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A pregnant woman has lost her baby after she was kicked and fell to the floor in a "racially aggravated" attack. The 34 year old was shopping in Bletchley, Milton Keynes, when she was racially insult… Read More
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A pregnant woman has lost her baby after she was kicked and fell to the floor in a "racially aggravated" attack.
The 34 year old was shopping in Bletchley, Milton Keynes, when she was racially insulted by a man, police said. He later followed her and kicked her in the torso, causing her to fall.
He also hit a male victim on the head with a bag of ice and a bottle.
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other murders get committed as well though.

white English male

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37358681
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YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent

Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
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Threads like this achieve nothing other than pushing a skewed perception of reality.

This crime is a tragedy but listing a single case and trying to infer that this country is full of muslim or black bashing racists achieves nothing other than stirring up racial hatred and division.

I have plenty of ethnic minority friends, many of which are far less PC or tolerant than their white counterparts and citing a one off example on a public forum in the way you do will do nothing other than causing tensions and is a reason why you never see headlines to the effect of 'black on white crime' or Syrian refugee rapes.. despite on a pro rata basis there are various more examples to support claims contrary to your white racist opinion.. Race crime in the UK

Poor education standard, low job prospects and a large influx of poorly integrated ethnic groups do not help in this regard for any side so I can only hope a controlled immigration policy and addressing integrating these groups (many of which have conflicting belief sets) can be addressed by a brave government.

The country is not full of racist Brexiteers which I am inferring is where this thread was intended to be pushed.



Edited By: john184 on Sep 15, 2016 01:54

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4 Likes #1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-37352942

A woman losing a baby after a racially aggravated attack, a politician murdered in broad daylight by a person screaming nationalist language and a Polish national murdered in Essex.

This isn't the Britain I am proud of. It's barely one I recognise.
7 Likes #2
other murders get committed as well though.

white English male

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37358681
4 Likes #3
This country is a disgrace getting. I read the article on Yahoo earlier today. What will the world be like when kids are grown up? Doesn't bear thinking about?
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Treboeth
other murders get committed as well though.

white English male

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37358681

Clearly other crime is still committed and that leads to deaths, but these are crimes/murders based on the colour of someone's skin or their nationality or their politics.

FYI Jo Cox was white too if that matters. Not sure it's a case of even Stevens that I was looking for.
4 Likes #5
So why the focus on a racially motivated murder and not just a general post about murder ?

Is this because of Brexit do you think?
3 Likes #6
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
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shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.

No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
2 Likes #8
Treboeth
So why the focus on a racially motivated murder and not just a general post about murder ?
Is this because of Brexit do you think?

Because these all seem linked to a sentiment that I don't think I've felt before in my lifetime. I was born when things like the National Front and the IRA were beginning to disappear, but now we seem to returning to some of these ideas.

The country seems more divided than at any time in my lifetime, yet I've heard more racist/xenophobic things uttered in public in the last 4 months than I have for quite a while. We seem to have emboldened something that I would call deplorable and I think it's only going to get worse.

Whether Brexit was the catalyst or (in my opinion) the result of that is for people to decide for themselves.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Clearly other crime is still committed and that leads to deaths, but these are crimes/murders based on the colour of someone's skin or their nationality or their politics.
Being killed due to your nationality is no worse or better than being killed for any other reason.
People are killed for far more trivial reasons and the end result is the same.
Sick people commit crimes for all sorts of reasons and in some cases Brexit is just the latest fad that triggers their pathology.
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But surely by people focusing on apparent racial crimes only don`t you think this gives a skewed perception of events?

All crime is bad not just those that suit agendas .
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YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent

Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
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Treboeth
But surely by people focusing on apparent racial crimes only don`t you think this gives a skewed perception of events?
All crime is bad not just those that suit agendas .

Or it forces us to examine some rather unedifying aspects of our country. It could also serve to keep these types of people in the shadows which could lead to further crimes.

Personally I don't see the issue with stating that I believe this country has a rather pernicious ideology emerging. In another thread people talk about immigrants the way you'd talk about animals, and I think it's all part of the same problem.
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shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.

