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8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
Morning All,

I am trying to find out what my friend would need to enable his business to have a standard website with the ability to allow users to fill in an online form and submit it directly to the company without sending an email (A contact us form, think this uses a MySQL database? - How easy are these to set up?).

The company would require email addresses so would they would need a domain name (.co.uk) included in the monthly fee.

Can anyone advise a package and preferably a host that would enable the above for a decent monthly fee?

Cheers
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8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
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#1
I have used [url]www.bluehost.com[/url] in the past... was ages ago they used to be quite good.
#3
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#4
Not sure if they have what you need but could try [url]www.one.com[/url]
#5
i've used velnet for several years. as for the contact form that can be done without using mysql you can simply create the form and when the end-user clicks submit it emails the results to an email address of your choice. they provide pop3 and webmail as well.
#6
Can't advise you on the best host, but I would recommend you buy the domain name from a separate source. That way if the host turns out to be a complete crock you can get a new one and redirect within a few hours. If the hosting company also holds the domain name you can run into problems down the line should you decide to tell them where to go;-)
#7
I'd avoid 123-reg if you were wanting to use mysql or php for an online form. Their packages only include perl/cgi and they offer no support on their own library of free scripts.

Ive just moved to Heart Internet (http://www.heartinternet.co.uk). who were so quick to setup and get up and running.

Ive also just setup a PHP contact form, which is a doddle to deploy onto a web page. Let me know if you would like some code to get yours working.
#8
I've used [url]www.godaddy.com[/url] before and found them very helpful and reasonable for price.
#9
wolf359
i've used velnet for several years. as for the contact form that can be done without using mysql you can simply create the form and when the end-user clicks submit it emails the results to an email address of your choice. they provide pop3 and webmail as well.


Does that mean the contact form would send an email from their email address or it would automatically send an email to me using its own email address?

The idea is it doesnt have to use the clients email facility, they fill in an online form and press submit and then somehow it gets to us.
#10
Shengis
Can't advise you on the best host, but I would recommend you buy the domain name from a separate source. That way if the host turns out to be a complete crock you can get a new one and redirect within a few hours. If the hosting company also holds the domain name you can run into problems down the line should you decide to tell them where to go;-)


Where would you advise doing that? How do you manage it then?
#11
Domain Names: [url]www.123reg.co.uk[/url] - Excellent service and well priced

Hosting: [url]www.tsohost.co.uk[/url] - Strongly recommended after much trial and error with other hosts, plus they are very cheap and have excellent support.

As already mentioned you dont need a database to create the form you want, it is simple html really, you just need the action to be send email and yes this would mean they dont need their own email address, they simply fill out the form and click send.
#12
dmccabe
Domain Names: [url]www.123reg.co.uk[/url] - Excellent service and well priced

Hosting: [url]www.tsohost.co.uk[/url] - Strongly recommended after much trial and error with other hosts, plus they are very cheap and have excellent support.

As already mentioned you dont need a database to create the form you want, it is simple html really, you just need the action to be send email and yes this would mean they dont need their own email address, they simply fill out the form and click send.


Any chance you would know the code to create that form?

I have had a play with HTML but I could never find out how you get it to email automatically I have a form on my own website but the contact form uses the clients own email editor to send the email rather than sending it in the background.
#13
dmccabe
Domain Names: [url]www.123reg.co.uk[/url] - Excellent service and well priced

Hosting: [url]www.tsohost.co.uk[/url] - Strongly recommended after much trial and error with other hosts, plus they are very cheap and have excellent support.

As already mentioned you dont need a database to create the form you want, it is simple html really, you just need the action to be send email and yes this would mean they dont need their own email address, they simply fill out the form and click send.


Is £41.67 a good price for a domain name for 2 years and 3 email addresses for a year?

Thats from Reg 123 but doesnt include a web hosting package.

That seems really expensive considering I would have to pay another £40 a year for the hosting?
#14
dmccabe
...it is simple html really, you just need the action to be send email ...


You would need some server side script - PERL, PHP, ASP etc
#15
goss.man
Is £41.67 a good price for a domain name for 2 years and 3 email addresses for a year?


.com or .co.uk?

Either way, it is quite expensive. Try 123-reg.co.uk
#16
JayBird
.com or .co.uk?

Either way, it is quite expensive. Try 123-reg.co.uk


.co.uk and that was with Reg-123.

How much would the average price be for web hosting, domain name and email addresses for a year?

Cheers
#17
goss.man
.co.uk and that was with Reg-123.

How much would the average price be for web hosting, domain name and email addresses for a year?

Cheers


£41 for a .co.uk

Are you sure you didnt have some others selected too like .com and .eu?

.co.uk domain names are only about £6.50
#18
Try godaddy.com, that's who I use. The co.uk domains are £5.10 a year and they throw in email etc free.
#19
JayBird
£41 for a .co.uk

Are you sure you didnt have some others selected too like .com and .eu?

.co.uk domain names are only about £6.50


The actual name was only £5.99 for 2 years but the yearly fee for each of the email addresses was £9.90 add them together and it comes to £41 ish.

Is this because I am not taking web hosting from them too?
#20
Not sure if this is self promotion, sorry will edit the post if any thinks that it is, but i work for a company called Secure Web Services. Specialising in Secure Hosting and web development. http://www.securewebservices.co.uk/. We do competative hosting packages that include mail and domain registration, you can choose from dedicated, virtual or shared hosting. We also have software to manage an ecommerce website and the lowest tier is free to host. Hope this might help you.
#21
Use [url]www.one.com[/url], choose the first package and go through quidco and it makes it 58p for a year ;). There are choices of .com domains etc with unlimited e-mails accounts.
#22



Eek - I saw the word 'free crop up in that list. Free (and very cheap) is fine if you're running a non-commercial website, but if you're doing business, you really need to spend a little more to get a high-quality, reliable service.

