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Russia’s millennials may be the country’s last generation of cigarette smokers. If a proposal introduced by the Health Ministry is adopted, Russia will ban the sale of cigarettes to people born in 201… Read More
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3m, 1w agoPosted 3 months, 1 week ago
Russia’s millennials may be the country’s last generation of cigarette smokers. If a proposal introduced by the Health Ministry is adopted, Russia will ban the sale of cigarettes to people born in 2015 and after.

Tobacco kills about six million people globally each year, according to the World Health Organization, and 300,000 to 400,000 of them are Russians.

About 33 percent of Russian adults use tobacco products.

President Vladimir V. Putin, a nonsmoker, has stepped up efforts to curb smoking in recent years. In 2013, he signed a law that banned smoking in most public places, raised taxes on tobacco products and banned the sale of them at street kiosks.

The efforts have had an impact. The number of children aged 13 to 15 who smoke declined to 9.3 percent in 2015 from 25.4 percent in 2004, according to the Health Ministry.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/world/europe/russia-smoking-cigarettes.html?_r=0

Under the new proposal, employees who smoke will have to work longer hours to compensate for smoking breaks, and taxes will be increased on both tobacco and e-cigarettes.

Marina Gambaryan, a senior researcher at the state-run National Research Center for Preventive Medicine, told the TASS news agency that by 2033 the ban on tobacco sales “will not be seen as an emergency measure, but as a logical step.”

Other countries have had mixed success in persuading their citizens to kick the habit.

Ireland in 2004 became the first country to confront the effects of secondhand smoke and ban smoking in workplaces. Tobacco manufacturers and some political leaders thought it would be unenforceable. Within a month, according to Ireland’s Health Ministry, there was near total compliance, including thousands of pubs, and the law gained wide acceptance. Ireland’s ban prompted dozens of other countries to adopt similar laws.
3 Likes #2
No ban on alcohol though?
1 Like #3
reddeviluk
No ban on alcohol though?
is alcohol bad for you?
https://i.imgflip.com/nwtls.jpg
#4
Russia - where smoking is less lethal than being a journalist who criticises Putin.
#6


Looks legit
banned 1 Like #7
Seems a very sensible way to introduce a ban.

We should do the same.

Anyone born after 2018 cant smoke.... Simples..
1 Like #8
I don't mind if people smoke; it's when they spontaneously combust that bothers me.
#9
Love it. Wish we had the balls to do that here. Reduce the strain on the NHS.
1 Like #10
If you ban smoking you should ban alcohol, how many people die through alcohol, health related issues, drink driving, fights etc, for the record I don't smoke and I do like a drink.
1 Like #11
Drugs are banned here and that's working really well!
#12
Must remember to remove tabs from the shopping list when little Vladimir goes down the offy for the vodka and caviar.
#13
But then how will anyone look cool?
#14
Vanderlust
Love it. Wish we had the balls to do that here. Reduce the strain on the NHS.

You will start the smokers off with that comment.

Couldn't see it working here the MPs would lose a fortune from the tobacco lobbies. Need to do something about e cigarettes first and the "water" some of those product is ridiculous.
1 Like #15
bigbaz
If you ban smoking you should ban alcohol, how many people die through alcohol, health related issues, drink driving, fights etc, for the record I don't smoke and I do like a drink.
and cars
2 Likes #16
What is with all this banning things you dont like ? ( not op personally)
I dont smoke but support any other adult who wishes to make that descision. Keep it away from public venues etc, out of homes with kids and so on. If its not directly affecting others , let them be.
#17
Denbi
What is with all this banning things you dont like ? ( not op personally)
I dont smoke but support any other adult who wishes to make that descision. Keep it away from public venues etc, out of homes with kids and so on. If its not directly affecting others , let them be.
lots of things are banned, it has been the case for a long time, cocaine was legal before the damaging effects were understood and discussed.
1 Like #18
Good on Russia, hopefully more countries take this up.
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davewave
Denbi
What is with all this banning things you dont like ? ( not op personally)
I dont smoke but support any other adult who wishes to make that descision. Keep it away from public venues etc, out of homes with kids and so on. If its not directly affecting others , let them be.
lots of things are banned, it has been the case for a long time, cocaine was legal before the damaging effects were understood and discussed.
Most drugs are banned regardless of whether they actually should be or not. (other than one of the most harm full in every aspect ). If sombody wants to smoke then its ultimatly themselvers who gets harmed. Ok it may lead to NHS costs but so do many other legal things. It seems that the fact that humans are sentiant beings that should be able to make their own choices is being constantly being abused by others. Regardless of the effects or not on others. Obviously we have to conform to certain rules to have a working society, but this sort of thing isnt required.
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Nightshift working knocks years off your life let's ban than while we are at it.
#21
Denbi
davewave
Denbi
What is with all this banning things you dont like ? ( not op personally)
I dont smoke but support any other adult who wishes to make that descision. Keep it away from public venues etc, out of homes with kids and so on. If its not directly affecting others , let them be.
lots of things are banned, it has been the case for a long time, cocaine was legal before the damaging effects were understood and discussed.
Most drugs are banned regardless of whether they actually should be or not. (other than one of the most harm full in every aspect ). If sombody wants to smoke then its ultimatly themselvers who gets harmed. Ok it may lead to NHS costs but so do many other legal things. It seems that the fact that humans are sentiant beings that should be able to make their own choices is being constantly being abused by others. Regardless of the effects or not on others. Obviously we have to conform to certain rules to have a working society, but this sort of thing isnt required.