I know. I am absolutely revolted by it. He also attacked a man at the same time. I so hope he gets 15 years minimum without release plus. Thank God for the cctv. He will be nicked very very soon & thank the decent UK citizens that will grass the scum up without thinking twice !
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Treboeth
But surely by people focusing on apparent racial crimes only don`t you think this gives a skewed perception of events?
All crime is bad not just those that suit agendas .
Or it forces us to examine some rather unedifying aspects of our country. It could also serve to keep these types of people in the shadows which could lead to further crimes.
Personally I don't see the issue with stating that I believe this country has a rather pernicious ideology emerging. In another thread people talk about immigrants the way you'd talk about animals, and I think it's all part of the same problem.
So you don`t think the Media have agendas to push, keep the drones divided and complacent so they dont take notice of changes.
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Treboeth
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Treboeth
But surely by people focusing on apparent racial crimes only don`t you think this gives a skewed perception of events?
All crime is bad not just those that suit agendas .
Or it forces us to examine some rather unedifying aspects of our country. It could also serve to keep these types of people in the shadows which could lead to further crimes.
Personally I don't see the issue with stating that I believe this country has a rather pernicious ideology emerging. In another thread people talk about immigrants the way you'd talk about animals, and I think it's all part of the same problem.
So you don`t think the Media have agendas to push, keep the drones divided and complacent so they dont take notice of changes.

The media? The media isn't one homogenous lump. It's numerous different outlets with different agendas and different biases.

People aren't drones either. In a thread where we're alluding to the dehumanising nature of some rhetoric it's best to remember that.
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Treboeth
other murders get committed as well though.
white English malehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37358681
Clearly other crime is still committed and that leads to deaths, but these are crimes/murders based on the colour of someone's skin or their nationality or their politics.
FYI Jo Cox was white too if that matters. Not sure it's a case of even Stevens that I was looking for.

You forgot Asad Shah.

Edited By: Fred Smith on Sep 14, 2016 23:09
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Treboeth
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Treboeth
But surely by people focusing on apparent racial crimes only don`t you think this gives a skewed perception of events?
All crime is bad not just those that suit agendas .
Or it forces us to examine some rather unedifying aspects of our country. It could also serve to keep these types of people in the shadows which could lead to further crimes.
Personally I don't see the issue with stating that I believe this country has a rather pernicious ideology emerging. In another thread people talk about immigrants the way you'd talk about animals, and I think it's all part of the same problem.
So you don`t think the Media have agendas to push, keep the drones divided and complacent so they dont take notice of changes.
The media? The media isn't one homogenous lump. It's numerous different outlets with different agendas and different biases.
People aren't drones either. In a thread where we're alluding to the dehumanising nature of some rhetoric it's best to remember that.
the term drones is to show how the higher ups(as they consider themselves) consider thew lower classes, cannon fodder if you like.

Civil discord can lead to tighter Government controls which Governments like.

The UK is not the only country with unacceptable racial problems or attitudes.

Most decent people "on the street" interact with and treat other people/races/religions with respect or indifference.

It`s the extremists on all sides that revel in discord.
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Fred Smith
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Treboeth
other murders get committed as well though.
white English malehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37358681
Clearly other crime is still committed and that leads to deaths, but these are crimes/murders based on the colour of someone's skin or their nationality or their politics.
FYI Jo Cox was white too if that matters. Not sure it's a case of even Stevens that I was looking for.
You forgot Assad Shah.
Wasn`t he the religously tolerant shopkeeper killed by someone with extreme views?
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Treboeth
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Treboeth
But surely by people focusing on apparent racial crimes only don`t you think this gives a skewed perception of events?
All crime is bad not just those that suit agendas .
Or it forces us to examine some rather unedifying aspects of our country. It could also serve to keep these types of people in the shadows which could lead to further crimes.
Personally I don't see the issue with stating that I believe this country has a rather pernicious ideology emerging. In another thread people talk about immigrants the way you'd talk about animals, and I think it's all part of the same problem.
So you don`t think the Media have agendas to push, keep the drones divided and complacent so they dont take notice of changes.
The media? The media isn't one homogenous lump. It's numerous different outlets with different agendas and different biases.
People aren't drones either. In a thread where we're alluding to the dehumanising nature of some rhetoric it's best to remember that.
the term drones is to show how the higher ups(as they consider themselves) consider thew lower classes, cannon fodder if you like.
Civil discord can lead to tighter Government controls which Governments like.
The UK is not the only country with unacceptable racial problems or attitudes.
Most decent people "on the street" interact with and treat other people/races/religions with respect or indifference.
It`s the extremists on all sides that revel in discord.

I agree that the UK isn't the only country with problems, but I'm focussing on this country because it's my country. That's a silly, old-fashioned notion but I've always been proud of being British. Still am in fact but I seem to recognise what I would term 'British values' less and less each day.

