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6y, 1w agoPosted 6 years, 1 week ago
ok so i been looking at the sleeve op...looks really good...... but my Personal trainer has talked me out of it and told me to really ry lose weight the normal way ..so im gonna try do that otherwsie i am thinking of going for the gastric sleeve. i have an appt with my GP booked for tips/advice/possible surgeons hed suggest etc.

most of the stuff on the net is like WOW its amazing having it done so makes me feel like yes defo what i wana do...its a new technique and looks prety good as it sorta cuts stomach lengthways so u still get all the absorption of food and vitamins etc.....so its better than a byapass and the band i cant see the point of...its not that effective by net reviews and why would u wana take it out and have adjustments all the time.

so anyways like im saying....im not doing anything now...gonna try shift it normally but wm considering it....at mo am doing research on it...one thing that i came across was that u never hear about ppl who had weight loss surgery 10years plus talking about it...why is that...is it because theres been a prob. i wana know long term effects/.results...so does anyone know anyone or can let me know whats it like long term

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#1
I think weight loss surgery is all wrong, you put the food in your mouth, then you should put the effort in to lose it, I bet most people who have the surgery just pile the weight back on again. My weight went up to 16 stone because I was a greedy pig and drunk for England (I'm not one of these people who say well it can't be what I eat, or I look at a cake and put on 5 lbs !!), but a lot of hard work at the gym and a change of life style eating wise and I've shed over 2 stone and trust me if I can anyone can.
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The reality of it is weight loss is a lifestyle change and that can't just be fixed by an operation, you need to be disciplined with diet etc. Most likely there aren't many success stories 10 years on cos the people in question have just gone back to their old ways and therefore gastric bands etc then become ineffective.

I know the gym is tough brah but keep it up!
#3
im aware of what needs to be done to lose weight......this is the easy option i know....i am just trying to find out if anyone knows anyone who had WLS post 10yrs. thanks
#4
trust me my PT went mad on me saying i was an idiot for wanting to do it..i had a hosp appt ydy to go to (one place sent it for same day i enquired!) so i have been lectured and all and she conviced me to give it a real go..gave a few tips on the metality front..so am trying them....but its still appealing to me...im jsut worried about the long term effects..im struggling to find that on the net.
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I don't think you'll find much on the long term effects of the sleeve as it's a very new procedure. My mum had something done, but I dont' know what. It was dramatically effective, as in she went from a 30+ size to a 14 in less then two years afterwards. However, she never had the willpower to diet, still eats the wrong stuff and can still only eat tiny meals throughout the day. If she eats too much in one sitting, she 'overflows' and it's not pretty... She's happy because whatever is was she had done (and she doesn't talk about it with any of us - a combination of embarrassment and knowing we would never have let her go through with it!) has removed her need for will-power. She simply can't eat too much anymore, without throwing it all back up. She can continue to eat what she likes (crap) but in tiny proportions. From what I understand of it, the sleeve is for massively overweight people, and it's just the first in a stage of operations to reduce the weight. I think if you're already going to the gym and your PT has advised against it, you're probably not big enough for that particular surgery... I think you're going the right way... just keep at it! Less intake, more output, get there naturally. I'm interested to know how big you are... or how big you think you are anyway... lots of people seem to think they are much bigger than they really are, (though I also know some women who still think they are stick thin, and really aren't!!) My mum (since losing enormous amounts of weight) has had to have skin removal surgery (belly!) and is now the wrinkliest thing, from having a nice fat face with smoothed out skin, to loads of prestretched skin on a bony face...
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#7
jellybaby22
MB its not a magic fix... my mums friend had a gastric band fitted..she lots tons of weight... but still finds it a struggle not to overeat..and imo she is still fat...:|.. thats sounds awful..but its not the cure they make out it is...

