or water and she very rarely has sweets etc however she has already had to have 2 holes repaired in her baby teeth. No idea whats caused that? Acid in fruit maybe?
My eldest only ever drank milk or low sugar cordial, picks at snacky type foods and some sugary foods but has never had to have any work on her teeth!
I do think each person has stronger or weaker teeth than others even if you look after them perfectly.

Agreed - some kids are built differently but none of your kids had major dental treatment.

It's OK giving your kids sweets occasionally
It's OK giving your kids fast food once a week
It's OK giving your kids a packet of crisps occasionally
It's OK giving your kids the odd soft drink occasionally

But it's the parents who don't cook/prepare fresh veg several times a week, gives them soft drinks almost every time, gives them crisps and sweets when they are peckish, gives them chocolate bars for tea and sits them down in front of the tv or games console most nights that need to learn to start caring or have the "your abusing your child" finger pointed.
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philphil61
galareho
We were on a flight last week and there was a family with 2 girls aged approx 3 & 4. They were both bought a can of full fat coke each! Shocking. Plus they had a drinks bottle each with a teat on the end full of full fat ribena. Odd?
My youngest has only ever drank milk or water and she very rarely has sweets etc however she has already had to have 2 holes repaired in her baby teeth. No idea whats caused that? Acid in fruit maybe?
My eldest only ever drank milk or low sugar cordial, picks at snacky type foods and some sugary foods but has never had to have any work on her teeth!
I do think each person has stronger or weaker teeth than others even if you look after them perfectly.

Agreed - some kids are built differently but none of your kids had major dental treatment.

It's OK giving your kids sweets occasionally
It's OK giving your kids fast food once a week
It's OK giving your kids a packet of crisps occasionally
It's OK giving your kids the odd soft drink occasionally

But it's the parents who don't cook/prepare fresh veg several times a week, gives them soft drinks almost every time, gives them crisps and sweets when they are peckish, gives them chocolate bars for tea and sits them down in front of the tv or games console most nights that need to learn to start caring or have the "your abusing your child" finger pointed.


Our dentist has always said only have sweet things at meal times and then after you've brushed your teeth smear a small amount of toothpaste over the teeth. We dont follow his instructions perfectly as sometimes lifes too busy!
Its definitley a combination of a lot of things and some 'parents' need a good kick up the backside!!
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A big contribution is Fizzy Sugar Drinks,

We made a decision in our family a while back to totally cut out these drinks, the kids think its unfair when i wont allow them to drink Coke or Ribenna, i encourage drinking water in the family, I struggle with that but we allow sugar free cordials, and not no added sugar its two different things.

but lets be honest my kids get hold of them, at school they sell Coke, the local shops sell any amount to any age my daughter likes to buy Lucozade and stash it in her room, shes 16 i cant really do much..

I taught my kids to brush there teeth and now i have to rewrite that to make them wait an hour or more after eating or drinking sugar to make sure they get benefit. its a constant fight with younger kids to get them to brush their teeth, they are too busy triple jumping Mario or watching annoying oranges, i don't think just blaming parents is the right thing to do, in fact i think education is better than ever.

Dont most schools brush teeth at school now as well, i know ours does, brush in the morning and brush after lunch. you have to sign to allow it, but its there.

Fruit can be just as bad as sweets for teeth, Strawberry, Grapes, Bannana all very high in Carbs and Sugar..

Maybe the supermarkets and shops, should not sell unhealthy products to children, maybe secondary schools shouldn't stock Coke and Pepsi..

Pretty easy to blame parents isn't it, but as parents we can only do so much, we can educate and guide our children, but society has a responsibility too.

This isn't just a problem with children either is it! ?


toshapetriji serious question... Do you have children?


Edited By: haritori on Jul 14, 2014 10:48
#21
My son has a hospital appointment for a filling in a couple of weeks, I started trying to teach him to clean his teeth when he was about 2, I admit I was buying organic fluoride free toothpaste due to fears over swallowing it which nay not have helped, turned out he wasn't brushing all the way to the back.