I've always viewed the extremists on both sides as minorities, the 5% on the edges that the 90% in the middle laugh at. Those percentages feel like they're getting a little skewed.

It's getting to the point where I think it's entirely rational for people to stop giving a damn about society and just make sure that they and their families are sorted.
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Treboeth
other murders get committed as well though.
white English malehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37358681
I've been to Romford a couple of times and it's such a beautiful location, such a shame a crime was committed and someone innocent died. :(
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This man is a product of our society. We all therefore share some small part of responsibility for such grievous acts. I have no doubt his actions were fuelled by a deep resentment, a resentment principally arising from the ever growing levels of inequaliy in this country.

If we want a decent, civilised country in which to live we need to address the root causes of problems, not simply tackle the symptoms and then continue with business as usual.
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Treboeth
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Treboeth
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Treboeth
But surely by people focusing on apparent racial crimes only don`t you think this gives a skewed perception of events?
All crime is bad not just those that suit agendas .
Or it forces us to examine some rather unedifying aspects of our country. It could also serve to keep these types of people in the shadows which could lead to further crimes.
Personally I don't see the issue with stating that I believe this country has a rather pernicious ideology emerging. In another thread people talk about immigrants the way you'd talk about animals, and I think it's all part of the same problem.
So you don`t think the Media have agendas to push, keep the drones divided and complacent so they dont take notice of changes.
The media? The media isn't one homogenous lump. It's numerous different outlets with different agendas and different biases.
People aren't drones either. In a thread where we're alluding to the dehumanising nature of some rhetoric it's best to remember that.
the term drones is to show how the higher ups(as they consider themselves) consider thew lower classes, cannon fodder if you like.
Civil discord can lead to tighter Government controls which Governments like.
The UK is not the only country with unacceptable racial problems or attitudes.
Most decent people "on the street" interact with and treat other people/races/religions with respect or indifference.
It`s the extremists on all sides that revel in discord.
I agree that the UK isn't the only country with problems, but I'm focussing on this country because it's my country. That's a silly, old-fashioned notion but I've always been proud of being British. Still am in fact but I seem to recognise what I would term 'British values' less and less each day.
I've always viewed the extremists on both sides as minorities, the 5% on the edges that the 90% in the middle laugh at. Those percentages feel like they're getting a little skewed.
It's getting to the point where I think it's entirely rational for people to stop giving a damn about society and just make sure that they and their families are sorted.
British Values, I think Thatcher to Blair killed those off and gave us Capitalist values,which coincides with your further comments about many people only caring about their immediate family.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
I was born when things like the National Front and the IRA were beginning to disappear, but now we seem to returning to some of these ideas.
Yeah, we even have IRA sympathisers in the shadow cabinet, it's terrifying.
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Rubisco
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
I was born when things like the National Front and the IRA were beginning to disappear, but now we seem to returning to some of these ideas.
Yeah, we even have IRA sympathisers in the shadow cabinet, it's terrifying.

That's a smear - images like the ones below have been taken out of context.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/01063/lefties_1063182c.jpg

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/61EE/production/_85507052_f8d831a8-8787-4868-a72c-d6e2ff582d36.jpg

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/BEDC/production/_85506884_f8dac7f7-8018-4561-8d12-a337febd84fa.jpg
5 Likes #25
Threads like this achieve nothing other than pushing a skewed perception of reality.

This crime is a tragedy but listing a single case and trying to infer that this country is full of muslim or black bashing racists achieves nothing other than stirring up racial hatred and division.

I have plenty of ethnic minority friends, many of which are far less PC or tolerant than their white counterparts and citing a one off example on a public forum in the way you do will do nothing other than causing tensions and is a reason why you never see headlines to the effect of 'black on white crime' or Syrian refugee rapes.. despite on a pro rata basis there are various more examples to support claims contrary to your white racist opinion.. Race crime in the UK

Poor education standard, low job prospects and a large influx of poorly integrated ethnic groups do not help in this regard for any side so I can only hope a controlled immigration policy and addressing integrating these groups (many of which have conflicting belief sets) can be addressed by a brave government.

The country is not full of racist Brexiteers which I am inferring is where this thread was intended to be pushed.