incorrect.
http://www.drugwise.org.uk/what-are-the-uk-drug-laws/
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davewave
bigbaz
If you ban smoking you should ban alcohol, how many people die through alcohol, health related issues, drink driving, fights etc, for the record I don't smoke and I do like a drink.
and cars


Deaths from RTCs in this country are nothing compared to alcohol and smoking related deaths.
#23
peeej1978
davewave
bigbaz
If you ban smoking you should ban alcohol, how many people die through alcohol, health related issues, drink driving, fights etc, for the record I don't smoke and I do like a drink.
and cars


Deaths from RTCs in this country are nothing compared to alcohol and smoking related deaths.


shocking.
#24
davewave
Denbi
davewave
Denbi
What is with all this banning things you dont like ? ( not op personally)
I dont smoke but support any other adult who wishes to make that descision. Keep it away from public venues etc, out of homes with kids and so on. If its not directly affecting others , let them be.
lots of things are banned, it has been the case for a long time, cocaine was legal before the damaging effects were understood and discussed.
Most drugs are banned regardless of whether they actually should be or not. (other than one of the most harm full in every aspect ). If sombody wants to smoke then its ultimatly themselvers who gets harmed. Ok it may lead to NHS costs but so do many other legal things. It seems that the fact that humans are sentiant beings that should be able to make their own choices is being constantly being abused by others. Regardless of the effects or not on others. Obviously we have to conform to certain rules to have a working society, but this sort of thing isnt required.
incorrect.http://www.drugwise.org.uk/what-are-the-uk-drug-laws/
Ok, controlled or banned. Either way made inaccessable to anybody other than illegal methods. Another place to get evidence based info Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs
I agree drugs are harmfull, but to differant degrees.
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Ok that probably doesnt help me but im sticking to opinion....

Edited By: Denbi on Jan 17, 2017 20:04
banned#25
Russians, vodka, sauna and being whipped after with branches of a tree (I kid you not!), swimming in frozen lakes naked after, girls, ****, and smoking kind of go together. Now, even without the smoking they still live colourful lives !
#26
From a governmental point of view I don't understand. Smokers are cheaper than a useless ageing population requiring costly care into one hundred years plus. Yes the short term cost of treating the cancer sticks are costly but in the long run... We need fatties, alkies and smokers.
#27
peanuted
From a governmental point of view I don't understand. Smokers are cheaper than a useless ageing population requiring costly care into one hundred years plus. Yes the short term cost of treating the cancer sticks are costly but in the long run... We need fatties, alkies and smokers.


Putin is just a caring kind of guy.
#28
Smoking is just a remnant of being taken off the breast to early by Women who do not want saggy breasts :D
#29
Smoking was great for keeping inflation low, people were wasting around £100 a week smoking instead of buying consumer goods etc.
#30
Glamwampam
Smoking is just a remnant of being taken off the breast to early by Women who do not want saggy breasts :D


very unusual theory.
banned#31
davewave
Glamwampam
Smoking is just a remnant of being taken off the breast to early by Women who do not want saggy breasts :D


very unusual theory.


You mean people smoke for much the same reason babies use a dummy? Breast replacement therapy for adults?
banned#32
POWYSWALES
Smoking was great for keeping inflation low, people were wasting around £100 a week smoking instead of buying consumer goods etc.


Don't forget the tax revenue !
#33
smiler594
davewave
Glamwampam
Smoking is just a remnant of being taken off the breast to early by Women who do not want saggy breasts :D


very unusual theory.


You mean people smoke for much the same reason babies use a dummy? Breast replacement therapy for adults?


i don't know mate...I didn't say it.

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