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I don't want to upset people in the 9/11 thread - but I don't understand the point of it. To me, it's a space to discuss an event and what happened since. But that doesn't have to just be slightly …
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banned7y, 6m agoPosted 7 years, 6 months ago
I don't want to upset people in the 9/11 thread - but I don't understand the point of it.

To me, it's a space to discuss an event and what happened since. But that doesn't have to just be slightly empty platitudes and how it affected 'us', does it?

To me, that is ever so slightly morbid and self-indulgent.
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banned7y, 6m agoPosted 7 years, 6 months ago
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banned#1
This isn't a troll - I honestly want some people's perspectives on why certain threads exist.
#2
yes, I can see where you coming from on this
#3
FilthAndFurry
This isn't a troll - I honestly want some people's perspectives on why certain threads exist.


You full well know this is going to kick off, just like the thread you made about the armed forces a while ago
banned#4
i would imagine its just a space for people to pay their respects, like a rememberance book
[admin]#5
Yeah I agree with Sassie, it was a shocking, almost surreal event and if people deal with that and their memories of it by talking about it, then what's the issue?
banned#6
juliet_bravo
Yeah I agree with Sassie, it was a shocking, almost surreal event and if people deal with that and their memories of it by talking about it, then what's the issue?


not the repsonse filth will want to hear from a mod, still trying to stir it up for the bite
banned#7
juliet_bravo
Yeah I agree with Sassie, it was a shocking, almost surreal event and if people deal with that and their memories of it by talking about it, then what's the issue?


Because I don't think everyone has the same mentality.

To me, I see it as an event that changed history and to talk about such a day has to realistically be about a large scope of things.

It reminds me of an episode of Rescue Me which was revolutionary for portraying the firemen in New York realistically.

There was a 9/11 support group that the main character went to and people shared their experiences.

When he asked one guy where he was at the time, he replied (and I'm paraphrasing) "Cleveland".
banned#8
FilthAndFurry
Because I don't think everyone has the same mentality.

To me, I see it as an event that changed history and to talk about such a day has to realistically be about a large scope of things.

It reminds me of an episode of Rescue Me which was revolutionary for portraying the firemen in New York realistically.

There was a 9/11 support group that the main character went to and people shared their experiences.

When he asked one guy where he was at the time, he replied (and I'm paraphrasing) "Cleveland".


we dont all have the same religion but would you barge into a mosque and start spouting off, that thread was for people to show their repects, your supposed to be intelligent enough to know that, i am and i aint as well read as you claim to be :roll:
banned#9
sassie
we dont all have the same religion but would you barge into a mosque and start spouting off, that thread was for people to show their repects, your supposed to be intelligent enough to know that, i am and i aint as well read as you claim to be :roll:


Sassie, I've pm'd you a suggestion.

But in response to your post, I believe in the freedom of ideas and I think honest debate should be encouraged.

Im being honest, in this thread, about how I find such threads slightly distasteful and an extension of the 'Diana syndrome'.

Some people will understand that. I don't expect everyone to agree with me.
#10
FilthAndFurry


Im being honest, in this thread, about how I find such threads slightly distasteful and an extension of the 'Diana syndrome'.



more replies in said thread and a better atmos than this thread says your in the minority mate, so unless this is a troll maybe just skip certain threads eh :thumbsup:
banned#11
If you don't like the threads and their purpose (which was pretty obviously meant as a mark of respect to people who lost their lives in an horrific event), then ignore them. Start up your own thread to complain. No one will bat an eyelid to that - but some things should not be trolled in.

HTH.
#12
This was a day that changed the lives of most people on Earth,I dont think that compares to the Death of one gold digger,
banned#13
kungfu
more replies in said thread and a better atmos than this thread says your in the minority mate, so unless this is a troll maybe just skip certain threads eh :thumbsup:


I don't doubt that I am in the minority here on this issue.
#14
guv
If you don't like the threads and their purpose (which was pretty obviously meant as a mark of respect to people who lost their lives in an horrific event), then ignore them. [COLOR="Red"]Start up your own thread to complain[/COLOR]. No one will bat an eyelid to that - but some things should not be trolled in.

