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Hiya, I'm due payment tomorrow and this is the first year I've been on them, my payment was reduced last week and not sure if I'll get the same or what? Also, some people said they got £70+ worki… Read More
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
Hiya,
I'm due payment tomorrow and this is the first year I've been on them, my payment was reduced last week and not sure if I'll get the same or what?

Also, some people said they got £70+ working tax credit in another thread and I wondered how? I don't work as I'm on incapacity benefit, and my partner earns about £17,000 a year before tax and we usually get £24.27 a week which is both working and child tax combined. Does this sound right?

Many thanks in advance,
Sam xxx
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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#1
possibly they have more children than you do x x
#2
ClarityofMind
possibly they have more children than you do x x


hadn't thought of that one lol. I've got one and one on the way :-D
#3
midjet666
hadn't thought of that one lol. I've got one and one on the way :-D


ohhhh congratulations! Hope everything goes well for you x x

You get increased payments of tax credits until the baby's first birthday too :D
#4
ClarityofMind
ohhhh congratulations! Hope everything goes well for you x x

You get increased payments of tax credits until the baby's first birthday too :D


That will be a great help!! :thumbsup: Just worried I won't get paid tomorrow as that's the week's shopping gone otherwise!!
#5
midjet666
That will be a great help!! :thumbsup: Just worried I won't get paid tomorrow as that's the week's shopping gone otherwise!!


awww I know, things are so tight at the moment for everyone. I have a pile of bills sitting beside me staring at me!! They will just have to wait!

Can't advise you on what you will receive tomorrow.. we get our payments monthly, last months was no different but I know some of the people who have been paid weekly had a lower payment. I hope ours aren't lower or the bills will be waiting even longer lol

Try and phone the helpline and see if they can tell you what you will be receiving if you're concerned x x
#6
ClarityofMind
awww I know, things are so tight at the moment for everyone. I have a pile of bills sitting beside me staring at me!! They will just have to wait!

Can't advise you on what you will receive tomorrow.. we get our payments monthly, last months was no different but I know some of the people who have been paid weekly had a lower payment. I hope ours aren't lower or the bills will be waiting even longer lol

Try and phone the helpline and see if they can tell you what you will be receiving if you're concerned x x


it's too early for my brain to work lol. I'll ring them now- seems the clever thing to do lol
#7
They wont change your payments without telling you first. x
#8
hunter82
They wont change your payments without telling you first. x


Just found out I'll be receiving £19.90 a week instead :cry:
#9
i wonder why its so much lower.... what a pain!
#10
yeah sounds about right as the working tax credit part would be fairly low with the amount your partners wages the bulk will be the child tax credit you can ask your IBPA net time you have an interview at the jobcentre and they can calculate it for you too
#11
That is low we earn more than that and recive more & we only have 1 child who is almost 3. Not working tax credits though weve never been entitled to those. Really feel for you **hugs** Im dreading what ours will be reduced to as well :(
Although just read you also receive incapacity benefit so it probably is about right..
#12
Have you seen this website? [url]www.entitledto.co.uk[/url] it isnt definately right but will give you a rough idea of what you are entitled to
#13
our tax credits have been reduced by nearly £30 per week, not had any paperwork - will be phoning them today! Anybody have a telephone number handy before I start hunting for it !!!

Thanks
#14
buzylizzie
our tax credits have been reduced by nearly £30 per week, not had any paperwork - will be phoning them today! Anybody have a telephone number handy before I start hunting for it !!!