I lost 4 stone 2 years ago..it was hard work..and I have put 1 and a half back on ( damn being pregnant ... thats my excuse... its really donuts... :p ) its hard work but worth doing it the right way and hopefully keeping it off


Sounds like what my mum must've had then. I piled weight on when pregnant too (three babies, three years) but I've got enormous will power and just cut out everything I didn't need - sugar in my tea, butter on my sarnies, cut out and cut down. Not the best way to do it, but I was losing in excess of 1kg per week. I also worked out pretty much as hard as I could, whilst being at home with children. I always gave myself 6 month post breast-feeding though, for my body to recover, or at least start to. And in that time, I would eat what I felt I wanted. Now I'm back in pre-baby jeans (yay!!!) and can go back to eating and drinking normally. I do keep up the excercise though, walking when I can and running round after children... :)
#8
thanks ladies...... i do appreciate those insights into ppl u know who have had it done.

there is a woman at school who had the band 2 yrs ago and she still is big....i saw her ydy (analysed her close up!) and she is slimmer but not slim.iykwim...which puts me off the band... i have heard there is a lot of weight loss but reading some forums and looks lik 7+ yrs down the line...ppl start putting weight back on even with the bypas....which is scary....

hmm....penny sadly i am ok to have the gastric sleeve....u r right its a new procedure so wont find any long termers on it.... im trying to up the willpower by thinking of all the lovely clothes i can buy.... its worth a shot!

oh and had to cacnel my appt with doc today..J isnt well so i swapped her to be seen instead.

will carry on researching but for next few months will give it a good push
#9
Healthy eating and exercise is the best way to lose weight. Anyone who sets they can't do it this way either must have a medical problem or just a lack of will power. I lost 4 stone easily doing weight watchers points and lots of walking.
banned 1 Like #10
Here's an idea: Don't eat so much rubbish and exercise more.
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DJ1
Here's an idea: Don't eat so much rubbish and exercise more.


omg....wow.
u should write a book.
#12
stewby
Healthy eating and exercise is the best way to lose weight. Anyone who sets they can't do it this way either must have a medical problem or just a lack of will power. I lost 4 stone easily doing weight watchers points and lots of walking.


yes WW is good.....

done ww, SW, hypnosis, homeopathy tabs, currently with personal trainer nd metabolic typing amongst other things like not eating after a certain time bla bla. i lose weight but fall off the wagon very quickly. i have no willpower., i will admitt it..i am looking for easy option...as long as there isnt too many scary side effects.

anyways congrats on ur 4stone loss. thats impressive
#13
If you don't mind me asking MB how overweight are you? How tall are you, how much do you weigh?
#14
Lilly_White
If you don't mind me asking MB how overweight are you? How tall are you, how much do you weigh?


haha...no!! :p

PT text me today...am boiling me brocolli to go with my cicken.....yummy!
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magicbeans
Lilly_White
If you don't mind me asking MB how overweight are you? How tall are you, how much do you weigh?


haha...no!! :p

PT text me today...am boiling me brocolli to go with my cicken.....yummy!


OK i WAS 30 stone, currently at 21 stone, I can say the following with some authority.

1.) while your still ashamed to tell anyone what you weight you aren't ready to lose weight.
2.) you are looking for a "quick easy" way to lose weight that doesn't make YOU change your **** attitude to food and diet and exercise
3.) you think losing weight is some magic trick that won't work for you
4.) you make excuses for being overweight (Oh I'm big boned) OR (I've tried them all and they don't work)

Truth is your PT is right, not only is weight loss a CHOICE it's one you NEED TO WANT!!!

Calories in V Calories out is all it's about ONCE you admit that YOU have the issue for whatever reason.

I'm almost 50, I cycle regularly now, I don't run or jog, I do go to the gym and do weights or cardio 3 times a week for a MINIMUM of an hour. My resting heart rate is 52 (for my age that's close to athlete level) and I can run up 8 flights of stairs and recover in less than 5 minutes (try it sometime)

Yes I'm still obese BUT as my Dr is oft to remind me "I'm the fittest fat guy he knows"

Having an operation is really NOT the right way and neither is starving yourself. I will tell you I was eating 1600 calories a day and stopped losing weight, my PT (who i ONLY see monthly for weigh ins) told me to stop being a **** and up my calorie content to 2100 a day and the weight started dropping off again :P
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Why do people bother with all these nonsensical ideas, just eat more fruit and veg, cut out a large proportion of the rubbish you eat, go for a 45 min walk every day, and maybe do a bit of exercise at home...why is that so hard to manage, seriously what am I missing?
#17
pontprennau

wow....thats really wow. obviously on ur way to 30stones u must have dieted etc and then failed, how comes this time u just did it and managed to lose 9 stones?
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Well I had hypothyroidism along the way which totally screwed my metabolism (along with most other aspects of who I was).

