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What's a good DVD Price?

ro53ben Avatar
8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
I seem to be causing some controversy on some of the deals relating to my opinion on DVD pricing. In short, there are many deals being posted that I personally don't feel are a good price. I thought it was maybe a good topic for debate.

As I see it, there are roughly 3 levels of pricing for media like DVDs. When it's released it's at a premium price, well above the norm, but available for people who are prepared to pay the price to get their hands on it early.

Then there is the normal price, significantly cheaper than the premium price but often hidden in deals like 3 for 2 but buy 3 for £10. These are subsidised by the publisher and often available in multiple retailers as a result. Retailers still make a profit on these deals, often a good one.

Then there is the clearance price. The retailer over-ordered and needs to shift stock quickly to make way for other stock. A perfect example time is when a special edition is going to be released or something.Sometimes media is even sold at a loss, especially if the box is damaged or soemthing.

A good example of how this works out is Star Wars. Originally released on 4:3 VHS. Then released on VHS widescreen. Then released on DVD. Then release on special edition DVD etc. etc. In between all these deals, the older format can be picked up at somewhere around the 'normal' price.

It's fair to assume that the cost of DVD has no relation to the cost of a movie. Movies are made for theatres and all their production costs are covered there. Any sales on DVD are just a bonus. For this reason all DVDs could and even should be sold at the same retail price, but they aren't. At one snapshot in time, new release DVDs from the likes of Warner were sold at a premium price of around £15. At that same moment, Disney DVD's were sold at prices approaching £20. Why? Because it's Disney and Disney command a premium...because they can as parents are often forced to buy them by their kids. There is no reason Disney DVD should have a higher price. Even their 3 for 2 deals are higher as the price for 2 of the Disney discs is massively higher than 2 from other publishers.

Now we have the introduction of Blu-ray which, without argument, is a better product than DVD. Ignoring the frequent other extras, you have better quality video and sound. As a result, these cost more than DVD and likely always will.

As I see it, the Tesco 'premium' price for a Blu-ray disc is about £20. Online, Blu-rays can easily be found for around £15 per movie. In the frequent 3 for 2 or 3 for £30 deals you're effectively getting each movie for around £10.

Blu-ray is a hot property right now, just take a look at how much shelf space it's expending into at your local retailer. They're re-releasing old movies on Blu-ray and, initially at least, charging a serious premium price. They soon go into 3 for 2 deals however and then you'll be paying around £10 per movie...what I will declare as the 'normal' price for Blu-ray.

If the normal price for Blu-ray is £10, then any DVD at or above that price is over-priced. It's only fair to expect a DVD to cost less than a Blu-ray regardless of content. A quick look at play.com shows that new release movies are now priced up at £9.99 - examples include Wanted, The Mist and Sex & The City. They can claim the RRP of Sex & The City is £22.99 as much as they like, no way in the world did anybody pay this. So, using our examples, £9.99 is the current premium price for movies on DVD. This links well with my hypothesis of any DVD at or above £10 being over-priced.

Looking around further at play.com, we see reduced DVDs that are no longer new releases. Titles like Spider-Man 3 and Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium are now going for £4.99. This is the new normal price for DVDs. It's fair to expect any DVD release to hit this £5 level after a few months of release.

It looks like there has never been a better time to buy DVDs. With everything swiftly moving over to Blu-ray, the publishers are shifting warehouses full of back catalogue DVDs at a giveaway price. They're slashing an unbelievable amount of DVD box sets for TV shows and other titles, because they know it's a time limited format and it's their last chance to make serious money on the DVD.

A perfect example is Disney again. They introduce deals like the "Buy one get one free" on play.com and it looks like a good deal. But these are £14.99 a disc for very old movies....that's not a good deal. New movies are coming out for £9.99, older movies are going for £4.99. How can £14.99 be a good deal for a disc? It's not. They just know it's the last Christmas to juice the last out of most of these titles before the Blu-ray releases.

These are nothing like the deals you can expect to see in the New Year. Once Christmas is done, I expect to see retailers sat on a pile of unsold DVDs with a pending Blu-ray release. They will need to shift them quick. The publishers will want to make their last few quid before the format starts taking it's last breaths.

A perfect example of all this is The Shawshank Redemption. It did it's VHS release. It did it's widescreen VHS release. It did it's DVD release, amazingly still in 4:3. It did it's widescreen DVD release...and now it's out on Blu-ray.

It's been at it's premium Blu-ray £20 price in Tesco and it's on play.com for £13.99. But what happened to the DVD after this? Answer - £2.49 http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/1983/The-Shawshank-Redemption/Product.html

£2.49 for what has been voted in countless polls as the greatest movie of all time. This is actually cheaper than renting it in some places. This is a hot deal, it can only be.

