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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
I put an ad on Gumtree to sell an iPhone...got a buyer from Barnsley who's paying the asking price + £5 on top for postage.

He's Paypal verified and has shown me feedback on eBay(sent me a message on there, 25 positive feedback, member for over 6 months and has used the acc recently). I'm posting the phone to the address that's verified on his paypal.

I've taken a note of all his personal contact details and he's paid(the funds are in my Paypal).

Does this sound as if I'm OK to post the phone off ? Don't want to get stung here. If it sounds too risky...then I'm just going to refund his money and say sorry mate sold it here.

Thanks for any replies !
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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#1
sounds really dodgy to me, don't do it, 8)
#2
surely if he makes a dodgy paypal claim you just phone your provider with the imei number and have it blocked?
#3
a bounce back can be done after hte buyer receives the item too....
#4
I wouldn't even bother - cash on collection or BT only. Paypal is too easy to reverse the transaction irrespective of how long, or verified the user is. I have been stung once before, so have vowed to do the above payment methods only! Plus, you won't be covered if things do go wrong.
#5
why did you agree to gum tree then agree to receiving funds and then after the event question whether this is okay?

The funds could be subject to charge back, and you wont be covered in this instance. That's the only thing I could think of. Have you logged in to paypal to check the money is there.
#6
maddogb
surely if he makes a dodgy paypal claim you just phone your provider with the imei number and have it blocked?


Yeah, you can have the phone blocked but it's still worth the money on fleabay....
.... personally i wouldn't and i use gumtree alot
#7
maddogb
surely if he makes a dodgy paypal claim you just phone your provider with the imei number and have it blocked?


no because the item wont be legally his, it will become a civil matter.
#8
stiffnuts
why did you agree to gum tree then agree to receiving funds and then after the event question whether this is okay?

The funds could be subject to charge back, and you wont be covered in this instance. That's the only thing I could think of. Have you logged in to paypal to check the money is there.


I always was a bit wary of it, just wanted some final advice. I was under the impression that if I was verified and adhered to Paypal's rules I'd be covered by their "Seller Protection Policy" as it states in their "Help" section on the website ?
banned#9
make sure its sent using a signed for service.
Not really sure why people are saying don't - as long as you can prove delivery you are pretty safe
#10
maddogb
surely if he makes a dodgy paypal claim you just phone your provider with the imei number and have it blocked?


Yeah..but then I lose out on £280 !

I received a really weird e-mail. The guy says he sent the funds...and I got a confirmation e-mail, but it's not showing in my paypal account.


"from [email protected] " was the sender and on the alleged "invoice" there's details about an iPhone(which I never put on the money request). I think this guy's a scammer...he's been talking to me on GoogleTalk for the past 30 mins and also gave me his home landline / work landline etc. Even answered on his home landline to confirm it was him !

Either he's a very good scammer...or thinks even if he rips me off I won't bother coming down to Barnsley to get my money back lol.
#11
psb07158
maddogb
surely if he makes a dodgy paypal claim you just phone your provider with the imei number and have it blocked?


Yeah..but then I lose out on £280 !

I received a really weird e-mail. The guy says he sent the funds...and I got a confirmation e-mail, but it's not showing in my paypal account.


"from [email protected] " was the sender and on the alleged "invoice" there's details about an iPhone(which I never put on the money request). I think this guy's a scammer...he's been talking to me on GoogleTalk for the past 30 mins and also gave me his home landline / work landline etc. Even answered on his home landline to confirm it was him !

Either he's a very good scammer...or thinks even if he rips me off I won't bother coming down to Barnsley to get my money back lol.


Typical scam, sending fake paypal emails so you think the funds are there but when you log in the money isn't there. Stay clear.
#12
sickly sweet
Typical scam, sending fake paypal emails so you think the funds are there but when you log in the money isn't there. Stay clear.


The weird thing is he keeps saying don't send the phone until the funds are in the account...:s. Is he expecting me to just say oh it's ok I trust you I'll send it anyway lol ?

