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What do you think about gangs and the joint venture law?

realfriendlyman Avatar
7y, 11h agoPosted 7 years, 11 hours ago
There's unfortunately areas that kids have no choice but to join gangs in order to feel protected, rather than go it alone and be bullied every time they walk out their front door.

Joint venture also means they can't back out of certain issues, even if they don't participate but these kids are also taught that if they stab or kill anyone, they'll be out in no time.

What does everyone think about this and should the laws be changed to fit the modern world?
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7y, 11h agoPosted 7 years, 11 hours ago
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#1
That’s social injustices for ya! I think that it is terrible that kids are pressured by their so called ‘friends’ to do these silly things, ruing their own, and others, lives.

While the gang 'leaders' sit their doing no dirty work, because the local 10 year old will do it for them! The crime and the sentence! Cowards!
#2
Maybe the laws should start punishing the crimes...

Just a thought.
banned#3
no sympathy coming from me
banned 1 Like #4
well in 15 and live in east london and i think people joining gangs is nonsense
why do you have to care about street rep or respect
i think these people are just dum chavs and have no respect for any sensible people
i try my best to stay as far away frm it as i can
#5
dcx_badass
I think it's the kids fault for joining the gang.


What would you do if you were presented with the choice of joining or harassed and abused for the whole time you live there? In a place where you can not afford to get out of.
#6
I agree that peer pressure and a desire to belong can coerce people, young or old, to participate in activities that they wouldn't normally, but that is no excuse. It wasn't for Nazi germany and it isn't for today's youth.

Every generation has had gangs with male and females members and territorial battles will always exist regardless of inclusion policies.

I was in a gang and the biggest hiding i got was from my father when he found out. That was enough for me. But what i noticed was that generally few got hurt and we were all gang members. More and more we hear of gangs attacking easy targets with increasing brutality and with those not physically engaged encouring the attackers both verbally and through their inactivity.

In Glasgow we have a huge knife problem and imho only mandatory prison terms will deter many, although there will always be those who will remain armed regardless.

We also have to look at our prison system. My brother is currenly in HMP Barlinnie for serious assault with recommendations that he receive anger management therapy. Yet all he does is sit in his cell, watch Sky or go to the gym. How is he being either punished or rehabilitated?
#7
dcx_badass
I think it's the kids fault for joining the gang.


I agree to an extent but with the way gangs are deemed as exciting and glamourous and not being a part of it would mean they're then vulnerable to any action and become easy targets.

You also have to bare in mind that kids minds aren't as developed as much as some of ours (had to say "some" for the sake of some of immature people on here lol) so they can't comprehend how it could effect there future.

There was also a case where a little kid was bullied and informed he'll be robbed every time he's seen, purely because he's not part of any of the local gangs, so now the kid is scared to leave his house.
#8
safx41
well in 15 and live in east london and i think people joining gangs is nonsense
why do you have to care about street rep or respect
i think these people are just dum chavs and have no respect for any sensible people
i try my best to stay as far away frm it as i can


:thumbsup: well done you ...obviously brought up well and have good friends
#9
safx41
well in 15 and live in east london and i think people joining gangs is nonsense
why do you have to care about street rep or respect
i think these people are just dum chavs and have no respect for any sensible people
i try my best to stay as far away frm it as i can


East London is becoming quite notorious for it....especially since it has more deprived areas than the north and the west but I know someone who is literally in between a couple gangs from each corner of his street, so he literally can't walk out of his front door if he's not involved.

Only last week did someone try to shoot him in a driveby but he feels he can't leave the gang, even though he's already made the request....so how should he get out of this dilemma?
#10
realfriendlyman
East London is becoming quite notorious for it....especially since it has more deprived areas than the north and the west but I know someone who is literally in between a couple gangs from each corner of his street, so he literally can't walk out of his front door if he's not involved.

Only last week did someone try to shoot him in a driveby but he feels he can't leave the gang, even though he's already made the request....so how should he get out of this dilemma?


so he is a footsoldier...would they really miss him or notice if he just walked away and stayed away from them , or would they hunt him down ? ....gangs are just bullies manipulating the vulnerable ...how many kids must they have in their grip like this?
#11
queenlush
so he is a footsoldier...would they really miss him or notice if he just walked away and stayed away from them , or would they hunt him down ? ....gangs are just bullies manipulating the vulnerable ...how many kids must they have in their grip like this?


I doubt they'd miss him but it would mean he's no longer protected and with the local gangs constantly crossing over, it would mean he would never be able to walk out his house to walk his dog, see his friends or even go to school.
#12
dcx_badass
I think it's the kids fault for joining the gang.


Me neither. They want respect? earn it in the real world.

They could get these gang members into the forces and of the streets. The police have their hands tied too. And as for the court system in this country!! What a joke.

I was brought up in some th toughest streets west of Scotland and they had plenty gangs then too................But you didn't need to join any gang..............:viking:

They should bring back national service...........

Here we go!! That should stir things up! Oh you canny do this and you canny say this .....god forbid!!

renagade27
#13
realfriendlyman
I doubt they'd miss him but it would mean he's no longer protected and with the local gangs constantly crossing over, it would mean he would never be able to walk out his house to walk his dog, see his friends or even go to school.


That's really sad and scary...but would they hunt him down forever or just give up on him after a bit and move onto the next scared kid?..i'm glad mine are grown up now
#14
queenlush
That's really sad and scary...but would they hunt him down forever or just give up on him after a bit and move onto the next scared kid?..i'm glad mine are grown up now


I dunno, but he's scared he'd live long enough, as they're always packing (carrying knives or guns) so he's an easy target with no shield around him if he steps out of what he believes is his only chance.
banned#15
well in 15 and live in east london and i think people joining gangs is nonsense
why do you have to care about street rep or respect
i think these people are just dum chavs and have no respect for any sensible people
i try my best to stay as far away frm it as i can



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