HTH.


He's started up his own thread to give his opinion, can't see anything wrong with that (freedom of speech n all that :))

And like you said, if you don't like threads and their purpose, then ignore them :thumbsup:
banned#15
tonyg1962
This was a day that changed the lives of most people on Earth,I dont think that compares to the Death of one gold digger,


Exactly, and reducing it to empty platitudes doesn't really do it justice in my opinion.

I think that people should be free to express their views on it, what happened subsequently and where we are now without being told their wrong for doing so and must type something that the 'majority' agree with.
banned#16
guv
If you don't like the threads and their purpose (which was pretty obviously meant as a mark of respect to people who lost their lives in an horrific event), then ignore them. Start up your own thread to complain. No one will bat an eyelid to that - but some things should not be trolled in.

HTH.


I don't quite understand how a thread on a shopping forum in the UK is a 'mark of respect'.

To me, and I understand I'm probably in the minority and I again mean no disrespect, it seems frivolous.
#17
FilthAndFurry
I don't quite understand how a thread on a shopping forum in the UK is a 'mark of respect'.

To me, and I understand I'm probably in the minority and I again mean no disrespect, it seems frivolous.


is it as frivolous as a thread about a thread though :p
banned#18
kungfu
is it as frivolous as a thread about a thread though :p


Indeed, and as unimportant in the great scheme of things.:thumbsup:

I don't tend to insult people either and I would ask that people try and avoid such things.
#19
Can people not just have a serious thread if they want? Every thread doesn't have to turn into a debate, sometimes, people just want to be able to have a serious discussion about how something has affected them. There's no harm in that is there?

Where you mention self indulgent, the threads I find to be self indulgent are ones that I have seen where the posters are continually bragging about what they may/may not earn/own, or what VIP event they have attended etc etc. Someone continually banging on about materiallistic things seems to be more self indulgent than a rememberance thread. Yet I don't see you making a thread asking what the point of those self indulgent threads are.
banned#20
FilthAndFurry
I don't quite understand how a thread on a shopping forum in the UK is a 'mark of respect'.



That probably explains quite a lot tbh.
banned#21
Charlie&Lola
Can people not just have a serious thread if they want? Every thread doesn't have to turn into a debate, sometimes, people just want to be able to have a serious discussion about how something has affected them. There's no harm in that is there?

Where you mention self indulgent, the threads I find to be self indulgent are ones that I have seen where the posters are continually bragging about what they may/may not earn/own, or what VIP event they have attended etc etc. Someone continually banging on about materiallistic things seems to be more self indulgent than a rememberance thread. Yet I don't see you making a thread asking what the point of those self indulgent threads are.


Because I think it's obvious to most people that those threads are a bit of fun. I don't even think the OPs take them seriously and the people replying and calling them trolls whilst trying to disprove them certainly don't.

But I have a problem with threads that mandate how someone should properly respond.

Someone made a joke, but can anyone seriously say that they haven't treated a bad event with humour.

I've been to comedy clubs in New York where jokes are made and the crowd laughs. You can't be somber forever. I think it devalues the REAL losses on that day.

I actually felt uncomfortable with my post because how it affected me doesn't matter one jot.
#22
FilthAndFurry
Because I think it's obvious to most people that those threads are a bit of fun. I don't even think the OPs take them seriously and the people replying and calling them trolls whilst trying to disprove them certainly don't.

But I have a problem with threads that mandate how someone should properly respond.

Someone made a joke, but can anyone seriously say that they haven't treated a bad event with humour.

I've been to comedy clubs in New York where jokes are made and the crowd laughs. You can't be somber forever. I think it devalues the REAL losses on that day.

I actually felt uncomfortable with my post because how it affected me doesn't matter one jot.