So, what do you regard as a good price for DVD and why?
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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banned#1
a good deal is any deal where the person feels they have got value for money its a simple as that people will pay what ever they feel is a good deal to them
banned#2
I wouldn't dream of paying more than a tenner for any film on blu-ray and would not buy any film on dvd. blu-ray average price will be a tenner in a year or two imho.
#3
WOW And to think I found myself almost reading all of that................

I agree with the post two up, a good/great deal is a price you are happy/really happy
paying ( This price will always vary from person to person )
banned#4
Its hardly the last christmas for standard DVD's...Blu Ray will not take over for a few years yet...when DVD's came out, VHS were still big for ages.....

The push on Blu Ray has only been this year due to the death of HD-DVD...


On the Disney bogof deal...Disney do this all the time...about 2 times per year at least...its not a drive to push sales due to Blu Ray...its just a drive to push sales...its nothing new....

also your Shawshank arguement doesnt work...you linking to a Playtrader for a start, also thats the 'used' price....

that particular release is also the original 2 sided edition...the updated ones made that particular edition out dated...which is why that version is always in sales...cause not many want the 2 sided version

This DVD has been around for ages anyway...always the way...I dont think DVD prices are dropping due to Blu Ray..its cause there is much more competition...Go instore to HMV and there still as expensive as ever anyway



You are looking at the voting system all wrong...you should vote on the best price for that particualr item...

NOT vote on the fact its a DVD therefore overpriced due to the release of Blu Ray etc...
#5
And DVD is far from taking it's last breaths. A lot of us just don't see the point in HD formats. It's still the same ****** old film after all.
banned#6
Shengis;3267271
And DVD is far from taking it's last breaths. A lot of us just don't see the point in HD formats. It's still the same ****** old film after all.

Try watching blade runner in standard def and then blu-ray. I think you might see the point in HD after that.........;-)
banned#7
Shengis
And DVD is far from taking it's last breaths. A lot of us just don't see the point in HD formats. It's still the same ****** old film after all.


agreed the day blu ray starts out selling standard dvd is the day you can say that
#8
ODB_69

also your Shawshank arguement doesnt work...you linking to a Playtrader for a start, also thats the 'used' price....

Apologies, I should have link the NEW one... http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/132318/The-Shawshank-Redemption/Product.html

It's £2.99, a whole 50pence more!


This DVD has been around for ages anyway...always the way...I dont think DVD prices are dropping due to Blu Ray..its cause there is much more competition...Go instore to HMV and there still as expensive as ever anyway


Exactly, it's been around for ages. As have many of the so called "deals" being posted. My point is that they aren't good deals, just standard sales demographics.
#9
depends really on the dvd if its a classic or if its a stinker of a movie and £5.99 its gonna get voted cold, if i see a dvd or boxset in a deal i normally just go onto

[url]www.find-dvd.co.uk[/url]

to make sure its the best price...then if it is ill vote hot, if it isnt ill vote cold and explain why. If you want to get a rough understanding of what ppl on this site think is a good (hot) deal on hukd i would take a look at the following peoples posts:

millarcat
amibees
whizzkid

then 3 normally most solid dvd deals. hope thats helped a little.
[mod]#10
If people want it........like the price. Then it's a deal as long as they are happy.

Simple as.
#11
just read ur post on some deals being really old and still gettin voted hot, i agree but i guess it doesnt matter how old it is, its still a good deal.
banned#12
Syzable
If people want it........like the price. Then it's a deal as long as they are happy.

Simple as.


as i said its down to choice case closed
#13
csiman
Try watching blade runner in standard def and then blu-ray. I think you might see the point in HD after that.........;-)


Would the HD version make me fall asleep quicker then:whistling:
banned#14
Shengis;3268609
Would the HD version make me fall asleep quicker then:whistling:

noooooo....Blade Runner is awesome!
banned#15
Shengis;3268609
Would the HD version make me fall asleep quicker then:whistling:

There's no accounting for taste sometimes ;-)
#16
:lol:

I've got the metal tin version on DVD but I think the film is very over hyped. Rutger Hauer was better in The Hitcher.
#17
ro53ben - you didn't "cause some controversy" because of your "opinion on DVD pricing" - you caused controversy by continually voting cold on deals for the wrong reason.

You have some valid points in your DVD argument (particularly in regard to Disney and their pricing of DVDs) but none of them are relevant as to whether a deal is hot or cold. If it's the cheapest price available, you vote hot. If you can find it cheaper elsewhere, you vote cold. If you personally don't think it's good value or you have no interest in the item, you ignore it and move on.