Edited By: john184 on Sep 15, 2016 01:54
banned#26
john184
Threads like this achieve nothing other than pushing a skewed perception of reality.
This crime is a tragedy but listing a single case and trying to infer that this country is full of muslim or black bashing racists achieves nothing other than stirring up racial hatred and division.
I have plenty of ethnic minority friends, many of which are far less PC or tolerant than their white counterparts and citing a one off example on a public forum in the way you do will do nothing other than causing tensions and is a reason why you never see headlines to the effect of 'black on white crime' or Syrian refugee rapes.. despite on a pro rata basis there are various more examples to support claims contrary to your white racist opinion.. Race crime in the UK
Poor education standard, low job prospects and a large influx of poorly integrated ethnic groups do not help in this regard for any side so I can only hope a controlled immigration policy and addressing integrating these groups (many of which have conflicting belief sets) can be addressed by a brave government.
The country is not full of racist Brexiteers which I am inferring is where this thread was intended to be pushed.


Its a one off story about a racist who possibly killed an unborn baby & put 2 adults in hospital.

Stick around if you want to read about real hatred. In fact come back pretty much any night. Unless you are persistent you will not get it. Posts get deleted. Thank God
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twas ever thus
#28
It's a racist attack it's awful. Should there be justice? Absolutely, to prison they go. Should there be social revenge? No
#29
shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.

wouldn't that go against the laws of abortion where a baby inside the mother is not considered 'human' until so many weeks have passed. im sure its more than 12 though I may be wrong. Just checked, I think its up to 24 weeks in the UK you can have a abortion.
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EN1GMA
shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
wouldn't that go against the laws of abortion where a baby inside the mother is not considered 'human' until so many weeks have passed. im sure its more than 12 though I may be wrong. Just checked, I think its up to 24 weeks in the UK you can have a abortion.

It doesn't have to be 12 weeks but if a woman makes it to that point in a pregnancy then 99.9% of the time they'd go full term. I'm not against abortion but I do be believe their should be a cut off point, 24 weeks is far too developed imo but each circumstance is different and wouldn't rule out abortion in exceptional circumstances.

I think as I've suggested at some point of pregnancy the embryo should be considered a life.
banned#31
EN1GMA
shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
wouldn't that go against the laws of abortion where a baby inside the mother is not considered 'human' until so many weeks have passed. im sure its more than 12 though I may be wrong. Just checked, I think its up to 24 weeks in the UK you can have a abortion.

Nowt to do with abortion age. Its "child destruction". If the child is not born that is the charge.

Then an added charge of GBH on the mother & whatever charge they add for the male that was beaten


Edited By: YouDontWantToKnow on Sep 15, 2016 07:56
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YouDontWantToKnow
EN1GMA
shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
wouldn't that go against the laws of abortion where a baby inside the mother is not considered 'human' until so many weeks have passed. im sure its more than 12 though I may be wrong. Just checked, I think its up to 24 weeks in the UK you can have a abortion.
Nowt to do with abortion age. Its "child destruction". If the child is not born that is the charge

my point was that you cant charge the guy with murder of a baby if the baby in the womb was less than 24 weeks as medically, the UK classes a baby under 24 weeks as being a foetus and not a 'human life'. my point was in response to shauneco's point in post #11
#33
john184
Threads like this achieve nothing other than pushing a skewed perception of reality.
This crime is a tragedy but listing a single case and trying to infer that this country is full of muslim or black bashing racists achieves nothing other than stirring up racial hatred and division.

I listed three different cases, affecting both white and non-white victims, but which I think are linked to the same ideology. I apologise if you think I'm stirring up racial hatred and I have no doubt that you'll get support from certain members that there isn't an issue and that this country certainly doesn't have an issue with racism.

I disagree though. I think that you're right that people are struggling in some instances with social conditions, but I think there's an ideology that's arisen that has given these people something to blame. That could be immigrants, it could be political correctness, it could be the EU, it could be 'liberals', the media, the BBC or whatever.

