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What vote does the most damage to the Labour Party?

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7y, 7m agoPosted 7 years, 7 months ago
Conservative or UKIP? Con currently poll 30%, UKIP 19%, Lab 19%
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7y, 7m agoPosted 7 years, 7 months ago
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#1
Conservative obviously. They're the only other party to properly challenge Labour in reality. Although it will depend on the seat you're finding under in terms of the electorate's voting history - i.e. you would need to vote for the party in your area who would most likely defeat the Labour candidate.
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Don't get why people who dislike some of Labours policies would vote for the Conservatives.

New Labour are essentially Conservative Lite so voting Tory is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
#3
Ungreat

New Labour are essentially Conservative Lite


+1
I hate New Labour with a passion, they have screwed me over along with everyone I know, at one time or another, since 1997. I have never been as poor as I am right now as a direct result of their capitalist policies. I just want to vote for the party that gives them the biggest kick in the gonads and gets them out of power in the most economical fashion.
These elections are a means to an end for me. Unfortunately, we have a choice between Labour or Conservative in reality but Labour no longer hold any loyalty to the ordinary person and I will never ever vote for them again. If that means a tory vote then so be it. I'd take anything other than Labour right now.
#4
good points everyone, they're all the same, let's stage a coo, who's with me...?
#5
Scribbles
+1
If that means a tory vote then so be it. I'd take anything other than Labour right now.


Sorry to say, we had eighteen years of Tory rule before 1997, that was even worse.

If you are fed up with Labour's " capitalist " policies, then you really shouldn't even consider the Tories.

Strange how people have such short memories.:)

Bring back Lord Sutch RIP.
banned#6
Inactive
Sorry to say, we had eighteen years of Tory rule before 1997, that was even worse.

If you are fed up with Labour's " capitalist " policies, then you really shouldn't even consider the Tories.

Strange how people have such short memories.:)


Agreed. The hole in my backside would need to heal before I'd ever vote Tory.
#7
guv
Agreed. The hole in my backside would need to heal before I'd ever vote Tory.


:-D Same here, we have all paid to have my Tory MP's Moat cleaned out, I kid you not.:x

( Capitalist ring any bells ? );-)

Fortunately the pompous, arrogant plonker has decided to stand down at the next election.
#8
Lmao, I love the way people go on about the last Tory Government still.

Erm, right we had a recession under the Tories, but Labour have led us into a depression, woohoo, go them. Everytime Labour have been in power for an extended period of time they have left us in a right mess.

I personaly think the people of Britain need to march on Westminster and make our voices heared. Parliment should be dissolved and elections held asap. this country is screwed, and the longer labour are in the worse it is going to get

The motor industry is going to pot, and Gordon brown and his schmucks are letting it happen.
#9
v2drinkers
Probably because the recession under the conservatives hit the average Brit more than this (as you call it) depression has.

Labour and onservatives are as bad as one another. neither care about the average British person.


I think that this is hitting the average brit pretty hard to be honest.

They reckon if Vauxhalls shuts down, around 25,000 jobs will be lost. Now thats not just from vauxhalls, thats job losses in other companys who deal with making parts and offering services to vauxhalls.

I'm using Vauxhalls as an example, as it is who my dad works for. He has been there for 34 years, and he tells me it has never ever been this bad before.

Our government should be stepping in to save this industry, but their not. In my eyes it just goes to show how useless they really are.
#10
This Labour government have saddled us with a national debt that will cripple us for many years to come. They will be desperate to get voted OUT so that when the inevitable tax rises come(and they will as the interest on the debt will cost every single tax payer approx £2000 per annum), they can blame the Tory government.
BNP for me....................................................:whistling:
#11
v2drinkers
What right has a company owned outside of our country have to our goverment giving them our money?

In fact if you give money to one manufacturer where do you stop. conservatives are all about market forces and market forces are causing the problems in the car industry ( oversupply / under demand) with the over capacity of car makers worldwide it was bound to happen that one major manufacturer would go under.

But this hasnt happened yet!


Erm to save the jobs of the people who work in this country, and pay taxes in this country. I think that is a pretty damn good reason to be honest
#12
Kitten13
Lmao, I love the way people go on about the last Tory Government still.

Erm, right we had a recession under the Tories, but Labour have led us into a depression, woohoo, go them. Everytime Labour have been in power for an extended period of time they have left us in a right mess.

I personaly think the people of Britain need to march on Westminster and make our voices heared. Parliment should be dissolved and elections held asap. this country is screwed, and the longer labour are in the worse it is going to get

The motor industry is going to pot, and Gordon brown and his schmucks are letting it happen.