I take offence at being judged by the op, they advocate (health visitors etc) that you teach your child to clean their teeth, its very hard to make sure they are doing so correctly. I am now cleaning his teeth for him much to his dislike and it certainly isn't easy, have to buy a new brush far too often due to him chewing it etc and he has a tendency to jump up and down, swing his head about and lean backwards while pulling on the sink so I have to try and clean his teeth from the side with one hand while trying to hold him up with the other so he doesn't fall over backwards.

How many of these kids have rotten teeth because of the 5 a day brigade? I'm still getting conflicting information, I've got the dentist telling him not to drink surgery drinks or sugar free because they contain acids and eat lots of cheese and dairy and then the GPs saying drink watered down fruit juice, sugar free drinks are ok and cut down on the cheese because its fatty and high in salt.
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whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
toshapetriji
whatsThePoint
so you think this site is commuting child abuse by allowing deals for sweets/chocs to be posted :|

That was a long stretch even for you. You might like to look up commuting too.

so you don't see kids having loads of sweets because their parents got them cheap as a result of this site as a problem :|

I never mentioned sweet deals but no I don't particularly see a problem there. Clearly for those willing to think before jumping down my throat the problem is parents too stupid or too uncaring or too uneducated to know that children need to clean their teeth sufficiently frequently enough to hold tooth decay in abeyance. No need to drink coke all day long when water does a better job of re hydrating either.

Can hardly blame the five year olds and it is someones fault so who's left?.

looking at it logically its unlikely parents have got any worst at teaching kids to clean their teeth over the last few generations, so that means its down to more foods having hidden sugar added

I agree with this, when I was my sons age I lived off nesquick and sunpat chocolate spread toasted sandwiches, I loved em, I have had no dental work bar the odd clean so something has changed, I would definitely say my son eats a hell of a lot better then I did so why does he have bad teeth?
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Error440
I would definitely say my son eats a hell of a lot better then I did so why does he have bad teeth?

Because you haven't been brushing them
#24
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.

Have a read peeps.

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/fluorosis/

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/thyroid/

Edited By: WoolyM on Jul 14, 2014 12:22
#25
Twice daily with a dab of toothpaste in the afternoon now on the affected tooth, did you bother reading my first post? I cleaned his teeth with organic toothgel when he was teething, then he got organic fluoride free toothpaste, when he was around 2 started teaching him to brush his teeth and encourage him to spit as the health visitor advices, get them to clean their teeth early so they get into the routine of being able to do it, 4 years old notice the damage and start brusing them for him again.
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WoolyM
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.


Have a read peeps.

I was buying my Son some age/fluoride appropriate toothpaste in Asda a few days ago, and was amazed when the lady on the till told me she uses adult toothpaste on her 2 year old. She was shocked that I bothered to buy my 4 year old kids toothpaste, and was like "he hated it at first but I made him get used to it as the kids stuff is far too expensive"! Erm yeah it's about £1.50 a tube oO She had no clue about fluoride, just thought kids toothpaste was a money making scam.
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Error440
Twice daily with a dab of toothpaste in the afternoon now on the affected tooth, did you bother reading my first post? I cleaned his teeth with organic toothgel when he was teething, then he got organic fluoride free toothpaste, when he was around 2 started teaching him to brush his teeth and encourage him to spit as the health visitor advices, get them to clean their teeth early so they get into the routine of being able to do it, 4 years old notice the damage and start brusing them for him again.

Yes I read it and understood fully. You said yourself that he wasn't brushing to the back which was the reason for the tooth decay, and at 2 years I think is understandable as his coordination probably wasn't good enough to brush his own teeth effectively.

You asked why your child had bad teeth, I pointed out it was because you weren't brushing them... which is what you have said yourself twice now. Just pointing out the fact, I don't get why that's a problem.
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Error440
Twice daily with a dab of toothpaste in the afternoon now on the affected tooth, did you bother reading my first post? I cleaned his teeth with organic toothgel when he was teething, then he got organic fluoride free toothpaste, when he was around 2 started teaching him to brush his teeth and encourage him to spit as the health visitor advices, get them to clean their teeth early so they get into the routine of being able to do it, 4 years old notice the damage and start brusing them for him again.