Thanks


phone number should be on your award papers hon x x
#15
ClarityofMind
phone number should be on your award papers hon x x


Thanks - I will just need to hunt them out !!
#16
buzylizzie
Thanks - I will just need to hunt them out !!


go on saynoto0870.com, I got an 028 number to ring them on.
#17
midjet666
Just found out I'll be receiving £19.90 a week instead :cry:


in ur orig post , u say it's reduced , so u should of expected less than the £24 ,

That is low we earn more than that and recive more & we only have 1 child who is almost 3. Not working tax credits though weve never been entitled to those. Really feel for you **hugs** Im dreading what ours will be reduced to as well :(
Although just read you also receive incapacity benefit so it probably is about right..



i bet urs is child tax credit , i think the op is just talking about wtc, £20 pw is about right for someone on that amount of money,
#18
nikkit72
in ur orig post , u say it's reduced , so u should of expected less than the £24 ,




i bet urs is child tax credit , i think the op is just talking about wtc, £20 pw is about right for someone on that amount of money,


There was a thread on here warning that it'd be reduced last week as it was the end of the tax year, but I didn't think I'd lose nearly £20 a month.
#19
vinylandtrinkets
OP have you been over paid?? this happened to us a few years ago now and it took hundreds of hours on the phone, huge phone bills and the help of out local MP to sort out the mess, The tax credit people messed up our account when i phoned to update them when i left work, some bright spark advisor i spoke to entered the wrong information and after 2 years they said we owed them £22k yes thats right. infact after all the investigating we owed them around £2k but that was wiped out as they proved it was their error as they still had all the telephone call recordings with me telling them of the changes and our MP complaining about the mistakes.
the cheeky sods even sent me a cheque for £5.00 to cover the cost of the phone calls! i sent it back they needed it more then i did.
So every time i call them now i always ask if the call is recorded just in case, i think they are now

I really hope you get it all sorted out and good luck, if you think the money is wrong go to the CAB and ask them to look into it.


Omw that is shocking! How stressfull that must have been. The last award they sent us they said they had overpaid by 1k but we have always told them of any changes so each time we dispute it to say its their mistake not ours but we dont seem to be getting anywhere. So glad you got it sorted though what a relief that must have been
banned#20
every time you are awarded tax credits you are sent an itemised work out of how this has been worked out, this is down to the claimant to check if it is right, its amazing how quick people notice an underpayment, but never notice an over one
#21
sassie
every time you are awarded tax credits you are sent an itemised work out of how this has been worked out, this is down to the claimant to check if it is right, its amazing how quick people notice an underpayment, but never notice an over one


Well usually if the payment's gone down in the bank then they'll question why and it's noticed that way, but if you receive payments from the beginning and you just accept what's being paid to you as correct as they're the ones doing the working out, so when you get a letter saying you've been overpaid you wonder how as they've worked it out on the information you've given (unless some people have given false information?!) then usually it's their mistake and not the person receiving it.
banned#22
midjet666
Well usually if the payment's gone down in the bank then they'll question why and it's noticed that way, but if you receive payments from the beginning and you just accept what's being paid to you as correct as they're the ones doing the working out, so when you get a letter saying you've been overpaid you wonder how as they've worked it out on the information you've given (unless some people have given false information?!) then usually it's their mistake and not the person receiving it.


its not really about blame, if you end up with £10.000 in your bank, doesnt mean your entitled to spend it, as said when you get awarded they send you the workings out and im sure everyone checks, but only does something about it when they are underpaid, strange that eh
#23
sassie
its not really about blame, if you end up with £10.000 in your bank, doesnt mean your entitled to spend it, as said when you get awarded they send you the workings out and im sure everyone checks, but only does something about it when they are underpaid, strange that eh


Obviously you've never been in the middle of a payment c*ck up. My mom was overpaid, she was a single mother and was over-paid about £15,000, but the mistake was from the beginning from their end, it wasn't added on top of what's on the paper, it was worked out wrong from the beginning. So mom was spending money that she had already been told she was entitled to, not money she thought was being paid extra as she genuinely didn't have a clue. If you ask others, they will more than likely say the exact same thing about their over-payment.
banned#24
midjet666
Obviously you've never been in the middle of a payment c*ck up. My mom was overpaid, she was a single mother and was over-paid about £15,000, but the mistake was from the beginning from their end, it wasn't added on top of what's on the paper, it was worked out wrong from the beginning. So mom was spending money that she had already been told she was entitled to, not money she thought was being paid extra as she genuinely didn't have a clue. If you ask others, they will more than likely say the exact same thing about their over-payment.