Consider your customers.What are they going to think if the site is down? Either that the company has gone out of business, or that they're too unreliable to be worth doing business with. Either of these will cost real money. I guess it's up to your mate to consider his expenses and possible losses, but be warned about the potential damage a dodgy website could do.
#23
goss.man
The actual name was only £5.99 for 2 years but the yearly fee for each of the email addresses was £9.90 add them together and it comes to £41 ish.

Is this because I am not taking web hosting from them too?



You dont need the email services if you are also then buying hosting. you will be provided email with that

Afetr being in the web business for 15 years, United Hosting are by far the best host i have used - http://www.unitedhosting.co.uk/hosting.php
#24
I am trying to find out what my friend would need to enable his business to have a standard website with the ability to allow users to fill in an online form and submit it directly to the company without sending an email (A contact us form, think this uses a MySQL database? - How easy are these to set up?).


Reading back your post i don't think you need a database. I am assuming you just don't want the customer to have to open thier email client to contact you. So the best way to stop them having to do this to have the form laid out with a From Field (where the customer puts thier address), a message/comment field and have the subject created by the code. Then use the php mail function to send the mail to a predetermined address (e.g. [email protected]">[email protected]). Easy for the customer to use and all enquies are keept in one mail box.
#25
JayBird
You dont need the email services if you are also then buying hosting.


What he said ^^

Just buy the domain, then when you get your hosting make sure you get all the emails with it.
#26
si_wattsy
Reading back your post i don't think you need a database. I am assuming you just don't want the customer to have to open thier email client to contact you. So the best way to stop them having to do this to have the form laid out with a From Field (where the customer puts thier address), a message/comment field and have the subject created by the code. Then use the php mail function to send the mail to a predetermined address (e.g. [email protected]">[email protected]). Easy for the customer to use and all enquies are keept in one mail box.


Yep thats pretty much it, how does the website send the email from them to the company without using an email client though?
#27
JayBird
You dont need the email services if you are also then buying hosting. you will be provided email with that

Afetr being in the web business for 15 years, United Hosting are by far the best host i have used - http://www.unitedhosting.co.uk/hosting.php


Will they do me everything?

Domain, Email etc for £8 a month?

There .co.uk looks like its £15 for 2 years.....

Didnt think there was going to be so much choice.
#28
goss.man
Yep thats pretty much it, how does the website send the email from them to the company without using an email client though?


[url]www.php.net[/url] - PHP is a severside scripting language. When you hit the "send" button in the form the data in the form is "posted" to the server. The php code then gets the posted data and passes it into the mail function. The Server then sends out the mail out through it's own mail server.
#29
si_wattsy
[url]www.php.net[/url] - PHP is a severside scripting language. When you hit the "send" button in the form the data in the form is "posted" to the server. The php code then gets the posted data and passes it into the mail function. The Server then sends out the mail out through it's own mail server.


Would this create what I want?

http://php.about.com/od/advancedphp/ss/mail.htm

Php is an alternate language to HTML then.
#30
goss.man
Would this create what I want?

http://php.about.com/od/advancedphp/ss/mail.htm

Php is an alternate language to HTML then.


Php isn't an alternative. PHP is used along side HTML.

Yes the site you linked to shows you how to use the mail function.
#31
I use http://www.patrickinternet.co.uk/ very helpful when you contact them, and also have a one click system for installing lot of things like phpbb3 forums, and they also have a Form to Email system.

Comes with unlimited subdomains, hosting, databases, everything

I paid £19.99 for a years hosting, not sure if i paid more fo my *.co.uk
banned#32
goss.man;2146020
Does that mean the contact form would send an email from their email address or it would automatically send an email to me using its own email address?

The idea is it doesnt have to use the clients email facility, they fill in an online form and press submit and then somehow it gets to us.


The form will effectively send you an email from that person. Dont put your email address on your website - it will be harvested for spam. Forms are the better option.


goss.man;2146042
Where would you advise doing that? How do you manage it then?


When you buy a domain, you will be given a control panel which will allow you to do all you need in respect of web and email.

goss.man;2146208
Is £41.67 a good price for a domain name for 2 years and 3 email addresses for a year?

Thats from Reg 123 but doesnt include a web hosting package.

That seems really expensive considering I would have to pay another £40 a year for the hosting?


123-reg charge about £6 for 2 years for a co.uk. Not sure where you managed to get that figure from!

It doesnt sound like you would need a lot of webspace - so make sure you buy from a UK web host.

If it were me - I'd get my domain from 123-reg and host with liquidsix.com or 34sp.com (Who are both reliable web hosts.)
#33
guv
123-reg charge about £6 for 2 years for a co.uk. Not sure where you managed to get that figure from!


It was £5.99 for 2 years but if I added email addresses it was £10 a year for each address.

Liquidsix.com seems reasonable. do you reckon the gold plan would be good enough for what I require?

Or would I be more suited with the platinum?

I will register the domain with Reg-123 for 2 years at £5.99 and go with the email on liquidsix?

Cheers
#34
goss.man
Does that mean the contact form would send an email from their email address or it would automatically send an email to me using its own email address?

The idea is it doesnt have to use the clients email facility, they fill in an online form and press submit and then somehow it gets to us.


it doesn't use any email address to send. you can either use the scripts provided by velnet in their cgibin or you can use frontpage server extensions. the end-user simply fills in the form (you can ask them to provide their email address for reply purposes) clicks submit and either the script or fp does the rest. its fully configurable to what email its sent to and what fields etc are included in the message. you can even add user details such as browser used, ip address etc for your own statistical analsyis if you wanted to.

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