I cant compare Cameron to Thatcher in any way. Cameron is a moderate progressive, Thatcher was a tyrant, as far right as Bush and Reagan. Cameron is much closer to 'old' Labour than New Labour are. The tories are a centre party nowadays, with Labour slightly to the right of them.
#13
Scribbles
I cant compare Cameron to Thatcher in any way. Cameron is a moderate progressive, Thatcher was a tyrant, as far right as Bush and Reagan. Cameron is much closer to 'old' Labour than New Labour are. The tories are a centre party nowadays, with Labour slightly to the right of them.


Of course he is ( cough ) look at which school he and George Osborne went to.

Nuf said.

I wouldn't buy a used car off of either of them.:roll:

The only MP that I have any faith in is Vince Cable of the Lib Dems, he always talks a lot of common sense, shame about the party.
banned#14
Kitten13
Erm to save the jobs of the people who work in this country, and pay taxes in this country. I think that is a pretty damn good reason to be honest


But the point is where do you stop? Companies fail, new companies innovate and grow and employ people. That's how the economy is supposed to work. A bit of fat needs to be trimmed every now and then.

As regards parties, people will vote in the next Tory government in spite of the Thatcher years, and in 10 years time people will vote in the Labour government having forgotten about Brown's reign.

Maybe it's time we give the Lib Dems a go?
banned#15
Kitten13
Lmao, I love the way people go on about the last Tory Government still.


People don't forget - it's not something to laugh about.

Erm, right we had a recession under the Tories, but Labour have led us into a depression, woohoo, go them. Everytime Labour have been in power for an extended period of time they have left us in a right mess.


So how exactly have Labour led the country into a recession? Do you even know the cause of it?


The motor industry is going to pot, and Gordon brown and his schmucks are letting it happen.


What Motor industry? What we had were closed when the Tories where in power!
#16
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Of course he is ( cough ) look at which school he and George Osborne went to.

Nuf said.

I wouldn't buy a used car off of either of them.:roll:

The only MP that I have any faith in is Vince Cable of the Lib Dems, he always talks a lot of common sense, shame about the party.


LOL, yeah. Shame about the party. Cable is one of the best and most shrewd politicians in the place.
Wanna talk about schooling? Look at James Purnell as an example ...

[SIZE="2"]Born within the City of London, he received most of his education in France before returning to study for his A Levels at the Royal Grammar School, a private school in Guildford[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]Wikipedia[/SIZE]

A bigger ponce with less understanding of public issues could you ever find? :roll:
This is the man that Mr Brown felt fit to trust with the poorest people in society? I'll neglect to get started with the expletives that describe this man. Peter Mandelson? I won't get started, as I can't describe in words the contempt I hold for him. The Labour party is an abomination of it's former self.
Yeah, I have to agree in a way. Schooling sometimes makes the man, but not always.
But Cameron has to take a stand against what Labour has been all about, otherwise he will have an angry british public baying for his blood if they think they have been lied to.
Cameron has no choice but to reform the stinking rotten carcass that is Westminster politics. The people will accept no less.
#17
Kitten13
I think that this is hitting the average brit pretty hard to be honest.

They reckon if Vauxhalls shuts down, around 25,000 jobs will be lost. Now thats not just from vauxhalls, thats job losses in other companys who deal with making parts and offering services to vauxhalls.

I'm using Vauxhalls as an example, as it is who my dad works for. He has been there for 34 years, and he tells me it has never ever been this bad before.

Our government should be stepping in to save this industry, but their not. In my eyes it just goes to show how useless they really are.


There were lots of working miners that got battered before losing their jobs on a region wide scale back then. Also interest rates that seriously got out of control and no help for home owners or businesses in any meaningful fashion. I am not suggesting that there is much good in the present situation but it really could be so much worse.
#18
Kitten13
I think that this is hitting the average brit pretty hard to be honest.

They reckon if Vauxhalls shuts down, around 25,000 jobs will be lost. Now thats not just from vauxhalls, thats job losses in other companys who deal with making parts and offering services to vauxhalls.

I'm using Vauxhalls as an example, as it is who my dad works for. He has been there for 34 years, and he tells me it has never ever been this bad before.

Our government should be stepping in to save this industry, but their not. In my eyes it just goes to show how useless they really are.


There will be change in the longterm in the car industry anyway. A car with no fuel to power it is just like a caravan on 4 wheels.
Maybe we will go from paying for a car parking space to paying site fees.
#19
Best way to hurt Labour is to actually vote for them, the longer they are in power the more they make themselves look like complete muppets!!!