Also just to add a little note, although you've probably leaned this for yourself by now. It could help others though... teaching very young kids to brush their own teeth is fantastic, but do it as well as cleaning them properly yourself. Brush their teeth thoroughly, then afterwards, give them the brush and get them to copy what you've done. No need to add more toothpaste as you're simply teething the correct brushing, and improving their coordination.
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whatsThePoint
vics219
WoolyM
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.


Have a read peeps.

I was buying my Son some age/fluoride appropriate toothpaste in Asda a few days ago, and was amazed when the lady on the till told me she uses adult toothpaste on her 2 year old. She was shocked that I bothered to buy my 4 year old kids toothpaste, and was like "he hated it at first but I made him get used to it as the kids stuff is far too expensive"! Erm yeah it's about £1.50 a tube oO She had no clue about fluoride, just thought kids toothpaste was a money making scam.

the only difference is kid's toothpaste has more added sugar :|

No, it's about fluoride levels. A child under 2 shouldn't use a fluoride paste, and children under 6 need a reduced amount due to swallowing the paste/fluoride.
#31
Do You Still Believe Fluoride is Good For Our Teeth? Read This!

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/08/04/do-you-still-believe-fluoride-is-good-for-our-teeth-read-this/

It is illegal to dump the hazardous fluoride waste products hydrofluorocilicic acid, hexafluorisilisic acid and sodium silicofluroride into water streams, rivers or environment. It is considered an act of terrorism to do so. Yet it is legal to do and accepted as a safe practice when we add it to our water supply under the guise that it is helping with dental hygiene. This theory of helping with dental hygiene is built off of assumptions and not science. Currently, there is no evidence to suggest water fluoridation helps prevent tooth decay.


There is not presently fluoridation across the whole of the UK

Edited By: WoolyM on Jul 14, 2014 12:46: .
#32
WoolyM
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.

Have a read peeps.

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/fluorosis/

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/thyroid/

But has the level in the water increased? It was in the water when I was growing up.
#33

I think it's all about the right levels wooly. Obviously high fluorine levels in the body is damaging, but it does help to protect teeth from decay a great deal. It's just important that we use age appropriate paste for our kids, use the correct amounts, and teach them to spit it out rather than swallow.
#34
Error440
WoolyM
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.

Have a read peeps.

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/fluorosis/

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/thyroid/

But has the level in the water increased? It was in the water when I was growing up.

It is cumulative in the body. It build up with exposure to it. So there will be greater exposure over time. Some areas of the UK have their water fluoridated. But it is also likely present in many prepared drinks you can buy.
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vics219

I think it's all about the right levels wooly. Obviously high fluorine levels in the body is damaging, but it does help to protect teeth from decay a great deal. It's just important that we use age appropriate paste for our kids, use the correct amounts, and teach them to spit it out rather than swallow.

so we have been taught
#36
vics219
WoolyM
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.


Have a read peeps.

I was buying my Son some age/fluoride appropriate toothpaste in Asda a few days ago, and was amazed when the lady on the till told me she uses adult toothpaste on her 2 year old. She was shocked that I bothered to buy my 4 year old kids toothpaste, and was like "he hated it at first but I made him get used to it as the kids stuff is far too expensive"! Erm yeah it's about £1.50 a tube oO She had no clue about fluoride, just thought kids toothpaste was a money making scam.

check the ingredients toothpaste labeled as ages 3+ has the same ppm of fluoride as adult toothpastes, its just got less abrasive materials in it like silica
#37
whatsThePoint
vics219
whatsThePoint
vics219
WoolyM
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.


Have a read peeps.