so your mum never bothered to check? also if it was added ontop of what was said on the paper then she would have known she wasnt entitled to it, and yes i know the tax credits have made a balls up most peoples claims, but what i am saying is most people know this. and claiming ignorance doesnt mean its ok to keep
#25
Often from the start the mistakes are the amounts for each entitlement are wrong with over payments so the brakedown down is correct but amounts are wrong and there is no way the public could know, they had major issues with the software they used most over payments are not recognisible by the claimant. My job involved helping people with claims and over payments and it's not as cut and dried as you make it sound Sassie, also delt with claimants who did notice an over payment and took months to get it right and paid back it's just the fact that you don't hear about them as much
#26
sassie
so your mum never bothered to check? also if it was added ontop of what was said on the paper then she would have known she wasnt entitled to it, and yes i know the tax credits have made a balls up most peoples claims, but what i am saying is most people know this. and claiming ignorance doesnt mean its ok to keep


it doesn't show you how they work itout, even top mathematicians didn't understand their calculations, so how was my mom supposed to work out what the correct amount she's entitled to? She checked the paperwork, they said you're being paid amount A and she was paid amount A, it was their mistake. I can't wait until it's your turn Sassie and you realise that people aren't claiming ignorance, it's that the system is flawed!!
banned#27
dmissy13
Often from the start the mistakes are the amounts for each entitlement are wrong with over payments so the brakedown down is correct but amounts are wrong and there is no way the public could know, they had major issues with the software they used most over payments are not recognisible by the claimant. My job involved helping people with claims and over payments and it's not as cut and dried as you make it sound Sassie, also delt with claimants who did notice an over payment and took months to get it right and paid back it's just the fact that you don't hear about them as much


I never said it clear cut for all, but the majority do check and do know what they are entitled to, jusrt because they dont declare this doesnt mean they dont know, i also know people who where told not to worry and kept getting intouch to pay it back and ended up with nothing the following year, but thankfully they put the over payments away for the following year, yes not everyone knows, but alot more do, they just make out dumb in the hope of keeping it
banned#28
midjet666
it doesn't show you how they work itout, even top mathematicians didn't understand their calculations, so how was my mom supposed to work out what the correct amount she's entitled to? She checked the paperwork, they said you're being paid amount A and she was paid amount A, it was their mistake. I can't wait until it's your turn Sassie and you realise that people aren't claiming ignorance, it's that the system is flawed!!



No i cant either, could do with an extra 15.000 into my bank account, thats over 1.000 per month, yeah would be well chuffed
#29
They messed ours up as well at one point. Told them about a change of circumstances on phone and filled out the form they sent to me. The person on the phone had imputed the wrong year on the computer for the change and I had put the right year on the form. They used the info imputed from the phone call, issued a cheque for the amount that I should have been getting as far as they were concerned from the date they used, then demanded the 'overpayment ' for that time back which was the amount I should have been getting anyway. Confused? I was. As they classed as their fault they dropped the demand for payment. Nice for us but am aware that if that is happening all over the country that is one hell of alot of taxpayers money.
banned#30
the tax credits office should be dumped in the middle of the sea along with the CSA office, neither could organise a pee up in a brewery
#31
sassie
No i cant either, could do with an extra 15.000 into my bank account, thats over 1.000 per month, yeah would be well chuffed


it wasn't over a year, it was over about 6 or 7 years, it didn't even help us live comfortably. We ended up wracking £20,000 worth of debts from buying shopping and paying bills- no going partying or anything, only treat I had was my prom dress which was £200 on the credit card and that was a treat because I'd had cancer and I'd got through it.

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