Mike..
#20
Scribbles
I cant compare Cameron to Thatcher in any way. Cameron is a moderate progressive, Thatcher was a tyrant, as far right as Bush and Reagan. Cameron is much closer to 'old' Labour than New Labour are. The tories are a centre party nowadays, with Labour slightly to the right of them.


Cameron has done his best to make the conservatives appear much more electable. In a funny way the expenses scandal is also probably benefitting him as it will help him clear the ranks of some in the party who may cause him problems.
Did you know btw that many of the goods bought on expenses came from a department store owned by Lady Astor. Related to Cameron by marriage.
His Christmas pressie from that side of the family may be smaller this year. LOL :whistling:
#21
guv
Agreed. The hole in my backside would need to heal before I'd ever vote Tory.


+1
#22
FilthAndFurry
But the point is where do you stop? Companies fail, new companies innovate and grow and employ people. That's how the economy is supposed to work. A bit of fat needs to be trimmed every now and then.

As regards parties, people will vote in the next Tory government in spite of the Thatcher years, and in 10 years time people will vote in the Labour government having forgotten about Brown's reign.

Maybe it's time we give the Lib Dems a go?


I would be willing to vote Lib Dem if they seemed a viable party.

Sadly with most of the papers in the pocket of the Tories and Labour having a larger PR fund they (Lib Dems) simply don't have the resources to mount a good campaign. Would more than likely just pull voters from Labour and put the Tories in.
#23
Ungreat
I would be willing to vote Lib Dem if they seemed a viable party.

Sadly with most of the papers in the pocket of the Tories and Labour having a larger PR fund they (Lib Dems) simply don't have the resources to mount a good campaign. Would more than likely just pull voters from Labour and put the Tories in.


Seems really funny to hear so many say that but at the same time say things like they are prepared to waste a vote on BNP or UKIP. Many of the councils that they have taken control of 'seem' to show improvements on the previous ruling partys. Maybe its not such a wasted vote.
#24
I've been thinking about this and I think that Labour finishing third to Conservative and UKIP would be a cataclysmic result and would have to lead to a general election. There is no way on earth Gordon Brown would survive such a drubbing. His party will eat him alive.
So I think that it matters not one jot whether we vote Conservative or not. People will vote for them as a matter of course and they will win. I think that if any swing vote goes to UKIP, it smashes the current administration into a million little pieces.
banned#25
Scribbles
I've been thinking about this and I think that Labour finishing third to Conservative and UKIP would be a cataclysmic result and would have to lead to a general election. There is no way on earth Gordon Brown would survive such a drubbing. His party will eat him alive.
So I think that it matters not one jot whether we vote Conservative or not. People will vote for them as a matter of course and they will win. I think that if any swing vote goes to UKIP, it smashes the current administration into a million little pieces.


Ain't gonna happen.

Labour will get a good drubbing in local and a general election. But I can't see it ever being anything other than either of these 2 parties ruling the UK.
#26
Looks like we may be heading for a coalition government boys and girls.... :whistling:
#27
People are actually voting UKIP?

What, the conservatives not right wing enough that you want to elect a party willing to pull out of the EU?
#28
Ungreat
People are actually voting UKIP?

What, the conservatives not right wing enough that you want to elect a party willing to pull out of the EU?


I'll probably vote UKIP for eu and Con for locals. I'm personally sick of the way our laws are being remote controlled and dictated to us from Brussels.
#29
Scribbles
LOL, yeah. Shame about the party. Cable is one of the best and most shrewd politicians in the place.
Wanna talk about schooling? Look at James Purnell as an example ...

[SIZE="2"]Born within the City of London, he received most of his education in France before returning to study for his A Levels at the Royal Grammar School, a private school in Guildford[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]Wikipedia[/SIZE]

A bigger ponce with less understanding of public issues could you ever find? :roll:
This is the man that Mr Brown felt fit to trust with the poorest people in society? I'll neglect to get started with the expletives that describe this man. Peter Mandelson? I won't get started, as I can't describe in words the contempt I hold for him. The Labour party is an abomination of it's former self.
Yeah, I have to agree in a way. Schooling sometimes makes the man, but not always.
But Cameron has to take a stand against what Labour has been all about, otherwise he will have an angry british public baying for his blood if they think they have been lied to.
Cameron has no choice but to reform the stinking rotten carcass that is Westminster politics. The people will accept no less.


Well, that is one smarmy A*H* gone. Purnell quits! Must be the best news i've heard this year!

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