If I can get Toy Story 1 & 2 on DVD for significantly cheaper than anywhere else then I'll vote it hot - because my 2 year old boy couldn't give a monkeys if it's on DVD or on Blu-Ray. It's not even available on Blu-ray and you still voted cold!
banned#18
horsepills;3269286
ro53ben - you didn't "cause some controversy" because of your "opinion on DVD pricing" - you caused controversy by continually voting cold on deals for the wrong reason.

You have some valid points in your DVD argument (particularly in regard to Disney and their pricing of DVDs) but none of them are relevant as to whether a deal is hot or cold. If it's the cheapest price available, you vote hot. If you can find it cheaper elsewhere, you vote cold. If you personally don't think it's good value or you have no interest in the item, you ignore it and move on.

If I can get Toy Story 1 & 2 on DVD for significantly cheaper than anywhere else then I'll vote it hot - because my 2 year old boy couldn't give a monkeys if it's on DVD or on Blu-Ray. It's not even available on Blu-ray and you still voted cold!



^^^^^^^ what they said :thumbsup:
#19
I've just read through the Op's old posts, what a nut job :lol:
banned#20
Shengis;3269591
I've just read through the Op's old posts, what a nut job :lol:

OMFG :w00t:

Agreed...total looney tune...keeps mentioning THE BEST FILM ever...then links to cheaper price...yet its always a playtrade 2nd hand one...in the Incredibles post by Amibees he even links to 1 that is 2nd hand, playtrade AND region 1...you couldnt make it up

http://www.hotukdeals.com/search?keywords=&search_type=title_only&merchant_id=&merchant_search=&user_id=108372&user_search=ro53ben&user_search_type=posts&threads_with=minimum&threads_with_number=&posts_from=6months&posts_from_option=newer&sort_results_by=Last%20Posting%20Date&sort_results_option=DESC&temp_min=&temp_max=&advanced_search=Search%20Now&pagenumber=2&page=1
[mod]#21
The OP Should be punished for stupid cold voting. Me thinks he's just another here in the long line of...............

http://www.caveyourtrolls.com/img3.jpg
banned#22
Syzable;3271515
The OP Should be punished for stupid cold voting. Me thinks he's just another here in the long line of...............

http://www.caveyourtrolls.com/img3.jpg

LOL @ that pic Sy....

I agree though:thumbsup:
#23
ODB_69
OMFG :w00t:

Agreed...total looney tune...keeps mentioning THE BEST FILM ever...then links to cheaper price...yet its always a playtrade 2nd hand one...in the Incredibles post by Amibees he even links to 1 that is 2nd hand, playtrade AND region 1...you couldnt make it up




Get a brain dude, I posted one bad link and then re-linked to this one http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/132318/The-Shawshank-Redemption/Product.html

It's £2.99, it's Region 2, it's not PlayTrade and you, sir, are wrong.
#24
Its not about if people like the price its about making an informed decision, if I want to buy a product and someone pointed out where I could buy it cheaper ie. word of mouth, the OP, or websites such as HDUK then of course I would be much happier.

Simply the OP is stating what he has is correct, why pay more, kinda the point of this website and the people who use it....................
#25
horsepills
ro53ben - you didn't "cause some controversy" because of your "opinion on DVD pricing" - you caused controversy by continually voting cold on deals for the wrong reason.

You have some valid points in your DVD argument (particularly in regard to Disney and their pricing of DVDs) but none of them are relevant as to whether a deal is hot or cold. If it's the cheapest price available, you vote hot. If you can find it cheaper elsewhere, you vote cold. If you personally don't think it's good value or you have no interest in the item, you ignore it and move on.

If I can get Toy Story 1 & 2 on DVD for significantly cheaper than anywhere else then I'll vote it hot - because my 2 year old boy couldn't give a monkeys if it's on DVD or on Blu-Ray. It's not even available on Blu-ray and you still voted cold!


Thanks for the input, so where does the "luke warm" vote come in?

If I think it's a good price, I vote hot. If I could get a better price elsewhere, I vote cold. But when do I take the 3rd option?
banned#26
ro53ben;3275743
Get a brain dude, I posted one bad link and then re-linked to this one http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/132318/The-Shawshank-Redemption/Product.html

It's £2.99, it's Region 2, it's not PlayTrade and you, sir, are wrong.



No Sir....it is YOU who is wrong...you posted 2 bad links
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/262559/incredibles-2dvd-only-5-99-delivere/showpost.php?p=3266964&postcount=6


So I believe it is you who should also get a brain...stop trolling and accept you are in the wrong....


You Sir...
http://forum.alsacreations.com/upload/2043-fail-camera.jpg
#27
I believe I clearly labelled the link as region 1, that wasn't a bad link, just the same DVD at a lower price elsewhere.

