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ryouga Avatar
9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
Police chiefs have accused parents of being naive and complacent about the widespread use of cannabis among teenagers.

The Association of Chief Police Officers said adults did not understand that new, more potent forms of the drug were available, and harming young people.

The body was speaking out after a mother was sentenced this week for giving her children cannabis to stop them buying the drug from street dealers.

Assistant Chief Constable Simon Burne said: 'I think frankly there is a group of parents that are complacent and turn a blind eye to drug use in the sense of 'out of sight, out of mind'.

'In turning that blind eye, they are creating a deeper mess because we are worried about the rise in potency of the cannabis that is on the streets.'

Drugs spokesman Mr Burne, from Merseyside Police, said ACPO was reviewing its stance on lobbying for cannabis to be upgraded from a class C drug, but his personal view was that it should become a class B substance, as it was up to five times stronger than in the 1980s.

He said studies showed around one in five teenagers had tried the drug 'as part of their life experience'.

Mr Burne added: 'A key message today is about the harm that cannabis can cause, and the need for better education both for young people and their parents.'
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9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
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#1
Gone are the days when you could sit in a pub and share a spliff with a couple of coppers.
banned#2
Most people who smoked it in their youth and then look back on that time later in life after they have stopped will see the problems it causes which you are unaware of at the time. Paranoid behaviour etc.

One of my best friends ended up in a phsyciatric hospital due to cannabis. He is fine now with a great family. I'm sure when his kids are older he will be honest about his experiences and hopefully stop them going down the same route.

Any mother giving her child illegal drugs is just plain wrong.
#3
I think in reality it's probably more than 'one in five teenagers' who have tried cannabis - possibly when quizzed not everyone wanted to tell the truth!

I tried it in my younger days (many moons ago) but I've seen people who have smoked regularly for years and it's true they really do get a bit paranoid and prone to mood-changes.

I've also seen people selling it in the park to secondary school children at lunchtime when I've been walking the dog. The teachers aren't far away smoking their cigarettes - they never seem that bothered! I'm not sure who's worse the dealers or the people who ignore it. And before anyone asks I have reported it to a friend who is a local Sergeant!
#4
stora
Gone are the days when you could sit in a pub and share a spliff with a couple of coppers.


You haven't been in some of the pubs I was in last night, the community police (or whatever the 'fake' ones are called) are worse than the teenagers!
#5
I dont think an occasional smoke is fine, and I find it more responsible of the parent to control its usage ie buy it for their son/daughter then them going out to dodgy dealers and getting ripped off etc
banned#6
Prissymiss
Most people who smoked it in their youth and then look back on that time later in life after they have stopped will see the problems it causes which you are unaware of at the time. Paranoid behaviour etc.


With the number of MPs that have admitted to it, I'm sure you're correct!:giggle:

Any mother giving her child illegal drugs is just plain wrong.


Parents that are doing anything other than discourage are not fit parents.
banned#7
ryouga
I dont think an occasional smoke is fine, and I find it more responsible of the parent to control its usage ie buy it for their son/daughter then them going out to dodgy dealers and getting ripped off etc


Most dealers of cannabis are just normal average users themselves. Not herion or crack dealers. Totally different type of person.

It is not responsible at all. It is illegal and there is no excuse for a parent to indulge their child to commit what is basically a crime.
#8
There is no way I would go out and buy cannabis or cigarettes for my children

- possibly a beer when they are 18
banned#9
guv
With the number of MPs that have admitted to it, I'm sure you're correct!:giggle:



Parents that are doing anything other than discourage are not fit parents.


Exactly.

We all have done things we shouldn't have. But for a parent to encourage it is wrong. Most would give their children 'the talk' then there isn't much else you can you. Yes the may dabble and hopefully that is it . To help a child make it a lifestyle choice is in effect child abuse.
#10
Prissymiss

One of my best friends ended up in a phsyciatric hospital due to cannabis.

Ditto. Don't recommend it.
banned#11
Max Cady
Ditto. Don't recommend it.



As I said, nobody including himself realised there was a problem.

Hope you are all well and good now x
banned#12
I think its a real hard one for parents, i have done things in my past that i certainly wouldnt want my children doing, im not sure i could turn a blinf eye to anything (far too gobby) but im sure some do it to protect their family as a whole rather than ignore it because they cannot be bothered. At some stage our children mature and move on from our apron ties and we become someone that can only help and advise and have to let go, i would never be happy with my children doing any drugs (although i did) and have and will make sure they know this but im not sure what we can do to stop them other than by their for them, and no im not going to voice any opinion on parents buying the stuff for their kids to stop them getting it on the street because i have not been put in that position and hope i never will be
banned#13
If there was a poll on 'would you supply your child with an illegal substance' I would hope and expect the majority of people would give an absolute NO.
#14
Cannabis is so prevalent, it's easy to get hold of if you want to. I wouldn't know where to go to get Heroin or Coke in my town, but I'm pretty sure I could pop out and come home in 10 mins with a smoke. As Prissy said it's not the same realm as Heroin dealers - I'm not saying Cannabis dealers are lovely people, they are utter s**ts for doing what they do, but you don't have to go the 'bad areas' of town! Parents buying the stuff is just so wrong.
banned#15
Prissymiss
If there was a poll on 'would you supply your child with an illegal substance' I would hope and expect the majority of people would give an absolute NO.

yes i am sure you are right, if only everything in life was so simple as ticking a box
banned#16
sassie
yes i am sure you are right, if only everything in life was so simple as ticking a box


Agreed. But at the end of the day it is never ok as a parent to encourage your child to break the law.