But there was the conspiracy theory thread where you could have said whatever you wanted or really felt about 9/11, as quite a few did !!

If people want a serious thread, then they should be allowed as much as the continual barrage of twaddle from certain people is allowed. In my opinion, it's all about balance.

As you say, no, you shouldn't be made to feel a certain way, but the way you should handle that is by staying out of the thread.
banned#23
Charlie&Lola
But there was the conspiracy theory thread where you could have said whatever you wanted or really felt about 9/11, as quite a few did !!

If people want a serious thread, then they should be allowed as much as the continual barrage of twaddle from certain people is allowed. In my opinion, it's all about balance.

As you say, no, you shouldn't be made to feel a certain way, but the way you should handle that is by staying out of the thread.


Actually, someone made a joke and I defended the use of humour in dealing with such events.

Any psychologist would say the exact same and I recounted the cathartic experience of Gilbert Godfried telling a joke at a roast not long after.

Also, I did post in that conspiracy theory thread.
#24
Charlie&Lola
[COLOR="Red"]But there was the conspiracy theory thread where you could have said whatever you wanted or really felt about 9/11, as quite a few did !!
[/COLOR]
If people want a serious thread, then they should be allowed as much as the continual barrage of twaddle from certain people is allowed. In my opinion, it's all about balance.

As you say, no, you shouldn't be made to feel a certain way, but the way you should handle that is by staying out of the thread.


But what F&F is talking about now is nothing to do with conspiracy theories.
banned#25
midlandscomics
But what F&F is talking about now is nothing to do with conspiracy theories.


what F& F normally spouts is total tosh

HTH
#26
dog_cop
what F& F normally spouts is total tosh

HTH


I disagree. Ocassionaly it can be total tosh, but a lot of the time it seems to be his genuine opinion, but because it can be a bit controversial to some people, it gets tarred with the 'trolling' brush. A bit silly IMO.
banned#27
midlandscomics
I disagree. Ocassionaly it can be total tosh, but a lot of the time it seems to be his genuine opinion, but because it can be a bit controversial to some people, it gets tarred with the 'trolling' brush. A bit silly IMO.


I think you may have missed the point , most of his tosh is posted to get a bite out of anyone who falls for it.. as for it being a troll.. yes

over and out
#28
this thread resulted in my first infraction in over a year..... damn.

FFS if you wanna be centre of attention, create an "I'm leaving" thread.
#29
dog_cop
I think you may have missed the point , most of his tosh is posted to get a bite out of anyone who falls for it.. as for it being a troll.. yes

over and out


Nah I haven't missed the point :) I think a lot of what he posts is genuine, and some people are just scared to go against the crowd and agree with him. It's just easier to accuse him of being a troll.

Anyways, this is going way off topic now, so might be best to start a thread to talk about the thread talking about a thread :-D
#30
MinstrelMan
this thread resulted in my first infraction in over a year..... damn.

FFS if you wanna be centre of attention, create an "I'm leaving" thread.


lol, shame on you for falling for it :p
banned#31
midlandscomics
Nah I haven't missed the point :) I think a lot of what he posts is genuine, and some people are just scared to go against the crowd and agree with him. It's just easier to accuse him of being a troll.

Anyways, this is going way off topic now, so might be best to start a thread to talk about the thread talking about a thread :-D


I dont think that is right at all, many people are happy to voice their opinion about all sorts, but not when it is continaully done in threads that were not posted to be swayed into the ops ways, if he wants to start a thread about anything, he can, why ruin everyone elses
#32
midlandscomics
Nah I haven't missed the point :)I think a lot of what he posts is genuine, and some people are just scared to go against the crowd and agree with him. It's just easier to accuse him of being a troll.

Anyways, this is going way off topic now, so might be best to start a thread to talk about the thread talking about a thread :-D


Not noticed that this thread is a result of a disaster where nearly 3000 died? yet he'll create a thread linked to a news topic..... isn't that pointless? its been said many a time before, double standards he just likes to cause controversy.