I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, like I was with the Shawshank link, it was corrected long ago.

Do you actually have any on-topic contribution to make? Because if you don't, I fear that it is you who is trolling. I started this topic to have a normal grown up discussion outside of deal comments, I didn't need you to come along and fill it full of off-topic ****.

Read the OP and respond to it or kindly move along and get out of the way of the others who've given me some good feedback, thanks.
banned#28
ro53ben;3276963
I believe I clearly labelled the link as region 1, that wasn't a bad link, just the same DVD at a lower price elsewhere.

I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, like I was with the Shawshank link, it was corrected long ago.

Do you actually have any on-topic contribution to make? Because if you don't, I fear that it is you who is trolling. I started this topic to have a normal grown up discussion outside of deal comments, I didn't need you to come along and fill it full of off-topic ****.

Read the OP and respond to it or kindly move along and get out of the way of the others who've given me some good feedback, thanks.



The point is the link is Playtrade AND second hand...can you not see that?

you cannot compare a brand new price to a second hand region 1 price!

what is with you man? why vote all DVD's cold JUST because Blu Ray is the new format?! DVD will be around for a long time to come before it is phased out and has an absolute MINIMUM of 2 years left in it


I believe you will find I have given good feedback...read my previous posts...you have it all wrong and should therefore stop voting unless you realise exactly why what your doing is wrong
#29
A good deal is when you want to pay the price it's offered for.

All about demand and supply peeps.
[mod]#30
More to the point........you CANNOT link to playtrade items on this site as it's personal sales.
banned#31
Syzable;3277026
More to the point........you CANNOT link to playtrade items on this site as it's personal sales.

oh yh...totally didnt think of that :thumbsup:
#32
Syzable
More to the point........you CANNOT link to playtrade items on this site as it's personal sales.


yeah wouldn't wanna find deal else where would we..................


lollington
[mod]#33
Alfonse;3277105
yeah wouldn't wanna find deal else where would we..................


lollington


It's forum rules.......if you allow playtrade then you have to allow things like eBay & Amazon Marketplace as they are the same.
#34
Syzable
If people want it........like the price. Then it's a deal as long as they are happy.

Simple as.


:whistling:
[mod]#35
And i still stand by that. However with your obviously limited intellect regarding the legitimacy of deals and how they are to be posted it's pointless trying to explain further. :thumbsup:
#36
Looks like this thread has descended into a load of internal politics **** so I'll unsubscribe from it.

I feel I now understand the hot/cold thing better, thanks, but if anybody would like to share when I should use the "luke warm" option, as I asked earlier, kindly PM me.

Thanks.
#37
Syzable
If people want it........like the price. Then it's a deal as long as they are happy.

Simple as.


Syzable
And i still stand by that. However with your obviously limited intellect regarding the legitimacy of deals and how they are to be posted it's pointless trying to explain further. :thumbsup:


Yes, obviously your first statement doesn't reflect your second above in any manner, the simplified text is a straight forward supply and demand context. Now you fall upon insults of demeaning intelligence, your 'simple as' insult only shows your Syzable maturity.
#38
ro53ben
Thanks for the input, so where does the "luke warm" vote come in?

If I think it's a good price, I vote hot. If I could get a better price elsewhere, I vote cold. But when do I take the 3rd option?


I'd normally vote lukewarm when a deal is posted that is not significantly cheaper than elsewhere. So if someone posted a dvd for £3 but it's widely available elsewhere for £3.50 it's not exactly hot, but still cheaper than the rest - hence, "lukewarm"
#39
Alfonse
Its not about if people like the price


I disagree with that. Whether a deal is hot or not is solely about price, because the price cannot be argued or debated about - whereas perceived value can. It would become too subjective otherwise, and personal opinions about the product itself would dictate the heat far too much. It is either a great price (hot) or an uncompetitive price (cold)

Once it's been voted hot or cold based on price, then people can make their "informed decision" as to whether or not they will buy.

Otherwise, you'd have even more instances of people cold voting on cracking deals because they don't like the item itself regardles of whether it's the cheapest available.
#40
horsepills
I disagree with that. Whether a deal is hot or not is solely about price, because the price cannot be argued or debated about - whereas perceived value can. It would become too subjective otherwise, and personal opinions about the product itself would dictate the heat far too much. It is either a great price (hot) or an uncompetitive price (cold)

Once it's been voted hot or cold based on price, then people can make their "informed decision" as to whether or not they will buy.

Otherwise, you'd have even more instances of people cold voting on cracking deals because they don't like the item itself regardles of whether it's the cheapest available.


Thanks for quoting me in full context and not using the first few words of my post without my explaination, it obviously isn't misconstrued by you doing that at all. :thumbsup:

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