I was buying my Son some age/fluoride appropriate toothpaste in Asda a few days ago, and was amazed when the lady on the till told me she uses adult toothpaste on her 2 year old. She was shocked that I bothered to buy my 4 year old kids toothpaste, and was like "he hated it at first but I made him get used to it as the kids stuff is far too expensive"! Erm yeah it's about £1.50 a tube oO She had no clue about fluoride, just thought kids toothpaste was a money making scam.

the only difference is kid's toothpaste has more added sugar :|

No, it's about fluoride levels. A child under 2 shouldn't use a fluoride paste, and children under 6 need a reduced amount due to swallowing the paste/fluoride.

and adults use a pea size amount of toothpaste while a kid fills the brush with kids toothpaste ending up with the same amount of fluoride
so the lesson is teach kids to use a pea size bit of adult paste

And don't swallow it
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#38
whatsThePoint
vics219
whatsThePoint
vics219
WoolyM
Whilst there is no doubt that high concentrations of sugar are bad for the teeth people should also be aware of dental fluorosis
which can also weaken teeth and cause them to fracture and break.

It can be from too large an exposure to fluoride.

Well how about that.


Have a read peeps.

I was buying my Son some age/fluoride appropriate toothpaste in Asda a few days ago, and was amazed when the lady on the till told me she uses adult toothpaste on her 2 year old. She was shocked that I bothered to buy my 4 year old kids toothpaste, and was like "he hated it at first but I made him get used to it as the kids stuff is far too expensive"! Erm yeah it's about £1.50 a tube oO She had no clue about fluoride, just thought kids toothpaste was a money making scam.

the only difference is kid's toothpaste has more added sugar :|

No, it's about fluoride levels. A child under 2 shouldn't use a fluoride paste, and children under 6 need a reduced amount due to swallowing the paste/fluoride.

and adults use a pea size amount of toothpaste while a kid fills the brush with kids toothpaste ending up with the same amount of fluoride
so the lesson is teach kids to use a pea size bit of adult paste

Well they shouldn't. I add the paste to my child's toothbrush and ensure he spits it out
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haritori
A big contribution is Fizzy Sugar Drinks,

We made a decision in our family a while back to totally cut out these drinks, the kids think its unfair when i wont allow them to drink Coke or Ribenna, i encourage drinking water in the family, I struggle with that but we allow sugar free cordials, and not no added sugar its two different things.

but lets be honest my kids get hold of them, at school they sell Coke, the local shops sell any amount to any age my daughter likes to buy Lucozade and stash it in her room, shes 16 i cant really do much..

I taught my kids to brush there teeth and now i have to rewrite that to make them wait an hour or more after eating or drinking sugar to make sure they get benefit. its a constant fight with younger kids to get them to brush their teeth, they are too busy triple jumping Mario or watching annoying oranges, i don't think just blaming parents is the right thing to do, in fact i think education is better than ever.

Dont most schools brush teeth at school now as well, i know ours does, brush in the morning and brush after lunch. you have to sign to allow it, but its there.

Fruit can be just as bad as sweets for teeth, Strawberry, Grapes, Bannana all very high in Carbs and Sugar..

Maybe the supermarkets and shops, should not sell unhealthy products to children, maybe secondary schools shouldn't stock Coke and Pepsi..

Pretty easy to blame parents isn't it, but as parents we can only do so much, we can educate and guide our children, but society has a responsibility too.

This isn't just a problem with children either is it! ?


toshapetriji serious question... Do you have children?


It's good what you've tried to do with your kids and yes it's hard work sometimes but you (and parents like you) are not one of these uncaring adults who don't take responsibility for their kids and cause this issue.

Regarding fruits containing sugar - yes but it's natural sugars and not as harmful.

"Maybe the supermarkets and shops, should not sell unhealthy products to children" - Maybe the government should tax highly sweetened, high cholesterol, high fat (and any other food types that cause obesity and other issues and use the tax to reduce the price fruit and vegetables and other healthy options,

"Pretty easy to blame parents isn't it" yes because you are ultimately responsible < note the word responsible and understand it's meaning but remember if you are responsible then nobody has issues with you it's those that are not taking responsibility that need the kick up the ***
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I take offence at being judged by the op,


I didn't judge you. I simply commented that if a child needed all it's teeth removed then there was a problem, a few fillings I would have thought is normal. Why so touchy?

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