I believe he was an attention starved child, his web-persona now gets all the attention he could ever crave.......
#33
sassie
I dont think that is right at all, many people are happy to voice their opinion about all sorts, but not when it is continaully done in threads that were not posted to be swayed into the ops ways, [COLOR="Red"]if he wants to start a thread about anything, he can, why ruin everyone elses[/COLOR]


But he has.... if he was trolling why not post this in the 9-11 thread?

MinstrelMan
Not noticed that this thread is a result of a disaster where nearly 3000 died? yet he'll create a thread linked to a news topic..... isn't that pointless? its been said many a time before, double standards he just likes to cause controversy.

I believe he was an attention starved child, his web-persona now gets all the attention he could ever crave.......


Morning big man, I was just on about his posts in general , not just this thread in particular :)
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midlandscomics
I disagree. Ocassionaly it can be total tosh, but a lot of the time it seems to be his genuine opinion, but because it can be a bit controversial to some people, it gets tarred with the 'trolling' brush. A bit silly IMO.


^this

the way sassie has been ranting over the last few days has been rather excruciating especially in the blood donor thread and is just symptomatic of the growing trend on here to label everyone with a differing view or mentality as a troll.

as for filth's point well I tend to agree with it, I havn't went near the 9/11 thread as I have little or no interest in seeing a load of woman post more than likely self indulgent, self wallowing almost fake like posts filled with hugs kisses and little yellow emoticons with animated tears but if thats they way they want to treat one of the defining events of the last 100 years then thats up to them.
#35
MinstrelMan
Not noticed that this thread is a result of a disaster where nearly 3000 died? yet he'll create a thread linked to a news topic..... isn't that pointless? its been said many a time before, double standards he just likes to cause controversy.

I believe he was an attention starved child, his web-persona now gets all the attention he could ever crave.......


although this thread was started because of another thread, it could easily have been about the death of Diana or Michael Jackson, I think that was the point F&F was making
#36
There are certain events in recent world history (1900s to the present day) that ought never be removed from our memories. When it comes around to the remembrance date of any of these events, it is understandable that people will speak of how it affected them. I don't see any selfish indulgence in this. I wasn't around, despite what some think, the time of the Jewish Holocaust, but believe that it should be remembered in a way that educates people about the atrocity. The 9/11 events ought to be remembered in much the same way to show just how depraved and inhumane mankind can be.
#37
midlandscomics
I disagree. Ocassionaly it can be total tosh, but a lot of the time it seems to be his genuine opinion, but because it can be a bit controversial to some people, it gets tarred with the 'trolling' brush. A bit silly IMO.



People should be allowed to have a serious thread, if that's what they want. I can't understand why if someone doesn't agree with it, they can't just not post in it and let everyone else carry on doing whatever it is they want to. Just like F&F says that he shouldn't be made to feel a certain way about something, the person that opened that thread and the people that post in it shouldn't have F&F try and make them feel any other way either. Obviously there are conflicting views from the offset, so why not just leave the thread alone if you don't agree with it?
banned#38
midlandscomics
But he has.... if he was trolling why not post this in the 9-11 thread?


he ruins everyones threads, he turns the topics to what he wants to discuss, not what the op does, yes it is misc, but as he so clearly tells everyone else, if you dont want to discuss what the op does then ignore the thread, that thread was clearly started by the op to show their respect, whether filth agreed with that or not he should have either shown his respects or butted out, he clearly finds it ok to joke about deathk, where others clearly dont find that ok, why should his wishes be the only ones respected
#39
ants97


I havn't went near the 9/11 thread as I have little or no interest


surely this is the answer the OP is searching for? :thumbsup:
#40
hassony
although this thread was started because of another thread, it could easily have been about the death of Diana or Michael Jackson, I think that was the point F&F was making


The difference is the death of Dianna or michael Jackson didnt really effect anybody else in any real way ,But this act of religious fanatisiscm went on to cost the lives of hundreds of thousands,

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