I do not make the laws but I am responsible for my children.
1 Like #17
Im sorry i dont label many people as bad parents as i understand being a parent is hard however im my eyes any parent who buys there child is worthy of my labelling. I CANNOT comprehend how any maternal parent could do this. I go out of my way to instill avoidance to these temptations to my children. I could NEVER be apart of supplying them with the addictions.
Life is testing enough for children growing up why on earth would ANY parent do this. Its beyond comprehension and understanding.
I love my kids and i protect,encourage and teach my kids right from wrong.
Encourage your kids to reach goals,have an education,promote confidence!

Rant over
banned#18
pcnutta
Im sorry i dont label many people as bad parents as i understand being a parent is hard however im my eyes any parent who buys there child is worthy of my labelling. I CANNOT comprehend how any maternal parent could do this. I go out of my way to instill avoidance to these temptations to my children. I could NEVER be apart of supplying them with the addictions.
Life is testing enough for children growing up why on earth would ANY parent do this. Its beyond comprehension and understanding.
I love my kids and i protect,encourage and teach my kids right from wrong.
Encourage your kids to reach goals,have an education,promote confidence!

Rant over



Well done nutta, you bang the drum.:thumbsup:

A responsible parent. If, god forbid, your children ever did anything wrong, then at least you know you did your best to install in them good values.

There are far too many parents who are not accountable for childrens actions.

They are the the first ones to rant.
banned#19
Prissymiss
Agreed. But at the end of the day it is never ok as a parent to encourage your child to break the law.

I do not make the laws but I am responsible for my children.

yes i agree, but as i cannot speak as a mother of an addict i dont feel i can call anyone, and hope i never have to speak as a mother of an addicted child
banned#20
sassie
yes i agree, but as i cannot speak as a mother of an addict i dont feel i can call anyone, and hope i never have to speak as a mother of an addicted child


We are talking about cannabis which is not meant to be addictive although I do not agree. Although, with harder drugs surely getting your child off the drugs with professional help would be a better parental response than helping them feed their habit.
#21
Cannabis is definately addictive! I've seen people that can't go a day without - although they will try and convince you it's out of choice.

People need to remember that they are the boss of the children, not the other way around. Why do people feel they have to kowtow to children nowadays. Children are so empowered, we need to bring back a little respect into their little minds.

Plus, where are the children getting the money from??? Are the parents supplying that also?
banned#22
Prissymiss
We are talking about cannabis which is not meant to be addictive although I do not agree. Although, with harder drugs surely getting your child off the drugs with professional help would be a better parental response than helping them feed their habit.

Any addiction is not good, and as a parent i know that i will never stop feeling resposible for my kids, i will have to let them live their lives but it wont stop me feeling responsible.

Although this thread is about cannabis would it be any different if it was about crack cocaine, no it wouldnt be, like i said im not going to judge those i know naff all about (and dont wish to ever experience) It isnt going to happen but it would be great to hear off those that have actually lived the experience and benefit from those that actually live through it maybe that will help others come through it, i just dont see the point in insulting parents that we dont even know, or is it that some believe these addicts only come from the scum of the earth and aint worth worrying about
banned#23
Not at all, I speak from many years of experience. I have used all the so called party drugs. I was in my late teens when the rave scene came about and the height of the London clubs. Hence my comment about looking back and knowing everything/one wasn't as well as it seemed.

But then I know nothing about the so called 'dirty drugs' (not my wording) i.e. herion and crack.

I speak purely from experience and would be honest with my children and hope that after they found out that their mum had done that, then they would think it un-cool and not bother.
#24
god yeah cannabis is addictive, ive seen people smoke it like people do normal fags! Then they no longer get the feel good factor from it and trying the next step, its a stepping stone to trouble and further addictions...
Sadly alot of people progress to deep.
banned#25
It is so easy for them to blame the parents, the biggest ones for turning a blind eye is the law. I live in a smallish town that is slowly turning into a drug heaven (as im sure most are) i used to feel like i lived ina smallish town but now we have the same problems as major cities (its everywhere). In our town we now have CCTV everywhere, everywhere except the high drug spots, now doesnt that say it all so before the law blames anyone they need to be looking on their own doorstop
banned#26
They definitely need to take a tougher stance. Many areas in this country that used to be classed as nice are pretty much catching of the others.

They are harsher on people who drop litter or oaps refusing to pay their council tax.
banned#27
yes i truely believ they should crack (pardon the pun) down on all crimes, start with the petty crime and work up, unless something is done by the time our children have children there will be no such thing as a life, you will either be part of crime or never able to leave the house.

the dealers drive round in big cars with no job, have plenty of cash and no jobs, they have become almost untouchable by the law so now the law has passed it back to us, laughable really
banned#28
I agree. I feel so sorry for the young children now. Its pretty much becoming a lawless society. And, unless they treat all crimes seriously then it will steadily get worse. Anyone who tries to call the local police station (mine can take up to an hour to get through) will know that they aren't that interested and by the time you speak to anyone, the people you are complaining about have already gone.
#29
sadly i know and understand where your coming from.
Like most jobs whats needed is more staffing and stiffer punishments when people are taken to court.Its the court that makes a mockery out of it.
banned#30
I would love to be able to give my children the same kind of great childhood I experienced.

That we will never get back.
#31
My brother smokes cannabis and so does my uncle. I smoked cannabis regularly about 9 months ago, but later quit, and now i dont smoke at all, and hardly drink.

Sends you paranoid so much, and it used to make me laugh at anything. Ahhh, so funny when i think back.

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