Achhh, I hate scammers. Some guy had the cheek to come to my door with counterfeit bank notes a few weeks ago as well to buy my Desire. Unbelievable.
#13
psb07158
sickly sweet
Typical scam, sending fake paypal emails so you think the funds are there but when you log in the money isn't there. Stay clear.


The weird thing is he keeps saying don't send the phone until the funds are in the account...:s. Is he expecting me to just say oh it's ok I trust you I'll send it anyway lol ?

Achhh, I hate scammers. Some guy had the cheek to come to my door with counterfeit bank notes a few weeks ago as well to buy my Desire. Unbelievable.


I had a guy pay cash on collection for something I sold on ebay with fake notes, makes you feel like crap eh! It was a family member who didn't check it, but as soon as I saw it I was like 'urrrrm, noooooo we have been conned!!!'. Not sure what I would have done if I had noticed - a big, intimidating chap with fake cash could be a pretty awkward situation.
#14
Look OP this is 100% a SCAM.If the buyer wants the phone he does BT end of.I get this all the time on Gumtree & it's the same people who use Glasgow,Coventry,London etc etc Gumtee's.
#15
try telling him to pay vis credit/debit card to yor o2 money card (this will let you withdraw the cash as soon as you get it) if he say no then no way. Beeen selling stuff on gumtree for a while,it is a joke with the number of scamers all looking to pay via paypal and add extra for postage
banned#16
Dude you need to ask the guy to send you the funds as a "gift", which i believe cannot be reversed. Also get him to right as a note that "i will not be reversing this transaction and if i do then i am scamming you and paypal as you have already fulfilled the service i am paying for" and when you get the email, supposedly from paypal telling you that you have funds, then go to paypals website and log in (note-do not click on any links inside the email, type in paypals website directly in your browser or seach engine) and check manually that the funds are there in your account. If its not then the guy is an opportunist scammer. Cease all communication and dealings with him immediately and report him as phisher/scammer. If its in ur account then it seems as though everything is ok (mind you, you could scam him at this point if you wanted to lol). Failing that ask him to post you the money/Bank Transfer or money order.
#17
Also just in case some of you don't know,But if you sell a item on ebay & the buyer pays with paypal,You should then never allow the buyer to collect item.
& you must only post to his/her's confirmed Address.
#18
Thanks for the advice guys. Sounds like a scammer. Going to delete him from my GoogleTalk list and delete his number from phone then pass him on to Gumtree as a scammer.

Thankfully found another buyer who I'm meeting up with in the City Centre on Wednesday! Cheers.
#19
If you want to sell an Iphone..... I would use ebay as your form of advert, put it on a long listing with a reserve price and advise collection only and cash on collection.

It will sell if you allow enough time, and then do the deal face to face with cash..

Thats what i would do anyway..
#20
WheresMeNuts
Also just in case some of you don't know,But if you sell a item on ebay & the buyer pays with paypal,You should then never allow the buyer to collect item.
& you must only post to his/her's confirmed Address.


Yeah, I didn't know this before but I just read Paypal's "Help" section and they've put that on there as well ! Thanks mate.
#21
RickT
If you want to sell an Iphone..... I would use ebay as your form of advert, put it on a long listing with a reserve price and advise collection only and cash on collection.

It will sell if you allow enough time, and then do the deal face to face with cash..

Thats what i would do anyway..


If this other deal falls through with this person then I might just do that.