But seriously I made excuse after excuse after excuse about it over the years and then yo-yo'd trying to do it fast, slow, atkins, you name it I tried it... all the time denying what the issue was or that it was MY RESPONSIBILITY to resolve it. Hence what I mean by laziness, not laziness with exercise BUT looking for "that quick fix" or "that quick diet" or "that stomach operation"

YOU...yes YOU can do it if YOU want to do it and only YOU can make it work (**** now I sound like Tony bloody Robbins doing an inspirational talk).

When you have the balls to say how tall you are, how much you weight, what size your waist is and admit that your ass looks HUGE in everything your at a point ready to start losing weight.

But a pedometer (no I don't own one and have no plans to buy one BUT people who do use them religiously walk an extra 2000 steps a day (medically proven somewhere I read it within the past 2 weeks)

Learn what your body needs (not what you THINK it craves) and drink LOADS of water, I mean LOADS AND LOADS of it. do NOT drink ANY fizzy drink (the diet ones will spike your blood sugar making you REALLY hungry) do NOT drink caffeine unless you enjoy feeling weird and hungry all the time.

walk EVERYWHERE, when you catch a bus get off 2-3 stops early and WALK, the more you do it the more you want to do it the easier it gets, the weight starts melting and BANG your suddenly seeing results and are motivated. I bought a pushbike, i'm almost 50 and hadnt ridden one since i was 15, i love it:) I bought a hybrid and love to cycle (damn cold lately mind!!!)

If your too ashamed to post stats here then PM to me and I'll help you all I can "IF" you want to be helped, I can say that anyone looking for a quick fix and not assuming responsibility is on a road to nowhere.

I eat junk food..... yeah I do, just not all the time but when I do fancy it I go to burger king and have a "cheeseburger king deal" no drink, costs 1.99 and is 500 or so calories, you eat it and think "omg that was nothing" BUT it is 500 calories, it IS enough and thats where loads of people go wrong, they just have no clue how many calories something is or how many they need.

eat too little your body goes into starvation mode so when you do eat your body INSTANTLY stores it as fat....rinse repeat....rinse repeat (yo-yo)

ALWAYS eat breakfast!!! ALWAYS

eat lunch!!!!

eat dinner!!!!

eat supper!!!

forget weightwatchers and their crappy points. count calories and work from there.

PM me with stats and ill shoot some figures back at you.

You can be one of those idiots who has gastric surgery and loses weight "for a while" or you can REALLY learn the secret of how to lose weight and kick yourself for taking so damn long to realise something that REALLY is so simple:P
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mb one thing i did is eat smaller meals its so hard not to pile your plate but i would just ignore the hunger and drink hot drinks,eventually my body got used to eating small portions
will power is hard,but i dont like to give in,the first week or 2 is hard but it does get easier and when people start to notice the weight loss it gives u a boost to carry on.
good luck x
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My mum's two best friends (one of which was very overweight) went and had 'Gastric band hypnosis' where they were hypnotised into thinking they had had the operation. My mum was laughing about it...she isn't now they have lost over 10st between them and are nearly as thin as her now!!! Evidentally the other people on the course have all lost huge amounts of weight as well!
#21
pontprennau thanks sounds very solid but i wont PM ur details..i really dont wana..... my PT knows and thats enough for me! iagree..its gotta be a realisation and thats ewhat my homework for the week is..to be more positive and less negative...so i am trying...thanks though..really good to read such a positive story

ed u did so well on ur weight loss as well.... so these things can be done huh.

wow chunky pretty awesome..i have had hypnjosis for weight loss.... sadly did nothing. so im not so keen on gastric ban hypnosis..... but wow to ur mums friends and mum...they did well!
#22
Gastric bad is temporarily fixing a problem, but not solving the source of the problem.

For example, your carpets get terribly dirty, easy solution, replace them. But to stop them getting dirty, to solve the solution, you have to hoover them everyday. Or laundry, replacing dirty clothes, instead of taking time to wash them.