I don't think it would take much time looking at some threads on here to see that.
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EN1GMA
YouDontWantToKnow
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shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
wouldn't that go against the laws of abortion where a baby inside the mother is not considered 'human' until so many weeks have passed. im sure its more than 12 though I may be wrong. Just checked, I think its up to 24 weeks in the UK you can have a abortion.
Nowt to do with abortion age. Its "child destruction". If the child is not born that is the charge
my point was that you cant charge the guy with murder of a baby if the baby in the womb was less than 24 weeks as medically, the UK classes a baby under 24 weeks as being a foetus and not a 'human life'. my point was in response to shauneco's point in post #11

You point is wrong in terms of offences to a body. It is correct in terms of abortion of self termination. Which isnt really applicable.
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shauneco
EN1GMA
shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
wouldn't that go against the laws of abortion where a baby inside the mother is not considered 'human' until so many weeks have passed. im sure its more than 12 though I may be wrong. Just checked, I think its up to 24 weeks in the UK you can have a abortion.
It doesn't have to be 12 weeks but if a woman makes it to that point in a pregnancy then 99.9% of the time they'd go full term. I'm not against abortion but I do be believe their should be a cut off point, 24 weeks is far too developed imo but each circumstance is different and wouldn't rule out abortion in exceptional circumstances.
I think as I've suggested at some point of pregnancy the embryo should be considered a life.

it is considered a life after 24 weeks. at what age does the baby develop a heart beat?
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YouDontWantToKnow
EN1GMA
YouDontWantToKnow
EN1GMA
shauneco
YouDontWantToKnow
shauneco
Very sad, hopefully they find him and charge him with manslaughter :(.
No charge of manslaughter on an unborn baby. GBH at best if no proven intent
Perhaps over 12 weeks they should be considered a life. Hope it carries a similar sentence.
wouldn't that go against the laws of abortion where a baby inside the mother is not considered 'human' until so many weeks have passed. im sure its more than 12 though I may be wrong. Just checked, I think its up to 24 weeks in the UK you can have a abortion.
Nowt to do with abortion age. Its "child destruction". If the child is not born that is the charge
my point was that you cant charge the guy with murder of a baby if the baby in the womb was less than 24 weeks as medically, the UK classes a baby under 24 weeks as being a foetus and not a 'human life'. my point was in response to shauneco's point in post #11
You point is wrong in terms of offences to a body. It is correct in terms of abortion of self termination. Which isnt really applicable.

yes, but in the eyes of the law, a foetus does not become a 'human' until 24 weeks. I don't think theres a separate law for what is considered a life when it comes to abortion and what is considered a life when its a case like the one mentioned in the OP.

I could be wrong and there well could be a law which makes a legal difference. would be interesting to know if there was.
#37
This is what happens when you have too much immigration and the locals feel like immigrants in their own country.
Sadly, events like these will never cease
#38
zworld
This is what happens when you have too much immigration and the locals feel like immigrants in their own country.
Sadly, events like these will never cease

Isn't that an excuse though? Is there a level of migration into an area that eventually leads to someone kicking a pregnant woman to the point of miscarriage?

I think this is an abdication of personal responsibility. People moan about 'Millenials' but we seem to have a generation of people who are constantly looking for things to blame for their lot in life, and an ideology has arisen that gives them exactly that.

You can call it 'alt-right' but it seems to be predominantly males who moan about the same things - political correctness, feminism (or feminazis), groups like black lives matter, politicians (predominantly liberal politicians), immigrants, certain religions etc.

And I think all this is because they feel like they've failed to live up to either their own ambitions or some notion of masculinity.
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zworld
This is what happens when you have too much immigration and the locals feel like immigrants in their own country.
Sadly, events like these will never cease
Isn't that an excuse though? Is there a level of migration into an area that eventually leads to someone kicking a pregnant woman to the point of miscarriage?
I think this is an abdication of personal responsibility. People moan about 'Millenials' but we seem to have a generation of people who are constantly looking for things to blame for their lot in life, and an ideology has arisen that gives them exactly that.
You can call it 'alt-right' but it seems to be predominantly males who moan about the same things - political correctness, feminism (or feminazis), groups like black lives matter, politicians (predominantly liberal politicians), immigrants, certain religions etc.
And I think all this is because they feel like they've failed to live up to either their own ambitions or some notion of masculinity.

Absolutely right, there are people who blame others for their lot in life and people need to take personal responsibility rather than rely on government to make everything right for them, although we need to rely on government to ensure that our country's structure is maintainable, that health services aren't in disarray as the NHS currently is, etc.
Importantly assessment of culture needs to be looked at and fixed. Why are the BNP burning mosques? Because they're terrible people. Why are "feminazis" as you put it being moaned at? Because they are blaming others rather than personal responsiblity, same as Black Lives Matter. Why are London schoolkids having to wear stab-proof vests out of fear?

Fix culture
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zworld
This is what happens when you have too much immigration and the locals feel like immigrants in their own country.
Sadly, events like these will never cease

You are sick

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