Thanks for the advice.
#22
Adnan786
Dude you need to ask the guy to send you the funds as a "gift", which i believe cannot be reversed. Also get him to right as a note that "i will not be reversing this transaction and if i do then i am scamming you and paypal as you have already fulfilled the service i am paying for" and when you get the email, supposedly from paypal telling you that you have funds, then go to paypals website and log in (note-do not click on any links inside the email, type in paypals website directly in your browser or seach engine) and check manually that the funds are there in your account. If its not then the guy is an opportunist scammer. Cease all communication and dealings with him immediately and report him as phisher/scammer. If its in ur account then it seems as though everything is ok (mind you, you could scam him at this point if you wanted to lol). Failing that ask him to post you the money/Bank Transfer or money order.
Wrong...........Even as a Gift if the buyer has stolen the Credit card & paypal details then paypal will make you pay this money back to the original card holder once the guys credit card company contacts paypal.
It's happened to me & that was when i sold a iphone on ebay :-/
#23
On a side note do you guys think a 32GB iPhone 3GS which is in perfect condition, has a case-mate "barely there" protector and screen protector on it with 2 months warranty left for £280 is a reasonable price?
#24
It's not a great price but it is a good price.I see them for around the £300 all the time.
banned#25
WheresMeNuts
Adnan786
Dude you need to ask the guy to send you the funds as a "gift", which i believe cannot be reversed. Also get him to right as a note that "i will not be reversing this transaction and if i do then i am scamming you and paypal as you have already fulfilled the service i am paying for" and when you get the email, supposedly from paypal telling you that you have funds, then go to paypals website and log in (note-do not click on any links inside the email, type in paypals website directly in your browser or seach engine) and check manually that the funds are there in your account. If its not then the guy is an opportunist scammer. Cease all communication and dealings with him immediately and report him as phisher/scammer. If its in ur account then it seems as though everything is ok (mind you, you could scam him at this point if you wanted to lol). Failing that ask him to post you the money/Bank Transfer or money order.
Wrong...........Even as a Gift if the buyer has stolen the Credit card & paypal details then paypal will make you pay this money back to the original card holder once the guys credit card company contacts paypal.It's happened to me & that was when i sold a iphone on ebay :-/

Generally payment as gift isnt supposed to be reversible, but i didnt think of that eventuality.....i guess you're right. Its bang out of order that sellers arnt protected in that case, lioke in ur case, u followed all the rules and u were still out of the money and the product u sold on ebay. That sucks.
#26
Adnan786
Dude you need to ask the guy to send you the funds as a "gift", which i believe cannot be reversed. Also get him to right as a note that "i will not be reversing this transaction and if i do then i am scamming you and paypal as you have already fulfilled the service i am paying for" and when you get the email, supposedly from paypal telling you that you have funds, then go to paypals website and log in (note-do not click on any links inside the email, type in paypals website directly in your browser or seach engine) and check manually that the funds are there in your account. If its not then the guy is an opportunist scammer. Cease all communication and dealings with him immediately and report him as phisher/scammer. If its in ur account then it seems as though everything is ok (mind you, you could scam him at this point if you wanted to lol). Failing that ask him to post you the money/Bank Transfer or money order.


Unfortunately that's not right, I had a paypal gift payment reversed by a buyers bank recently from something I sold on here. I phoned the buyer straight away, and turns out it was a mistake made by the bank and the buyer put the payment through again, I was lucky.
banned#27
Seems to me that paypal can potentially ruin you.
#28
Yes 9 of us got scammed & paypal told us all to pay the money back.I closed my accounty & only use my sisters paypal account now.The funny thing was that the guy who scammed got caught because a seller took note of his car plate & 4 weeks after the 9 sales, paypal told us the credit card company say they have a customer who has had his credit card stolen & are looking for full refund.We all know paypal don't mess with the banks & so they wanted the money.The Scammer was not even charged because the Credit card,Paypal & the so-called honest guy never reported a crime WTF.I was at the Police station & they told me they had to let him go.
#29
Never sell anything on Gumtree with Paypal payments, you may as well give your item to charity same end result you get nothing back. Sold a designer bag similar situation communication via ebay, verified PayPal account then found out both accounts were so called used fraudulently without the owners permission. Never got anything back and the recipient got a lovely bag.

Edited By: simplyjimbo on Dec 20, 2010 23:54

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