You will lose some weight, but that may or may not even get you down to your preferred weight. And then after that, it will all slowly come back, until you're at the same stage again.
#23
magicbeans
pontprennau thanks sounds very solid but i wont PM ur details.


Because you're sooo ashamed.... not ashamed enough to actually do something about it ofc apart from look for ANOTHER easy way out (surgery, diet whatever)

i'd say good luck but really it isnt about luck its about admitting you dont much like where your at and THEN doing something about it.

your PAID PT (you do pay them right) knows this and would prefer you to just keep giving them money :)

instead of relying on others who your paying go and LEARN something about nutrition, its your body and your life !!!
#24
peodude
Gastric bad is temporarily fixing a problem, but not solving the source of the problem.

For example, your carpets get terribly dirty, easy solution, replace them. But to stop them getting dirty, to solve the solution, you have to hoover them everyday. Or laundry, replacing dirty clothes, instead of taking time to wash them.

You will lose some weight, but that may or may not even get you down to your preferred weight. And then after that, it will all slowly come back, until you're at the same stage again.


i like that analogy.....but im at the stage where id like new carpets! and hope to keep them clean...anyways am less for it then i was ydy.....read one forum for WLS long temers and some of them are strugling with weight gain..which is scar to read
#25
pontprennau
magicbeans
pontprennau thanks sounds very solid but i wont PM ur details.


Because you're sooo ashamed.... not ashamed enough to actually do something about it ofc apart from look for ANOTHER easy way out (surgery, diet whatever)

i'd say good luck but really it isnt about luck its about admitting you dont much like where your at and THEN doing something about it.

your PAID PT (you do pay them right) knows this and would prefer you to just keep giving them money :)

instead of relying on others who your paying go and LEARN something about nutrition, its your body and your life !!!


haha...... i see where u are coming from but i really wouldnt wana say my weight and what not on the internet...its a lot..i mean not 20stone loads or anything but i wouldnt ever wana get to that and i fear if i dont do something drastic i might end up that way. however, i am gonna give weight loss the normal way a serious shot and am trying to do it mentaly as well this time.

did u publish ur weight on the net before going for the diet?
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I would be wary of any major surgery, especially if you have children - if anything goes wrong, and sometimes it does, it would be beyond awful for you, the children and your OH.
If I needed to, I would take the option of doing it naturally and having my children in mind, I wouldn't risk a major surgery, general anaesthetic and long recovery time. Plus being overweight has more risks to it.
Good luck whatever you decide.
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Two other things, it's all well and good restricting your appetite, but what happens on the special occasions that you do want to pig out, like parties, or Christmas? You can't, because you have restricted yourself.

The other thing is Mother Nature. Your body has evolved over the years to suit the human life. A device restricting food entry into the stomach is not natural, the stomach works perfectly well as it is, who knows what's happening when you start messing with it?
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You do what YOU want to do , whats best for you. Its your body and your life. However you choose to lose weigh is your choice. Well done on taking the steps to do something about it.
I always get stick for the diet im on and i dont care. Ive lost 2 and a half stone in 7 weeks.. and keeping it off. I feel fantastic. I have lovely clear skin, very soft, feel and look fab.
I chose my way of getting rid of weight , you do what you feel best.
Good luck on whatever you decide. x
1 Like #29
Listen to your personal trainer. You're paying him/her to help you get fit, make the most of their expertise. If you're not morbidly obese (which you've confirmed you're not), then you don't need surgery. Having "no willpower" is a cop out - every one has it in them to lose weight if they want to.
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magicbeans

haha...... i see where u are coming from but i really wouldnt wana say my weight and what not on the internet...its a lot..i mean not 20stone loads or anything but i wouldnt ever wana get to that and i fear if i dont do something drastic i might end up that way. however, i am gonna give weight loss the normal way a serious shot and am trying to do it mentaly as well this time.

did u publish ur weight on the net before going for the diet?


If it isn't 20 stone then it isn't a lot.

let me give you an analogy. I don't know ONE alcoholic who will admit he's an alcoholic UNTIL he's ready to fix himself.... when you are ready to say what you weigh and face the consequences of OMG SOMEONE ELSE KNOWS you will be in a much better place.

IF you stop looking for "drastic" fixes and face up to what is going on you have taken the first step :)

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